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delicate situation

Hi everyone. I'm a long time lurker and I never post on these boards, but I'm concerned for a family member and I am not sure what to do about it. This might be a bit long, sorry. I feel kind of terrible posting about this on the internet but there is no one neutral to whom I can talk to about it. 
  Is about my cousin and her husband. They have been together since they were teenagers and married for a long time, I love them both and I am extremely close to both of them. I talk to her at least four times a week, sometimes for hours, even though she leaves in another state. They have four small children together.  
   Their relationship has always been very complicated. They have always fought a lot, almost daily, but that has been since they started; so is nothing new for everyone that knows them.
   However, for the last few years, I have noticed that he has gotten increasingly inappropriate and nasty with my cousin. Name calling in a very demeaning way, constant guilt trips and outbursts of anger towards her, and it feels like she is always walking on egg shells so he won't  go off. Before she used to talk back to him, but now it seems that she just shuts up and takes it (I'm thinking for the kids).
   Recently they came to visit and stayed at my house for a week with her mom, which is my aunt (she lives with them). During that time he made my cousin cry two or three times. I only noticed because he starts telling her off in front of me and her mom, and the kids. Then they locked themselves in the room and were fighting for a long time, this happened several times during their stay. After she came out I saw she had been crying, another time I saw her in the bathroom when I entered by mistake. This was all because she lost a very valuable object that he had given her as a gift, he created such a situation about it that it kind of ruined the last two days of their visit. 
   This probably isn't any of my business, is their marriage and I should stay out of it. However I feel so bad for her, I love her and hate to see how he treats her. I feel strongly that he is manipulating her, and psychologically abusing her. (I couldn't control myself and kind of told her this, and that she should not allow him to talk to her like that, especially in front of others and the kids. I realize I might have overstepped some boundaries there) She told me she was just trying to keep the peace because she didn't want to create a bigger scene. I feel terrible because I don't know if I am just being more horrible to her by bringing it up. 
  My cousins' self-esteem is so incredibly low, and he keeps putting her down constantly, telling her she can't do anything right. She actually repeats this about herself and says is her fault that he gets like that, because she can't do anything right and is always causing him to get irritated. I believe she has internalized it.
  He continues being the nicest to everyone else (including me) while talking to her like that, and even tries to get us to side with him when putting her down (which of course we don't do).
   Even though we are close and continue speaking a lot, she has not talked to me about what happened after they left. She vented to me for a bit after all the ordeal of the fight had happened and he was inside their room (which is when I told her what I thought), but we didn't have time to talk about it without him around. I told her I believed his actions were manipulative and abusive and they should at least seek professional help, but I think she won't do it. She looks so tired of it, but doesn't know what to do about it, especially with the kids. I don't think he would ever agree to go to a professional since he is one of those people who think that they can't do anything wrong and has a serious superiority complex. 
  Again, I fully understand I may have gotten involved in this way more than I should have, but I don't know what to do. Should just do nothing? Just be there for her in hopes she realizes she does not deserve this? Should I try to keep talking to my cousin about it, even is she doesn't brings it up? Should I try to say something to him (I am not sure how this would go and I really do not want to cause her more trouble) He and I also talk a lot, and he talks to me about a lot of things, but we have already had some serious arguments due to his personality and the way he is. 
Anyways, I might be way out of place with this and I apologize if you feel like I should stop getting my nose in my cousin's marriage, but I really want her to be happy and to stop being treated like that. 
  

Re: delicate situation

  • Everything LondonLisa said.  I have known a couple women in psychologically abusive relationships.  They all had groups of friends supporting them and telling them they felt concerned for their wellbeing, and it was heart-breaking to see them continue in their relationships.  For one friend, it just took time--no matter what we did or said, she would not give up on him.  Then one day he did something heinous, and it finally clicked in her head that what he was doing wasn't okay, and she was done with him for good.  She wasn't married to him, though, and she didn't have kids with him--I know that can make it so much harder for an abused person to get out/get help.  Try googling "family crisis resources" or "domestic violence resources"--that seems to work for Maine, at least.  I know we have shelters specifically for women and children that need to escape abusive situations.  They're safe and secure, and they won't unlock the doors for anyone until their identity is verified (to prevent spousal retaliation).  
  • She's not just a cousin, she's your friend and your concerned for her.

