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Wedding Woes

Advice for the Disheveled

Hi brides/brides-to-be/community members :)

My wonderful fiance proposed to me back in May of this year, and we decided on a wedding date of February 20th 2016! It's coming up fast, and I have spent the last 3 months planning meticulously to make sure we are on track to have the best wedding possible. My parents, being traditional, offered to pay for our wedding, which has been absolutely wonderful. However, I'm starting to go down a slippery slope of stress and anxiety during a time that should be one of the happiest times of my life. 

To provide you the cliff notes to my already existing saga, my brother proposed to his fiancee last October. Her mom is alive and well, but cannot afford to help her daughter pay for anything, so she doesn't feel comfortable being involved in the planning process. They also have decided on a destination wedding (3+ hours away from their home), but cannot afford to make the drive even just once every few months to meet with vendors. They are getting married in the same city I am getting married in (which I also live in) one month after I get married. Enter my mom. My mom has explained to me that she now has to be my future sister-in-law's mom, otherwise their wedding would never happen because my brother and S-I-L are completely unorganized. On top of my mom attending wedding extravaganzas, meeting with the photographer, baker, and the venue in their place, they have requested she drive four hours to their home with cake samples for them to try to make sure it's to their standards. 

I recently went wedding dress shopping (and found one! :-D ) and my mom spent half of the day texting my future S-I-L because she was having a meltdown of some sort. Her meltdowns happen often because she was the 5th child of 5, and creates a scene to ensure she's important and loved. Those are my mom's words, not mine. My mom explained to me she had to text her all day because 'she needs to find them a DJ for their wedding.' My mom has also canceled on our cake tasting because she has to do something else for them even though I planned months in advance to make sure she was open. She constantly compliments me on my organization during the planning process, and compares my abundant skills to the lack of skills of my brother and S-I-L. 

She is planning so much for them because she's now her mom. She has completely forgotten that she has one biological daughter, who is only going to go through this wonderful process once. I feel so pushed aside, and to be perfectly honest, I'm completely disheveled right now. My mom and I had an okay relationship growing up, and our relationship has really blossomed since I've left the house and become an adult of my own. 

I am aware that I need to talk to her, however, my mom is an expert of holding things over others' heads. This is why our relationship wasn't a strong when I was living under their roof. In other words, she can be very passive aggressive and knows how to give a strong cold shoulder. So, I'm lost. I really miss my mom. I feel cheated from a huge moment in my life that I always dreamed of experiencing with her. 

Do I talk to her and risk her rearranging some plans for her to be a little more available to me, but know that she'll be emotionally unavailable to me because she won't like that I'm calling her out, per say? Or, do I keep moving forward and lean on other lines of support (i.e. MOH, groom's mom, bridesmaids, friends)? Am I acting selfishly that I want more time with my mom even though I'm completely capable of planning and executing that perfect wedding without her input? 

Re: Advice for the Disheveled

  • You've got a lot going on - first the perception that FSIL is stealing your thunder and second that you want your Mom to be your MOM and be excited/involved about things.

    1) Yes, open up the lines of communication and if she gets passive-aggressive, that's o.k. because at the end of the day, this is your wedding to plan, not hers. Having communicated that "Mom, I really want you involved in the process with me too.  I don't mind if the appointments are "two for one" but I get the vibe you're more excited about Bro's wedding than mine whether that's the case or not and it's bumming me out when you cancel plans at the last minute because it makes it harder to reschedule meetings with some really great vendors  because they presume I'm a flaky bride.  If we make an appointment on your schedule and you have to cancel, I'm going to still be meeting with the vendors to get this process wrapped up so FI & I can focus on planning the marriage instead"

    2) If she's paying, she gets a say, if you offer the opportunity and schedule with her a time to meet with a vendor and she suddenly flakes out, you keep the appointment and meet with the vendor and make the decisions that need to be made with or without her.  For example: You schedule a cake tasting to fit your Mom's schedule, two days before she determines that she NEEDS to do something for FSIL & Bro instead because it can't wait, keep the tasting, go with FI or your MOH and if you love the cake, it fits your budget/image of what you want, book and be done with it so you aren't stressed about the detail. 

    3) Let your Mom be excited for your brother too..  At least they aren't planning a dual-wedding!  Remember that at the end of the day there is no one else besides your FI who is as excited as you are about your wedding.  Even though his wedding is a month after yours it's not as though he's going to have the same cake, food, flowers, etc. ordered even if you use 100% the same vendors.  Your day is going to be lovely and will reflect the energy you bring to the day - Organized and relaxed..  Is it a bit sibling rivalry "Tommy Smother Syndrome" (i.e. "Mom likes him better"), maybe, but really, you can only control yourself and your perceptions, change them to relish the time together with your Mom and relax a bit when she does things for your Brother or FSIL because it's ultimately her time/money to choose what to do with. 

