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Tell me I'm being stupid about Covid Christmas

I've got some family drama going down and I need people to keep me in line.

Hubby and I reduce our contact.  I work from home, and go out for groceries about once every three weeks at this point.  Hubby works at home when he can and doesn't see anyone else at all.  I've been going to see my parents, usually to go hiking with my mom, so I consider them in my bubble.  I occasionally see my brother and his family too, maybe three times since the pandemic?  The bubble gets confusing though because my mom sees my brother's family and my cousin and lives with my uncle, so she's actually got a lot of contact going on, so not really a bubble at that point.

My sister and her family were going to come for Christmas.  They have low cases in the place where they are, and have also been reducing contact.  The week before Christmas they were going to isolate completely (not leaving the house except walking the dog) and come over.  Same plan on my end.  My mother decided to tell my sister not to come.  That's not the issue - I understand people being careful and I want to encourage caution. 

Here's why I'm pissed and I need people to tell me to get over it.  My mother didn't consult any of us, just made the decision after my cousin told her to.  Cousin is sort of like a sibling, so she does get a lot of say, but still, weird that it wasn't discussed amongst anyone else but them.  Weirder still that cousin wouldn't be there for the visit.   And cousin is the host of our book club, and she is not cancelling that.  What the h***?  So she is fine with us not seeing family, but not cancelling something that really isn't necessary?  Book club is scheduled for two days after Christmas, so all members would have probably seen multiple people just a few days before meeting indoors with a bunch of other people that have done the same.  When I said I wasn't coming, cousin basically said "yeah, December gets busy".  No, December isn't busy, I'm limiting my contact as much as I can and the holidays is maxing out my contacts even within my bubble.  Plus, she's been galivanting all over Ontario because she "misses travelling".  Glass houses and stones and all that. 

Is book club ends up being cancelled, I'll be less pissed.  But right now, I don't get where cousin gets off.  She wasn't even going to be there at Christmas, but she thinks she gets a say in cancelling a visit?  And is still encouraging me to go to book club?  Really?

Okay, now tell me why I'm being ridiculous.  I need to see this from another angle.  

Re: Tell me I'm being stupid about Covid Christmas

  • so first of all - the bubble has been scrapped because people don't understand how to bubble.

    second - have you tried the grocery pick up option? We do that and keeps our grocery routine also

    third - Regardless if cousin has say or not, they don't get to tell you how to arrange your life. If sister wants to visit you and your mum doesn't feel safe besides the precautions you are both taking - that's a side issue.
    Honestly cousin sounds like they're trying to control other people's lives. 
    Wait - cousin is in Ontario? WE ARE A FUCKING HOT SPOT!!! Cousin needs to stfu! {Well depends on where in Ontario but in general that's fucking stupid - us and Quebec are bad now}

    You're not being stupid but you do need to talk to your mum about this and cousin about the fact they aren't coming and shouldn't say anything. Maybe tell them that what they are doing isn't safe.
  • Agreed that there is no bubble of any meaning here.

    Invite your sister and see her. If your mom can join you, that's a separate discernment she needs to make with the people of her household.
  • Nope, this is bullshit.  Your anger is justified.  Especially since your sister and you are taking the correct precautions to have a holiday and your mom is heeding the wishes/'advice' of someone who's...not.  And also, someone who won't even effing be there. 

    Fine, whatever about your mom and your cousin being close.  But I'd definitely try (easier said than done) to bring up to your mom that she didn't consult you or your sister at all about this decision, when you were going to be affected by it and that it's hurtful/obnoxious/etc. 

    Can you have your sister come to your house and you guys do Christmas?  Invite your brother? Mom can do whatever she chooses? 

    Ugh.  Sorry this is coming to a head now. How frustrating. 
  • Was there a conversation between cousin and mom, where mom was feeling nervous and cousin said, "Do what you think you need to" and then mom cancelled?  Or did cousin call up mom and say, "Cancel sister's trip"?


  • I'd like more info on this but I'm leaning towards this wasn't cousins decision to make. 

    What I'd do is talk to your mom and ask her what's going on and if she can help shed some light on this.   Mom can help identify where this is coming from first. 

