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Wedding Woes

Don't go, don't make up excuses, but realize others will still have something to say.

Dear Prudence,

I grew up in a family that combined narcissism and religious abuse with good old-fashioned military “discipline.” Everything I did, said, or consumed was monitored and controlled. Everything in my life revolved around pleasing my parents. I’m a reasonably well-adjusted adult parenting two children of my own, but I am still unable to fully escape my childhood conditioning that says I should be agreeing to my parents’ every whim. They significantly eased up by the time my two youngest siblings were old enough to notice, so they’ve basically had a totally different childhood. I’ve been told over and over that I’m lying about my own childhood.

My father is retiring soon, which is a huge deal in the military, and my mother has already told us all that we’re expected to go to their house for his party. She has said that since she “never asks for anything for herself” that it is especially important for us to attend. I don’t want to. There are going to be a bunch of people talking about how great my parents are and what a good job they did raising us. We’ll be expected to be appropriately subservient and grateful to the parents who “gave up so much” to provide for us. I want to avoid the whole charade altogether and not force my kids into a stressful situation. But I know if I don’t go it will turn into a thing that I will never stop hearing the end of it. Can I have permission to just not go and make up an excuse and not feel bad about it?

—Retirement Party Blues

Re: Don't go, don't make up excuses, but realize others will still have something to say.

  • You do not need to go but I feel like there's a big disconnect here.   Have you expressed this issue to your parents?  Do they understand or at least have they heard how you feel? 

    This is not your fault however I hope that there are some boundaries that are being placed so some of this is less of a surprise to those close to you like siblings.  
  • mrsconn23 said:
    I have a friend who's 3rd of 4 and her older siblings have talked about how different things were from their childhoods vs my friend's (I think her brother is close to 50 and her sister is mid-40's.  We're late 30's).  Part of it is basically that parenting is on a learning curve and as you parent your 1st kid and don't fuck shit up, you adjust and make different choices with subsequent kids.  And also, her dad's career trajectory eased financial burdens that made it easier to provide things to the younger kids that the older ones may have been denied.  

    While I can see LW's point, they are not really making it clear why this is a hill to die on.  I feel like I'm always suggesting therapy, but this is a clear cut case of history being muddled by conflicting emotions.  They need to do the work to clarify it for themselves, on their own.  You can't work your shit out on other people, because they don't have to take it on because that shit is yours.  

    I mean, take 'retirement' party out of it and insert funeral or wedding.  It's the same thing. You don't use life events to work out family drama or make stand on all the past transgressions. 
    Right.   If this is now all suddenly boiling at the surface it does seem somewhat unfair to the parents if now is the time. 

    But LW needs to work through their feelings and emotions so snap judgments and anger can be lessened if possible. 
  • While normally I'm a proponent of people not doing something they don't want to do because of family obligation, it just doesn't feel "right" here.  Yes, absolutely.  That concept still applies, especially if the event will cause emotional trauma (though I'm not getting that impression).  But do I think it's wise or a good idea?  I don't.

    I'm not discounting the LW's trauma and emotional abuse they suffered as a child.  But they obviously still have a relationship with their parents and siblings.  It also sounds like they want to keep that relationship on good, albeit arms length, terms.  And family, for the most part, should celebrate their milestones together (when possible) and this is a pretty big one.

    It also sounds like it's not so much they are trying to avoid their parents, they are annoyed at the thought of having to listen to people praise them.  That's where the "smile and nod", tell a half truth comes in.  Like, "Your parents are such wonderful people!  And look at what great and successful children they raised!"  LW, "Thanks!  I really enjoy my work in XYZ industry.  It's definitely an accomplishment that Dad devoted 25 years to serving the Army.  What have you all been doing (bean dip)?"  And then in their head they can add, "Too bad he brought his work attitude home." 
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  • Couldn't they say they would rather have a small family celebration for the father's retirement?  Then they don't have to listen to all these people gushing over the parents, but they are still acknowledging the milestone.  

  • kerbohl said:
    Couldn't they say they would rather have a small family celebration for the father's retirement?  Then they don't have to listen to all these people gushing over the parents, but they are still acknowledging the milestone.  
    While I can't say this 100%, it's always been my impression that the military itself throws these retirement parties.  And they are HUGE deals with lots of guests, albeit the vast majority of the guests are in the military themselves.  And the higher ranking the person, the larger and more grandiose the party.

    Though it's possible the family is also throwing their own retirement party, to include friends and extended family who wouldn't have been invited to the military one.

    I grew up next to a huge Marine Corps. base and, although I never went to one of these retirement parties, I've heard the stories! 
    But even if it weren't, I don't think LW gets to tell the dad what type of party he gets to have. If he wants a big blow out party, he can have a blow out party. 
  • kerbohl said:
    Couldn't they say they would rather have a small family celebration for the father's retirement?  Then they don't have to listen to all these people gushing over the parents, but they are still acknowledging the milestone.  
    While I can't say this 100%, it's always been my impression that the military itself throws these retirement parties.  And they are HUGE deals with lots of guests, albeit the vast majority of the guests are in the military themselves.  And the higher ranking the person, the larger and more grandiose the party.

    Though it's possible the family is also throwing their own retirement party, to include friends and extended family who wouldn't have been invited to the military one.

    I grew up next to a huge Marine Corps. base and, although I never went to one of these retirement parties, I've heard the stories! 
    Can confirm. My Dad is Retired Air Force and it was a huge deal. 
  • kerbohl said:
    Couldn't they say they would rather have a small family celebration for the father's retirement?  Then they don't have to listen to all these people gushing over the parents, but they are still acknowledging the milestone.  
    While I can't say this 100%, it's always been my impression that the military itself throws these retirement parties.  And they are HUGE deals with lots of guests, albeit the vast majority of the guests are in the military themselves.  And the higher ranking the person, the larger and more grandiose the party.

    Though it's possible the family is also throwing their own retirement party, to include friends and extended family who wouldn't have been invited to the military one.

    I grew up next to a huge Marine Corps. base and, although I never went to one of these retirement parties, I've heard the stories! 
    Can confirm. My Dad is Retired Air Force and it was a huge deal. 
    So is my dad. It is a tremendous deal. That said, you don't have to be "appropriately subservient and grateful" for the way you were brought up. If someone tries to mention this, bean dip them until the party is over.
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