    4) I get where it can be maddening where FSIL is getting more of your Mom than you are.  Roll with it because you never know what the situation/dynamic going on there is. 

    5) The whole driving four hours to take Bro/FSIL cake samples fits into the "YGTBFKM" factor - she isn't REALLY going to do that right?!?!? 

  • Hi brides/brides-to-be/community members :)

    My wonderful fiance proposed to me back in May of this year, and we decided on a wedding date of February 20th 2016! It's coming up fast, and I have spent the last 3 months planning meticulously to make sure we are on track to have the best wedding possible. My parents, being traditional, offered to pay for our wedding, which has been absolutely wonderful. However, I'm starting to go down a slippery slope of stress and anxiety during a time that should be one of the happiest times of my life. 

    To provide you the cliff notes to my already existing saga, my brother proposed to his fiancee last October. Her mom is alive and well, but cannot afford to help her daughter pay for anything, so she doesn't feel comfortable being involved in the planning process. They also have decided on a destination wedding (3+ hours away from their home), but cannot afford to make the drive even just once every few months to meet with vendors. They are getting married in the same city I am getting married in (which I also live in) one month after I get married. Enter my mom. My mom has explained to me that she now has to be my future sister-in-law's mom, otherwise their wedding would never happen because my brother and S-I-L are completely unorganized.Your mother doesn't HAVE to do anything, she is choosing to. On top of my mom attending wedding extravaganzas, meeting with the photographer, baker, and the venue in their place, they have requested she drive four hours to their home with cake samples for them to try to make sure it's to their standards. Your mom can say no. But non of this is your problem, its your moms.

    I recently went wedding dress shopping (and found one! :-D ) and my mom spent half of the day texting my future S-I-L because she was having a meltdown of some sort. Her meltdowns happen often because she was the 5th child of 5, and creates a scene to ensure she's important and loved. Those are my mom's words, not mine. My mom explained to me she had to text her all day because 'she needs to find them a DJ for their wedding.' My mom has also canceled on our cake tasting because she has to do something else for them even though I planned months in advance to make sure she was open.You can do a cake tasting with just you and FI.  She constantly compliments me on my organization during the planning process, and compares my abundant skills to the lack of skills of my brother and S-I-L. 

    She is planning so much for them because she's now her mom. She has completely forgotten that she has one biological daughter, who is only going to go through this wonderful process once. I feel so pushed aside, and to be perfectly honest, I'm completely disheveled right now. My mom and I had an okay relationship growing up, and our relationship has really blossomed since I've left the house and become an adult of my own. Greatest piece of advice I've ever received- no one is going to be as excited for your wedding as you and your FI. Where is he in all of this? I haven't seen you mention him yet, is he being supportive and helping with the planning?

    I am aware that I need to talk to her, however, my mom is an expert of holding things over others' heads. This is why our relationship wasn't a strong when I was living under their roof. In other words, she can be very passive aggressive and knows how to give a strong cold shoulder. So, I'm lost. I really miss my mom. I feel cheated from a huge moment in my life that I always dreamed of experiencing with her. 

    Do I talk to her and risk her rearranging some plans for her to be a little more available to me, but know that she'll be emotionally unavailable to me because she won't like that I'm calling her out, per say? Or, do I keep moving forward and lean on other lines of support LEAN ON YOUR FI- he is going to be your husband(i.e. MOH, groom's mom, bridesmaids, friends)? Am I acting selfishly that I want more time with my mom even though I'm completely capable of planning and executing that perfect wedding without her input? 
    You are not acting selfishly, but I think you need to manage your expectations of what is going on. Your mom can be there for special events, but unless she is strictly forbidding you from going without her because she is paying. I agree with PP that you should approach this with her differently. 

    Start leaning on your FI for help during this. They are the person you have chosen to spend your life with. 
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  • Do you understand that there are also grooms involved in this process?
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  • CMGragainCMGragain member
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    CN:  Bride is unhappy that her Mom is paying more attention to her brother's wedding than hers.  Mom and Dad are paying for bride's wedding.

    Your Mom will not change into a different person just because you are planning a wedding.  Lots of brides have distant mothers.  I was one.  I planned my own wedding amid a lot of family fighting, and I survived.
    Stop worrying about what you think your mother should do.  Accept her as she is.  Your brother's wedding has nothing to do with yours.
    You have a fiance who might be of help.  Have you asked him?  Don't expect your bridesmaids to help you plan your wedding.  That isn't one of their jobs.

