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Wait, where is your H in this? They're his kids too.

Dear Prudence,

My husband and I have two children under 4 years old. We live in a city where child care is difficult to find and expensive. Most of my salary goes toward day care. My in-laws live an hour away. They are both retired and refuse to help out—their grandchildren rank about fifth on their priorities behind their dogs, “volunteer” work, and weekly card games. Just having them pick up our son from preschool every day would be a lifesaver. Traffic is horrible and the school has a $20 fine for every 15 minutes you are late. I have begged my husband to get his parents on board, but the conversation was fruitless. He asked his father and got told while they would be available in an emergency, we need to “figure out” our own lives. We choose to live in the city instead of down the street and they aren’t going to drive every day. I find their selfishness appalling, and I find it hard now to make small talk about trivialities like their garden or their church charity. Is there anything I can do here? I have lost all drive to make sure my children interact with their grandparents. Why bother if they won’t? My husband says the situation will get better when the kids get older. I am just so tired.

—Indifferent In-Laws

Re: Wait, where is your H in this? They're his kids too.

  • Wow, the entitlement! Expecting her in-laws to drive an hour each way to pick her kids up?! That's insane to me. You had kids, they are your responsibility. 
  • Wait, the in-laws are the selfish ones here? Pretty sure expecting other people to rearrange their lives to accommodate your choices (where to live, where your children go to school) is the definition of selfish. 

    What you can do LW is rearrange your work schedule, have your H rearrange his, hire a nanny/someone to pick up the kids, send the kids to another school, move closer to where your kids go to school. All options other than cajoling your in-laws into something they don’t want to do & cutting them off from your kids in the process. 
  • Wait a second.   You made a choice to have children and find it selfish that your IL's aren't free childcare? 

    Ohhhh no.

    Look, it's one thing if your IL's insisted on living with you or some other financial obligation.   But you are making choices on where to live and what childcare to use.   This is not your IL's responsibility and YOU are the one being selfish here.  The person who needs a reality check (AND FAST) is the mother of the child in need of childcare.  Realize this fast before you have more problems other than an $20 penalty for tardiness. 
  • Your in-laws live an hour away and you expect them to be available to pick up your kids from school? How is this a solution? 

    It sounds to me like you don't like your in-laws and are looking for reasons to justify your resentment. But it is your responsibility to figure out your kids' education and care. Find a school closer to one of your jobs, find a school that's not so harsh about late pickup, or move out of the city so things are less expensive and traffic isn't so bad. Stop blaming your in-laws for this problem and grow up.
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  • LW is coming off sounding like a twat.  I get that they're tired, but that's a problem that LW and their H need to work out.  I'm totes on 'team grandparents'.  They did their time and yes, they're happy to be emergency back-up, but FFS NO ONE WANTS TO DRIVE AN HOUR OUT OF THEIR WAY FOR THIS.  

    It doesn't mean that they don't love their grandkids.  I'd argue, they want to keep loving/liking their grandkids and not being secondary caretakers is probably helping that.  Little kids are cute and fun, but also annoying and exhausting.  

    Sorry you didn't realize the work that was going to go into this, but (gameshow voice) this is your life! ::moving set reveals all the traps of adulting::

    LW if your H isn't stepping up, then you have an H problem and harassing his parents isn't going to fix that shit. 
  • Wow .... way to just ASSUME your IL's are going to be there when they live an hour away.
    My mum lives 20min {by bus} away and tbh we really only have her pick up BabyKitten if we can't leave. She doesn't mind as long as she knows ahead of time but we never ASSUME she will.
    Like my IL's - they willingly take off time to watch her when M and I were stuck and couldn't take another day off. {tbh MIL wants to retire asap}

    I can't with this LW, I just can't.
  • What was Prudie's response to this?  Please tell me she lit into the LW??  :)
  • LW you're being ridiculous.  Even if the retired ILs were 3 minutes away it's not their job to pitch in with childcare.  They did the day in day out stuff already, decades ago.   

    My H couldve written this letter...we've had many a fight over why we were paying for childcare/early morning dropoff when my retired, local parents "should" be helping.  I stuck to my guns and was able to get out of the baby and toddler years with little more than a couple of date nights a year and a few last-minute frantic medical emergency sitting stints.  Parents have to figure out everyday childcare that doesn't involve grandparents.
  • LW says "We choose to live in the city instead of down the street." What point is she trying to make there? So, admittedly, you're not choosing to make it easy for the ILs to see your kids by your choice of home?

    And your solution is that they should "make an effort" to see your kids by driving two hours round trip to spend... time in the car with the kids? Every day? That is the "effort" required of them to be good grandparents?

    What?
  • I have several friends whose kids expect them to provide child care and child transportation. I think their kids/in laws are taking advantage of them. I spend a lot of time at DD's with the boys, but that is my choice. H and I offer if we know they have an event coming up and would need a babysitter (we are 3.5 hours away). The key here is that we OFFER they don't ask - unless it is a special circumstance. They are always grateful and tell us so. If they expected us to show up whenever they needed us, I would be less inclined to assist. 
  • We ask my ILs to watch the kids from time to time but they have ASKED US to do this and they specifically moved to be in our town to be able to do this.  

    But these are one-off events like a sleepover for the night that I threw DH's birthday party or tonight they have the kids for dinner while we're at the fundraiser.  

    It isn't "MIL your day is Tuesday." 


  • Adding in that my mum is reducing her shifts in 2021 {she'll be 60} and will only work Tues - Thurs.
    I'll admit, I did ask if she wanted to take BabyKitten when she's off and she said yes - but only one day a week and can cover if daycare is closed if needed.

    MIL is going to be retiring about 2yrs later. She's entertained the idea of picking up BabyKitten on Fridays and bringing her home.
    Again, one day a week.
  • My kids went to daycare, but we've never paid for a sitter to go out on a Friday or Saturday.  Or had one for a trip we took alone.  We've always had our parents to rely on to assist us, but it was always their pleasure to do so.  My mom told us for years that she was not 'grandma daycare' and not to expect it.  Her point was that she wanted to enjoy her grandkids, not be part of raising them. 

    MIL did watch the kiddo for about 6 months after DH came back from VA during his divorce and MIL had just been laid off. But it was a special circumstance in getting DH back on his feet and whatnot. 
  • I really just want to laugh at LW - this is a problem for the parents and the solution is not to make elderly people drive one hour (and is that round trip or one-way) just to get your kids from daycare!  

    We have used grandparents for babysitting, but never would have asked them to do something like this!  MIL had initially told us that if/when she retired, she would watch DD for us.  But, in helping us on emergency care days, she realized that its just too much for her to do on her own and more than one day in a row!  She also probably won't retire until DD is in Kindergarten now anyway, so that discussion is all moot now.
  • So what’s interesting is my Mom offered to watch the baby when he’s born, and while we still need to work out a bunch of details we will definitely pay her, and well only have her for as many days as week as she offers. But we never said anything and she offered, more than once, before we started talking about the details. 
  • I kind of want to slap LW. I’m surprised the in-laws have any time for them with an attitude like that. 


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  • What entitlement!
    If "most" of her salary goes to day care it's time to assess whether a full-time job is worth it or if they'd be further ahead for one parent to quit their job and stay home with the children.  Or maybe work part-time?  Depending on the job there can be extra budget needed for a professional wardrobe, more convenience foods, more mileage and wear and tear on a vehicle, etc.  When you add in all of this, they may be losing money by having both parents work and putting the kids in day care.  
    Take care of your own children and don't expect your ILs to do the job of you and your husband!
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