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Doggie Doo Happens -- But Get It Off My Lawn

We recently moved into a house in a suburb that feels like a small town. We like the house, but I’m still not sure about leaving the city. My children love our front yard, and we play out there nearly every day. My children are young, 4 and 1 years old, and the back yard is a hill that is difficult to negotiate for my littlest. So if we are playing outside, it has to be in the front yard. The problem is I (or my children) find dog crap in my yard all the time. We don’t have pets, but as far as I can tell, almost everyone else on our street does. I’ve seen at least four different dogs in my yard at various times as well as a few cats. I’m not monitoring my yard constantly or interested in starting that but I don’t want other people’s pets using my yard as a toilet. It’s not just a pain to clean up, but it is unsanitary, and my kids are still at the stage where they have to touch everything. Each time I’m scooping up poop or washing it off a child’s shoe, I fantasize about visiting my neighbors one by one and yelling at them to come pick up after their dogs. I don’t really want to do that because I’d like to have a friendly relationship with my neighbors. But what do I do? Is it normal to just let your dog roam around and leave waste wherever it wants, or did I pick the wrong street to buy a house on?
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Re: Doggie Doo Happens -- But Get It Off My Lawn

  • If you see the dog roaming without an owner frequently, call animal control.

    If you see the owner with the dog and he's pooping on the lawn, have a conversation with the owner. 
  • Put one of those short white picket fences up, that you just plop in the ground. Theyre cute, and most people will get the message.
  • I think any kind of fence/barrier, even if it is just a trellis around the front yard.  Plus "no dog" signs.  Wouldn't be rude to any particular person and would definitely get the message across.

    People who don't pick up after their pets are sh***y human beings (pun intended).  There's a guy who lives in the block perpendicular to mine that constantly walks his PIT BULL...off leash...and lets it s**t wherever it wants without ever picking it up.  I've called to him about it.  I've heard other neighbors call to him about it.  But he's a thoroughly lousy human being (for other reasons also) and doesn't care in the slightest.

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  • I think any kind of fence/barrier, even if it is just a trellis around the front yard.  Plus "no dog" signs.  Wouldn't be rude to any particular person and would definitely get the message across.

    People who don't pick up after their pets are sh***y human beings (pun intended).  There's a guy who lives in the block perpendicular to mine that constantly walks his PIT BULL...off leash...and lets it s**t wherever it wants without ever picking it up.  I've called to him about it.  I've heard other neighbors call to him about it.  But he's a thoroughly lousy human being (for other reasons also) and doesn't care in the slightest.



    Rake it up into a bag and dump it on his porch. Get your other neighbors to do the same.


  • I think any kind of fence/barrier, even if it is just a trellis around the front yard.  Plus "no dog" signs.  Wouldn't be rude to any particular person and would definitely get the message across.

    People who don't pick up after their pets are sh***y human beings (pun intended).  There's a guy who lives in the block perpendicular to mine that constantly walks his PIT BULL...off leash...and lets it s**t wherever it wants without ever picking it up.  I've called to him about it.  I've heard other neighbors call to him about it.  But he's a thoroughly lousy human being (for other reasons also) and doesn't care in the slightest.



    Unless you're neighbor's lousy enough to be abusing the PIT BULL, the PIT BULL is probably the sweetest dog.  PIT BULLs are very trainable, and if it's good off-leash, that's awesome.  Obviously, the PIT BULL hasn't been trained to stay off people's properties, but that's not a PIT BULL issue, it's a lousy human issue.

    I'd be calling the cops on this guy, btw.  I don't know about where you are, but in NJ, the fines get pretty hefty for not curbing your dog.
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  • LD1970 said:





    I think any kind of fence/barrier, even if it is just a trellis around the front yard.  Plus "no dog" signs.  Wouldn't be rude to any particular person and would definitely get the message across.

    People who don't pick up after their pets are sh***y human beings (pun intended).  There's a guy who lives in the block perpendicular to mine that constantly walks his PIT BULL...off leash...and lets it s**t wherever it wants without ever picking it up.  I've called to him about it.  I've heard other neighbors call to him about it.  But he's a thoroughly lousy human being (for other reasons also) and doesn't care in the slightest.





