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What. The. Everloving. MF?!

Dear Prudence,

My father and I have never had what you would call a “conventional” relationship. We’ve smoked weed together, and he often likes to tell me about his sex life. He’s successfully ostracized everyone else in our family, and I think I stick around out of a sense of responsibility, even though I don’t like the way he treats me. He’s married to a younger woman (he’s 65, she’s 40) whom I’ve known since I was 14. I’m 37 now. It’s a long story.

He wrote me an email a few days ago detailing how he and his wife had been discussing the idea of her having sex with “one of their friends”—and then told me that friend was me! He asked me what I thought about the idea and that he’d be interested in watching. It was very enthusiastic and not at all joking. I was horrified and responded that he needed to see a therapist and that it would take me a very long time to be able to speak to either of them again. He then claimed that he’d just been joking and that it was clear I had “never loved him.” So that’s where we are now. I know I’ve been gaslit by my father for most of my life (he’s really good at it), and I know it’s happening now. I’m not crazy, right? What he wrote me is wrong, right? Was my response out of line?

—Inappropriate Father

Re: What. The. Everloving. MF?!

  • Jfc. And it’s also sounding like the wife was 17 when she and LWs father met. Please give all of the women here therapy. 


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  • No. No.  NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO 

    Some bells can never be unrung.  Some things can't be taken back.  Some pooches will always be screwed.   This is a unforgivable crossed line.  OP needs to think long and hard about having Daddy Predator in her life. 

  • This is so incredibly fucking gross.  You don't come back from this.  
  • “Oh, your not down with this? Just joking”

    nice cover up, Dad.

  • ei34ei34 member
    Knottie Warrior 2500 Comments 500 Love Its 5 Answers
    Just like how you can't un-see some things...I can't unread this.  Jeez.  I feel extra sad that LW acknowledges that dad needs therapy but she doesn't.
  • Hooooooooooooooly fuck. 
  • Literal thought process:
    Oh ... he does not think of himself as a parental figure.
    Wait ... she's 37 and stepmom is 40?

    WAIT WHAT
  • Even if this is the best case scenario, and he was joking (which, I'm going to go with no) - her response is valid.  It's a gross, inappropriate joke that was used to unsettle his daughter and requires that he talk it out with a therapist.  Her response is not a sign that she never loved him, it's a sign that something is wrong with him that he needs to fix.

    Also, if LW has never liked the way her father has treated her, now is the time to bring that up and say that while he is at the therapist, here are some other topics of conversation.  

  • Some of you are assuming the LW is female/daughter.  I've read through the letter a couple times and I'm not seeing where it says that.  When I first read it, I was "picturing" the LW as male/son.  Not that it matters.  It's horrifying and deeply disturbing.
    Not that it makes it any less horrifying, but I did initially read it as female/daughter but now I'm totally thinking it's his son/male.
  • Honestly, I felt like it was the daughter because my immediate thought was John Phillips/Mackenzie Phillips and their screwed up incestual relationship. 
  • Some of you are assuming the LW is female/daughter.  I've read through the letter a couple times and I'm not seeing where it says that.  When I first read it, I was "picturing" the LW as male/son.  Not that it matters.  It's horrifying and deeply disturbing.
    Daaaaaamn.  I did that too.  I assumed female but you’re right!

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    Get therapy. NOW.
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