    I'm inclined to think that cousin is trying to be helpful but missed the boat here. 
  • That’s bullshit. I’d also talk to sister and say if she wants to come you’d still want to see her (if that’s something your comfortable with). 

    I’m also frustrated with Covid Christmas. He is making me feel like I’m overreacting (and maybe I am) but he wants to see his family. His sister, husband, and new baby (3 months older than M) are driving out. They’re getting tested before & quarantining. His brother & SIL are also getting tested but isolated. Kids are remote. I get that this is probably safe. MIL comes over and watches the baby a few times week and she has seen BILs family inside. Everyone follows guidelines. 

    And yet I’m still really nervous about being inside with people. 
  • I'll also add I agree you can tell your sister to come and then tell your mom that based on her decision you'll schedule a Zoom with her for Christmas.
  • It's not just you.  Your cousin isn't making any sense and I understand why you are annoyed with her.  Maybe she's worried about your sister and her family, because it sounds like the sister live in a different area?  Even if it is a safer area than Ontario.

    Though the decision is ultimately up to your mother.  But your mother visiting your brother's house, where this cousin lives, sounds a lot riskier than seeing your sister and her family at Christmas time.  Especially if everyone has been quaranting for one week before anyway.

    The caveat I'll give though, is I'm not really in a bubble at all.  I have to go to an office every day.  I always have necessary errands to run, even outside of grocery store trips, but also do things that aren't necessary, though not high risk either.  The fact of the matter is, I'm exposed to lots of people all the time and there isn't much I can do about it, except mask-up, socially distance, and pray.  So I focus on the staying masked at all times when indoors (except in my own cube or home) and socially distancing, as best I can.  But I also don't have any family in the area.  I socialize with friends once in awhile, but it is always outside and socially distanced.
      
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  • Was your sister coming to stay with you or your mom? If with you just call her back and say actually you do want her to come, and tell your mom she doesn’t get to uninvite people to your home because you’re an adult. 

    You aren’t being stupid. 
  • I don't think you are being irrational. Your cousin doesn't get a say since she isn't going to be there. Even if she was, she doesn't get to call the decision. It sounds like y'all are doing everything you can. Invite your sister to stay with you.
  • kerbohlkerbohl member
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    edited December 2020
    mrsconn23 said:
    Nope, this is bullshit.  Your anger is justified.  Especially since your sister and you are taking the correct precautions to have a holiday and your mom is heeding the wishes/'advice' of someone who's...not.  And also, someone who won't even effing be there. 

    Fine, whatever about your mom and your cousin being close.  But I'd definitely try (easier said than done) to bring up to your mom that she didn't consult you or your sister at all about this decision, when you were going to be affected by it and that it's hurtful/obnoxious/etc. 

    Can you have your sister come to your house and you guys do Christmas?  Invite your brother? Mom can do whatever she chooses? 

    Ugh.  Sorry this is coming to a head now. How frustrating. 
    I am thinking of visiting sister, just me.  I get the outcome possibly being not getting together, but why didn't we get heard out?

    Edited to add that to the bolded yes, I am thinking of bringing that up.  It will probably be an awkward conversation.

  • Was your sister coming to stay with you or your mom? If with you just call her back and say actually you do want her to come, and tell your mom she doesn’t get to uninvite people to your home because you’re an adult. 

    You aren’t being stupid. 
    She has to stay with my mom.  Her dog is coming, and because my dog is immune compromised they can't be together.  That and my house isn't great for nephews, having swords and stuff lying around.  

  • VarunaTT said:
    Was there a conversation between cousin and mom, where mom was feeling nervous and cousin said, "Do what you think you need to" and then mom cancelled?  Or did cousin call up mom and say, "Cancel sister's trip"?


    Yes, see, this is what I'm not thinking of.  That is altogether possible  Maybe this is how the conversation went down ... it just seems weird that cousin would say this when she is clearly fine with doing whatever she wants and still getting together with friends.  I don't get that part.  And, again, why the question wasn't asked of me.

    Cousin is a lovely person, but likes to control things.  Sometimes it is situations where that is a fine solution, and sometimes it ends up poorly.