    Do you know what "disheveled" means?  I don't think you do.
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  • I actually don't think you're being too terrible, I think you're just focusing on the wrong thing.  Just take the wedding stuff out of this.  If mom were canceling on a bunch of stuff to be with someone else, you'd be pretty upset.  If you were with someone for a planned anything and they spent half of it texting someone else, you'd be pretty upset.  And I think that's justified; one or two times is understandable but after that your graciousness in understanding is being taken advantage of.

    Mom sounds like, for better or worse, she's a project person.  You've got yourself together, so your project isn't as interesting as the "falling apart and needs her all the time" project.

    Take anything about the wedding out of it and SIL out of it.  Approach her with, "I really feel like you're not particularly interested in me right now and that hurts my feelings.  Can we set some ground rules or expectations that when we're together, we're together?"  All you can do is be prepared for the consequences which in all reality is about the same level of hurt feelings you have no, so you have nothing to lose.  

    If she continues to flake on wedding planning, start planning with FI and yourself only.  It won't be what you've imagined re: process, but that doesn't mean it can still be great and fun and something else.  Keep within whatever budget or agreement you had set out with your parents, call dad if you need immediate permission with something, etc.  If she gets upset, explain that you had to move forward and she wasn't available.
  • First and foremost, your mother is not your FSILs mom now. She is the MOG and is getting involved because she feels she needs to. That's her decision, her choice. TBH your mom sounds a little like she has a superwoman complex and needs to save everything and that's okay. In either case you need to accept the reality of the situation: your wedding is yours [and FIs] to plan. If and when others, be it your mom, MOH FMIL, your cat, choose to become involved, consider that a bonus and enjoy doing whatever it is with them and appreciate that they love you enough to pitch in.

    Don't let your expectations of others ruin your experience. You only get to be engaged once, you only get to plan one wedding. Enjoy it!
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  • Hi again, 

    I posted this only in an attempt to vent and for it all to fall on deaf ears. I'm not quite sure who spends their day on wedding boards to patronize and belittle, but that's your prerogative. I am aware of the situation, and yes I am very knowledgeable about leaning on my wonderful fiance. He has been fantastic during this process. This has been my first experience without maternal support from any end, and yes, that has left me feeling quite disorganized, uprooted, and YES disheveled :) There's no need to pick apart or scrutinize others for any level of discomfort they may be going through. I'm regretful that I posted on here after reading the responses, but to each their own. I'm lucky for the life I live, spending my days with the most wonderful man to walk this earth. This has all been exceptionally trivial to reach out to gain some insight as to how others may have dealt with an absent mother during this process. I have no desire to defend or retaliate, nor will I pass judgement of your words.  

    I wish all the wonderful brides the very best in their planning and your futures. 
  • You posted this so that it would fall on deaf ears? That's what a journal is for. Everyone here took time out of their lives to try and help you. You're welcome.

    Look, your mom has CHOSEN to do these things for your SIL and your brother. I think if your broach the subject with her, you leave the wedding out of it. Tell her you feel disrespected when she spends your time together texting and on the phone with other people.
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  • Interesting that the title of your post is asking for advice, but you just came here to vent and get no replies.
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    Interesting that the title of your post is asking for advice, but you just came here to vent and get no replies.

    Actually with the follow-up it's suppose to just be an AW...

  • side question:

    all these knotties with screennames like knottie24601 or knottie314159265358979323846:

    how do they remember these names, and what happens when a bunch of them start replying to each other? i mean, is it just "hey @squarerootof2, i just want to say" or "yo @euler's constant -- YOU DON'T KNOW ME"?
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  • Hi again, 

    I posted this only in an attempt to vent and for it all to fall on deaf ears. I'm not quite sure who spends their day on wedding boards to patronize and belittle, but that's your prerogative. I am aware of the situation, and yes I am very knowledgeable about leaning on my wonderful fiance. He has been fantastic during this process. This has been my first experience without maternal support from any end, and yes, that has left me feeling quite disorganized, uprooted, and YES disheveled :) There's no need to pick apart or scrutinize others for any level of discomfort they may be going through. I'm regretful that I posted on here after reading the responses, but to each their own. I'm lucky for the life I live, spending my days with the most wonderful man to walk this earth. This has all been exceptionally trivial to reach out to gain some insight as to how others may have dealt with an absent mother during this process. I have no desire to defend or retaliate, nor will I pass judgement of your words.  

    I wish all the wonderful brides the very best in their planning and your futures. 
    She stole TxFiona's man?
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