    Unless you're neighbor's lousy enough to be abusing the PIT BULL, the PIT BULL is probably the sweetest dog.  PIT BULLs are very trainable, and if it's good off-leash, that's awesome.  Obviously, the PIT BULL hasn't been trained to stay off people's properties, but that's not a PIT BULL issue, it's a lousy human issue.

    I'd be calling the cops on this guy, btw.  I don't know about where you are, but in NJ, the fines get pretty hefty for not curbing your dog.



    I don't necessarily have anything against pit bulls.  But NO dog should be unleashed.  Period.  It's unsafe for the dog and its potentially unsafe for other animals and for people.

    Pit bulls don't bite any more often than most other breeds of dogs but, when they do, they tend to cause more damage because of their jaw structure.  76% of dog bite fatalities in the U.S. from 1982 to 2014 were caused by a pit bull or a Rottweiler.  Sorrynotsorry.  Those breeds of dogs, or any large breed of dog that could cause serious harm, especially need to be on leashes when in public, AT ALL TIMES.

    Dogs are animals and not always predictable!  Even the sweetest dog can have a bad day.  Or feel provoked, even if it is for no reason.

    On the other side of the size coin, I also have a neighbor who walks his three Chihuahuas without a leash.  Though he at least picks up after them.  That pisses me off also.  Especially because they're aggressive.  I previously had a tenant next door who had a 90 lb. Black Lab.  One of those Chihuahuas came within inches of losing its life because it ran up to that dog barking aggressively.  The Lab...who wasn't that well mannered of a dog...lunged for it but, because the Lab was on a leash, my tenant was able to keep it from attacking that little dog.

    Bottom line, I don't want to be around unleashed dogs and I definitely don't want my own dog around unleashed dogs.  Even a Chihuahua bite can be a doctor's visit and get infected.  I mean, the doo-doo is just really annoying, but allowing one's dog to walk without a leash...whatever breed of dog it is...is potentially putting somebody else's health or somebody else's pet at risk.  It's against the law in most jurisdictions and it is a huge, selfish, jerk move.  For absolutely no reason.

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  • ellamberellamber member
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    LD1970 said:











    I think any kind of fence/barrier, even if it is just a trellis around the front yard.  Plus "no dog" signs.  Wouldn't be rude to any particular person and would definitely get the message across.

    People who don't pick up after their pets are sh***y human beings (pun intended).  There's a guy who lives in the block perpendicular to mine that constantly walks his PIT BULL...off leash...and lets it s**t wherever it wants without ever picking it up.  I've called to him about it.  I've heard other neighbors call to him about it.  But he's a thoroughly lousy human being (for other reasons also) and doesn't care in the slightest.









    Unless you're neighbor's lousy enough to be abusing the PIT BULL, the PIT BULL is probably the sweetest dog.  PIT BULLs are very trainable, and if it's good off-leash, that's awesome.  Obviously, the PIT BULL hasn't been trained to stay off people's properties, but that's not a PIT BULL issue, it's a lousy human issue.

    I'd be calling the cops on this guy, btw.  I don't know about where you are, but in NJ, the fines get pretty hefty for not curbing your dog.







    I don't necessarily have anything against pit bulls.  But NO dog should be unleashed.  Period.  It's unsafe for the dog and its potentially unsafe for other animals and for people.

    Pit bulls don't bite any more often than most other breeds of dogs but, when they do, they tend to cause more damage because of their jaw structure.  76% of dog bite fatalities in the U.S. from 1982 to 2014 were caused by a pit bull or a Rottweiler.  Sorrynotsorry.  Those breeds of dogs, or any large breed of dog that could cause serious harm, especially need to be on leashes when in public, AT ALL TIMES.

    Dogs are animals and not always predictable!  Even the sweetest dog can have a bad day.  Or feel provoked, even if it is for no reason.

    On the other side of the size coin, I also have a neighbor who walks his three Chihuahuas without a leash.  Though he at least picks up after them.  That pisses me off also.  Especially because they're aggressive.  I previously had a tenant next door who had a 90 lb. Black Lab.  One of those Chihuahuas came within inches of losing its life because it ran up to that dog barking aggressively.  The Lab...who wasn't that well mannered of a dog...lunged for it but, because the Lab was on a leash, my tenant was able to keep it from attacking that little dog.

