Covfefe

kimmiinthemitten · June 2017

Why do business people insist that we can't regulate industry to protect the planet AND be profitable? It drives me crazy. I mean what planet will these companies operate on once we have destroyed this one?!

missJeanLouise · June 2017

100% agree.

kimmiinthemitten · June 2017

I just listened to the entire press conference (and deserve a drink) and still don't have 1 concrete example of how this hurts American business. It was just a bunch of reworded sentences swearing that it does and comparing Pittsburgh to Paris.

I'm pretty sure right to work laws that drove down wages and made full time jobs part time, coupled with foreign steel and American businesses like Trump Towers that bought it is what drove down Pittsburghs business climate.

VarunaTT · June 2017

When there are energy businesses who want to stay in, are encouraging the country to stay in, because they know there's profit to be made. I'm sure this is about coal and people refusing to change.

kimmiinthemitten · June 2017

VarunaTT said:

When there are energy businesses who want to stay in, are encouraging the country to stay in, because they know there's profit to be made. I'm sure this is about coal and people refusing to change.

Yup!

short+sassy · June 2017

Because if the rest of the world thinks it a great idea...than it must be bad, (banging my head against the wall).

charlotte989875 · June 2017

This was a non-binding accord to voluntarily reduce emissions?! How in the effing world is that hurting Americans, jobs, national sovereignty, or the ability to set our own policies. Does this administration 1) not understand science, 2) not understand international agreements, or 3) just make shit up as they go along. Seriously this is ridiculous.

Heffalump · June 2017

kimmiinthemitten said:

Why do business people insist that we can't regulate industry to protect the planet AND be profitable? It drives me crazy. I mean what planet will these companies operate on once we have destroyed this one?!

The only encouraging thing is that a lot of businesses are actually coming out in favor of the Paris Agreement, including Exxon Mobil. Elon Musk and Bob Iger have resigned from the White House advisory councils they were on over this, and they probably won't be the last.

I have to hope that this will follow the path of a lot of other societal progress: two steps forward, one step back, until suddenly you reach a tipping point (as with gay marriage), and then there's no going back.

banana468 · June 2017

I am extremely hopeful that the large amount of people speaking out against this decision help to sway at least other Congressmen that this was a piss poor decision.

Rand Paul can STFU.

kimmiinthemitten · June 2017

banana468 said:

I am extremely hopeful that the large amount of people speaking out against this decision help to sway at least other Congressmen that this was a piss poor decision.

Rand Paul can STFU.

The National Review reported this morning that the reaction from the left was "unhinged." Apparently disagreeing with something and speaking out is no longer a common reaction to divisive issues.

short+sassy · June 2017

kimmiinthemitten said:

banana468 said:

I am extremely hopeful that the large amount of people speaking out against this decision help to sway at least other Congressmen that this was a piss poor decision.

Rand Paul can STFU.

The National Review reported this morning that the reaction from the left was "unhinged." Apparently disagreeing with something and speaking out is no longer a common reaction to divisive issues.

It's really amusing to call the left "unhinged"...when, really, Trump is the poster child for that word.

*Barbie* · June 2017

Yeah, Mayor Peduto of Pittsburgh wasn't too happy about that comparison... also, Pittsburgh overwhelmingly voted for Clinton.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/01/politics/pittsburgh-mayor-donald-trump/

charlotte989875 · June 2017

Did anyone listen to CA gov Brown this morning on NPR. He's hilarious.

VarunaTT · June 2017

One of the things I'm really afraid of is what's playing out in MO's legislature, starting to play out nationally even more.

St. Louis voted to raise their minimum wage to $10/hour. The fucking state legislature stepped in and slapped the legislation down in some BULLSHIT moves in the last minute of their session.

So, basically Republicans now believe in "smaller government as long as it does what we want". Which everyone has always known except their damn base.

I'm afraid that these cities taking stands (which I heartily applaud b/c I prefer more direct representation in a lot of matters) will start getting slapped down by the national government. B/c again, "smaller government as long as it does what we want."

The overreach of power on the parts of these legislative bodies makes me furious.

also, @charlotte989875: No they don't understand science -- scary thing is that they THINK they do (deniers), or they don't care (that asshole who just said God would save us from climate change), or they won't listen to those people who do understand science (elitists); I think they understand national agreements, they're just ignorant of the fact that the global society/economy is no longer avoidable and isolationism is not a viable foreign policy b/c of that; and yes, the make covefefe up.

kimmiinthemitten · June 2017

VarunaTT said:

also, @charlotte989875: No they don't understand science -- scary thing is that they THINK they do (deniers), or they don't care (that asshole who just said God would save us from climate change), or they won't listen to those people who do understand science (elitists); I think they understand national agreements, they're just ignorant of the fact that the global society/economy is no longer avoidable and isolationism is not a viable foreign policy b/c of that; and yes, the make covefefe up.

Bolded: He's from my state - yay! </sarcasm>

I think they do understand the science, they just don't care and that's not an argument they can make to the people. So instead they convince people it's all boogey-man shit.

It's the same shit they get away with with trickle-down economics. They have convinced the working class that the poor class is the reason they're stuck, while their corporate sponsors rake in the dough and watch as the two lower rungs beef it out.

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