  • kerbohl said:
    VarunaTT said:
    Was there a conversation between cousin and mom, where mom was feeling nervous and cousin said, "Do what you think you need to" and then mom cancelled?  Or did cousin call up mom and say, "Cancel sister's trip"?


    Yes, see, this is what I'm not thinking of.  That is altogether possible  Maybe this is how the conversation went down ... it just seems weird that cousin would say this when she is clearly fine with doing whatever she wants and still getting together with friends.  I don't get that part.  And, again, why the question wasn't asked of me.

    Cousin is a lovely person, but likes to control things.  Sometimes it is situations where that is a fine solution, and sometimes it ends up poorly.
    I have family members like that and while they have done things with the best of intentions sometimes they don't realize that the choices made were not really meeting the approval of everyone but they made unilateral decisions. 
  • Is cousin the child of the uncle that your mom lives with?  Did I read that right?  She may be expressing concern about her father's health, even though you and your sister are being more careful than your cousin and mom.
  • Is cousin the child of the uncle that your mom lives with?  Did I read that right?  She may be expressing concern about her father's health, even though you and your sister are being more careful than your cousin and mom.
    Nope.  My parents' have a complicated living situation where they live with my mom's brother under the same roof, but the cousin is from a different sibling and does not live with them.  She just spends a lot of time with my mom.  

  • Also, to those who called out the bubble situation, you are absolutely right.  I always forget that it doesn't work if all parties aren't adhering to it.  Just because my parents are pretty much the only ones I see outside my own household doesn't mean it's a bubble, because she does see a bunch of other people. I've only seen my brother and my sister twice since the pandemic.  

  • I agree that your cousin is wrong to control what you do and you should be able to invite your sister et al, as long as everyone takes appropriate social distancing steps. Your cousin has no business making these decisions for your mother and sister, especially since she's not abiding by them.
  • kerbohl said:
    Also, to those who called out the bubble situation, you are absolutely right.  I always forget that it doesn't work if all parties aren't adhering to it.  Just because my parents are pretty much the only ones I see outside my own household doesn't mean it's a bubble, because she does see a bunch of other people. I've only seen my brother and my sister twice since the pandemic.  
    To be fair, even though the bubble situation doesn't work in general - if all parties adhere to it, it can work.
    We do a modified bubble per say.
  • kerbohl said:
    Is cousin the child of the uncle that your mom lives with?  Did I read that right?  She may be expressing concern about her father's health, even though you and your sister are being more careful than your cousin and mom.
    Nope.  My parents' have a complicated living situation where they live with my mom's brother under the same roof, but the cousin is from a different sibling and does not live with them.  She just spends a lot of time with my mom.  
    Got it now.  Cousin is majorly overstepping than.  But you have some time before sister travels this way.  I would do any modifications you can to your house and have your sister stay with you.  Can sister's dog stay with your mom (not sure of the distances between you and your mom) or with someone where sister lives?  Can you temporarily pack up the swords and things that are within toddler reach?  Or even just buy a baby gate to keep them out of one room where you can store all that stuff?
  • kerbohl said:
    Also, to those who called out the bubble situation, you are absolutely right.  I always forget that it doesn't work if all parties aren't adhering to it.  Just because my parents are pretty much the only ones I see outside my own household doesn't mean it's a bubble, because she does see a bunch of other people. I've only seen my brother and my sister twice since the pandemic.  
    To be fair, even though the bubble situation doesn't work in general - if all parties adhere to it, it can work.
    We do a modified bubble per say.
    Don’t you go to work in person? Not a bubble!
  • kerbohl said:
    Also, to those who called out the bubble situation, you are absolutely right.  I always forget that it doesn't work if all parties aren't adhering to it.  Just because my parents are pretty much the only ones I see outside my own household doesn't mean it's a bubble, because she does see a bunch of other people. I've only seen my brother and my sister twice since the pandemic.  
    To be fair, even though the bubble situation doesn't work in general - if all parties adhere to it, it can work.
    We do a modified bubble per say.
    Don’t you go to work in person? Not a bubble!
    Yes but I am not close to anyone. Our office is naturally spread out and we are beyond 6ft plus we mask constantly.
    Like everyone has a separate office. Plus I have plexiglass on my desk.

    I also said modified bubble.
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