    I think it's important for her to have someone in her corner, so you definitely want to keep the lines open. However, as you've already stated she's been manipulated and believes everything her husband has told her about her so getting her to see the other side will be tough. I agree with PP, find a group that specializes in spousal abuse and learn ways you can help.
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  • I agree with PP's, and particularly agree with @kmmssg's comment that your cousin will be the one to pay if you talk to him about it.

    It's clear that this is an abusive situation. My father treated my mom like this for years and years, but only behind closed doors with no witnesses other than me and my brother. They are divorced now, and she is still battling with the lies he fed her for all of those years about her worth.

    Your cousin needs to get professional help. Maybe you can help her out by doing the research for her and presenting her with a couple of therapists in her area. She may not know where to begin, and she may be scared to do the research on her own.

  • I think this was made your business when your cousin's H picked these fights in front of you and in your house.  You definitely need to keep the lines of communication open between you and your cousin.  As PP said, contact spouse abuse networks to find the best way to help your cousin.
  • @thefanciestbeckler has a good idea with researching therapists to give to her. Make sure if you talk to the therapist you let them know she is in an abusive relationship. I've had a few where we have been counseling and the abusive partner shows up at the facility, its just nice to have a heads up so there can be a plan in case of that situation. We've had clients park at the grocery store a block away and make a getaway while the partner is tied up with the front desk which was helpful for them still being in that situation- but if we didn't know before hand we wouldn't have been able to come up with a plan that helped everyone be comfortable in that situation. 
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  • This page has a lot of tips for friends of people in abusive relationships: http://www.bandbacktogether.com/how-to-help-friend-abusive-relationship/

    It's important to not approach your cousin's husband about this, but to just keep being there for her and letting her know you are always available to talk (which it seems like you already are)! Her self-esteem is low because he is intentionally breaking it down. Abusers want their victims to feel small and alone, so he may take things to the next level and try to cut her off from friends/family outside of him.

    Good luck to you both.
  •    Hi everyone,  thank you so much for all the advise. Thanks mollybarker11 for the helpful link, I have been reading through the website and has been highly educational. I would like to send it to my cousin, but I'm not sure how to address it, since she hasn't talked to me about this situation anymore. I am not sure how to start the conversation but I will definitely try. I am afraid that she will get defensive or angry. The more I think about it, the more red flags I see.      For example, she doesn't even has a personal email, they 'share' one that he has full access to (I have pointed out to her how ridiculous this is before). So I can't even send this to her without him seeing it.
         Another red flag from the site is he controls all the money, anything she purchases (even a soft drink) she has to tell him about it, or he questions her. He is constantly making her feel like she should not spend money on her own, except when he 'allows her', like a reward when he is feeling 'nice'.
     He, of course, does not have to tell her or explain when he spends money. If she even asks, it leads to a fight. 

       Everytime she is on the phone with me and he is present, he starts getting irritated, telling her to hang up, or makes up stuff that she is 'supposed to be doing' instead of talking on the phone. 
     I guess what is most heart breaking is the fact that they have kids together, and that he appeared to be a decent person years ago. He has been in our family since I was a teen, they have been together for a really long time. Its so horrible to see him doing this to her. Her mom cannot do anything since she is completely dependent on them, she is older and lives in their house. Also my cousin only works part time, he is the main one working, so I'm guessing this is also another factor preventing her from leaving him. My heart breaks for her, I just want her to be happy, the more I think about it, the more messed up this seems. I feel she has been miserable for years now. 
  • @knottier When I was looking for resources for victims' friends I was on a few sites meant for victims. One in particular mentioned that internet history could me monitored, so that's another thing abusers may do to control & trap their victims. She might not feel comfortable looking into it or even with talking to you about it on the phone because he's always around watching her. I don't want to seem paranoid, but if she has an individual facebook account for example, he probably knows her password and checks her messages.

    I understand wanting to tell her "This is wrong and you need to get out!" but I think you're right to worry that she'll get defensive. Telling her that before she's ready to hear it may push her away. If possible, try to plan a regular get-together outside of the home. Maybe at a cafe, gym, or a craft class or something. That way you have a chance to talk in a place he doesn't have power and she may feel more inclined to open up about their relationship. As frustrating and as heartbreaking as it is for you, I think she needs to be the one to start the conversation.
  • As mollybarker suggests, try to get her away from her H to talk to cousin.  Is there any guise you can put up to invite your cousin for a girls' weekend or something without him?  My friends family has a weekend away with all the females over 18 each year.  Could something like that be planned?  Even if she has to bring the kids with her?  Your latest email breaks my heart for your cousin as no person should have to live that way.
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