    Bottom line, I don't want to be around unleashed dogs and I definitely don't want my own dog around unleashed dogs.  Even a Chihuahua bite can be a doctor's visit and get infected.  I mean, the doo-doo is just really annoying, but allowing one's dog to walk without a leash...whatever breed of dog it is...is potentially putting somebody else's health or somebody else's pet at risk.  It's against the law in most jurisdictions and it is a huge, selfish, jerk move.  For absolutely no reason.





    I agree with you about leashing dogs, but the statistics on dog bites are not reliable. Firstly, the majority of "mixed breed dogs" are categorized as Pitbull mixes. Anything that even REMOTELY looks like a bully breed with often be categorized that way, with "terrier mix" coming in second. Secondly, the breeds are not verified when the bite comes in, so if I get a bite report from your dog and you're calling it a lab mix when you adopted it from the shelter and it is genetically a golden retriever, lab mix still goes on the report. So people can tell you whatever they want about their dog, and it is not necessarily true. Thirdly, I've found that agencies reporting these statistics are primarily interested in pitbull/pitbull mix/bully breed bites that are reported. They often don't request the full report of all available animal bites. I've found, at least in the county I'm working in, the vast majority of dog bites we receive are those little fluffy designer dog (-poo/-doodle/-noodle) mixes. Maybe because they are overbred and mentally unstable, or because they are more popular, I don't know. But I just wanted to point that out. I've met many pitbulls that were total lovebugs, and I've also owned one that had serious stranger danger issues. They're a mixed bag.

    ETA: I thought I had something to add but I don't think I do.




  • ellamber said:



    I agree with you about leashing dogs, but the statistics on dog bites are not reliable. Firstly, the majority of "mixed breed dogs" are categorized as Pitbull mixes. Anything that even REMOTELY looks like a bully breed with often be categorized that way, with "terrier mix" coming in second. Secondly, the breeds are not verified when the bite comes in, so if I get a bite report from your dog and you're calling it a lab mix when you adopted it from the shelter and it is genetically a golden retriever, lab mix still goes on the report. So people can tell you whatever they want about their dog, and it is not necessarily true. Thirdly, I've found that agencies reporting these statistics are primarily interested in pitbull/pitbull mix/bully breed bites that are reported. They often don't request the full report of all available animal bites. I've found, at least in the county I'm working in, the vast majority of dog bites we receive are those little fluffy designer dog (-poo/-doodle/-noodle) mixes. Maybe because they are overbred and mentally unstable, or because they are more popular, I don't know. But I just wanted to point that out. I've met many pitbulls that were total lovebugs, and I've also owned one that had serious stranger danger issues. They're a mixed bag.

    ETA: I thought I had something to add but I don't think I do.




    I was bit pretty badly by a choco. lab several years ago.  Went to the ER and everything.  The nurses there told me that the most common dog bite they see (and it could be regional) was from labs, which surprised me.

    A few months later, I was bit by a hound-lab cross.  Almost lost a couple of fingers.  Those two dogs were owned by the same couple, which I use in my arguments about nature vs. nurture.  

    Also wanted to add that I believe leash laws are meant to protect humans as much as other animals.  I can't tell you the number of times I've been walking my dog on a leash (and picking up after him, like a responsible pet owner) when an unleashed dog comes right up to us, and my dog reacts badly because he feels trapped/threatened by the leash and can't get away.  If the same dog came up to us and mine wasn't on a leash, it would be a different ball game.  And, suddenly, it's MY fault because I have "an aggressive breed dog."



    That's a good point, also.  It's not uncommon for a dog on a leash to feel more threatened if there are dogs around who are not on leashes.  Just yet anther reason it is such a BAD, BAD idea.

    I'm wouldn't be surprised if Labs rank up there for causing the most bites.  But part of that is it's a really common breed.  I know this is just anecdotal, but my former tenant's Lab was not a dog I trusted.  I could easily see it biting someone under the right circumstances.  I was glad their tenancy was only going to be a short one anyway.

    Nature vs. nurture is a LOT of it.  Most of it.  But it's not everything.  Different breeds have different tendencies.  For example, Chow-Chows are considered the most aggressive dog breed.  Can there be a sweet Chow-Chow who wouldn't hurt a fly?  Of course!  But, even being raised well from puppyhood, they are just more likely to be an aggressive dog as compared to other breeds.

    @ellamber, you're definitely right about statistics.  They are not always to be trusted.  And pitbulls and rotts, especially pitbulls, are fairly common dog breeds.  So that will play into it also.  I didn't mean for my original post to come off specifically anti-pitbull.  But they are a breed of dog that has and can kill or seriously maim people.  So, just like any breed of dog that is large enough to do that, it is especially important that those owners leash and have control of their dogs.  Because their selfishness and utter laziness is not worth someone else's life and health.

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  • @short+sassy I didn't read your post as anti-pitbull, I just wanted to throw my two cents in as someone who's handled dog bites professionally for the past five years. Pitbulls definitely have a reputation and deserve to have responsible and smart ownership, there are many people who are not a good match for pitbulls and I believe this is a big part of why these dogs are one of the most euthanized breeds in the country.

    The only dogs that ever bit me were German shepherds, however the one bite that sent me to the hospital came from my cat. It is what it is, if it has teeth it'll probably bite something at some point.

  • ellamber said:

    @short+sassy I didn't read your post as anti-pitbull, I just wanted to throw my two cents in as someone who's handled dog bites professionally for the past five years. Pitbulls definitely have a reputation and deserve to have responsible and smart ownership, there are many people who are not a good match for pitbulls and I believe this is a big part of why these dogs are one of the most euthanized breeds in the country.

    The only dogs that ever bit me were German shepherds, however the one bite that sent me to the hospital came from my cat. It is what it is, if it has teeth it'll probably bite something at some point.


    Oh, I've heard that!  I don't know if it's really true, but I've gotten the impression that cat bites are more prone to causing a bad infection as compared to a dog bite.

    But I certainly don't want to be bit by either one, lol.

    In fact, I watched a People's Court where a guy had been bitten by his neighbor's cat.  He didn't think it was a big deal at first and didn't see a doctor at first.  But a couple days later, his whole arm started turning bad colors and he went to the ER.  He came close to dying from that infection and spent a few days in the hospital!  All from one cat bite.  Crazy stuff!

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  • LD1970LD1970 member
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    Agreed that dogs should be leashed.  But again, that's a lousy human, not a dog issue.

    When my prior dog (22 lb half sheltie/half eskimo) was a puppy and I took her to walk the bike path, an unleashed German shepherd walking with his teenager came at us, snapping.  That kid had NO control over the shepherd, also a puppy, and completely unwilling to listen to voice commands.  Another time, it was a woman with two unleashed boxers that came running at us.  I grabbed them both by the collars, one in each hand, as one had it's mouth open across my pup's back.  It was like one of those "grandma pulled a car off her grandson" moments.  The woman ran up to us, apologizing.  She was an idiot, and I told her so.  Also, that bike path was near a main street, and any of those dogs could've gotten away and injured or killed.

    Also agree that dog bite stats are BS.  

    My sheltie/eskimo would have been a billion times more likely to bite you or your kid than my parents' or sister's pits.  She was a sweetheart and my love, but very picky about who she liked, and definitely wasn't fond of most kids.  She was also very fluffy, adorable, and attractive to kids, who had a bad habit of trying to run at her to pet her, arms flailing, and lungs screaming, "Puppyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!"  I was constantly having to move her away before they could get to us.

    Our current dogs (76 lb lab/pointer and 93 lb lab/we have no freakin' clue) would be more likely to kiss or pounce you to death... unless you broke into the house, in which case the 93-pounder might rip your neck out. 

    I, myself, have only ever been bitten by a boss' cocker spaniel, a friend's German shepherd, and a gas station watchdog of unknown breed when I was really little and hadn't yet learned not to try and pet a strange animal.

    My sister, who's a vet, had a bad bite that got infected from a chow, and a bad bite that drew blood right through her lab coat from a yorkie, of all things.

    Only injury I've gotten from a pit was from my parents' who thought she was a lap dog and clocked me in the jaw with her crazy thick skull while jumping into my lap.
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