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"Sorry, it's not in the budget."

Dear Prudence,

My mother’s 60th birthday is coming up. To celebrate, my stepfather Larry wants to take a family cruise composed of me, my sister Patrice, cousin, cousin’s spouse and I. He’s looking at booking a cruise in six months. Each family member would be expected to pay their own way.

I love my mother deeply, but the prospect of a family cruise fills me with dread. I have never gotten along with Larry. He makes a sport to bully people about their insecurities to make himself feel better. During Thanksgiving, he somehow managed to pick a unique fight with everyone in attendance. Larry harassed two couples about not having kids, called Patrice lazy for no reason, insulted a guest’s cooking, all in the course of one meal. Larry is also a massive complainer. No matter what happens, something is wrong. If you show up to an event early, Larry complains you’re inconveniencing the host. Arrive on time, you closed the door too loud, who raised you? Arrive late, everyone’s waiting for you, let’s move.

Larry plays off most of these things as “jokes” or “not that bad” if anyone tries to call him on it. My mother is rarely the target of these punchlines, so it appears to not have reached her notice. Patrice, another target of Larry’s, shares my opinion of him. Patrice has more money and vacation time than I do, so she’s likely to end up going on the cruise despite the irritation.

The thought of being stuck on a boat with Larry makes me want to push him overboard. I hate to picture spending money, vacation time, and airfare to try and relax with someone who fundamentally irritates me. On the other hand, my mother only turns 60 once, and it could be a chance to make memories.

— To Cruise or Not to Cruise

Re: "Sorry, it's not in the budget."

  • "Sorry, I can't afford it. Have fun though!"
  • If I wanted to do the cruise regardless, I would go and spend time finding ways to not be around Larry. If I wasn't interested in the cruise, I wouldn't go and take my mother out to lunch to celebrate separately.
    This is how i'd approach it too.  There are SO many things to do on a cruise, you wouldn't have to be around him much at all if you chose not to be.  That said, if LW doesn't want to go, just don't go, no big deal. 
  • If everyone tells Larry they don't plan to go on the family cruise, then there is no family cruise. Who cares how much vacation time and budget people have. If Patrice doesn't want to go, tell her she can say no. You say no. "Sorry, but I will not be participating. If you and mom still decide to go, have fun!"
  • My mum's bf is nice and all, but I would not go on a cruise with them.

    M & I are hesitant to even do a weekend trailer camping with them - at least on a cruise there's more spots to distance yourselves.
  • “Mom just wanted to let you know that I’m not up for a cruise. Happy to celebrate before or after.”

    there is not enough money in the world to get me on a cruise ship. If it’s a group vacation where everyone pays their own way, everyone gets a say in it
  • You don’t even have to use money as an excuse.  Crusies aren’t for everyone.  Say “it’s not my thing but thanks.  I’ll celebrate another way with you”
    My H is like this.  He has never wanted to go on one.
  • banana468 said:
    You don’t even have to use money as an excuse.  Crusies aren’t for everyone.  Say “it’s not my thing but thanks.  I’ll celebrate another way with you”
    My H is like this.  He has never wanted to go on one.
    SO many people get sea sick and those patches and otc meds don’t even help them. Some people feel trapped.  And I 100% get it.  It’s not everyone’s thing. I love ‘em.

  • banana468 said:
    You don’t even have to use money as an excuse.  Crusies aren’t for everyone.  Say “it’s not my thing but thanks.  I’ll celebrate another way with you”
    My H is like this.  He has never wanted to go on one.
    Mine too. It’s not my thing either but you couldn’t pay my H to go on one. 
  • I wouldn't use budget; just say I can't make it. Patrice needs to make her own decision and handle it herself, but I'd be really careful about making up an excuse that I know wouldn't work for my sister. 

    As much as I dislike cruises, I'd rather do a cruise with Larry than an all-inclusive or a trip to Europe. 
  • I wouldn't use budget; just say I can't make it. Patrice needs to make her own decision and handle it herself, but I'd be really careful about making up an excuse that I know wouldn't work for my sister. 

    As much as I dislike cruises, I'd rather do a cruise with Larry than an all-inclusive or a trip to Europe. 
    Nobody asked Patrice!! 
  • If everyone tells Larry they don't plan to go on the family cruise, then there is no family cruise. Who cares how much vacation time and budget people have. If Patrice doesn't want to go, tell her she can say no. You say no. "Sorry, but I will not be participating. If you and mom still decide to go, have fun!"
    While I know it feels bad to disappoint family, it's hard for me to understand people that find it hard to say "sorry, not spending thousands of dollars on that".  Especially for something they don't want to do.

    Or they don't like cruising.  Or that will take up too much vacation time.

    I think the LW should have a side communication with Patrice.  Give her a heads up that they're not going.  That might sway Patrice to stand firm also.  There is strength in numbers.
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  • If everyone tells Larry they don't plan to go on the family cruise, then there is no family cruise. Who cares how much vacation time and budget people have. If Patrice doesn't want to go, tell her she can say no. You say no. "Sorry, but I will not be participating. If you and mom still decide to go, have fun!"
    While I know it feels bad to disappoint family, it's hard for me to understand people that find it hard to say "sorry, not spending thousands of dollars on that".  Especially for something they don't want to do.

    Or they don't like cruising.  Or that will take up too much vacation time.

    I think the LW should have a side communication with Patrice.  Give her a heads up that they're not going.  That might sway Patrice to stand firm also.  There is strength in numbers.
    Based on what we've seen, I think a lot of people cannot figure out how to tell their parents no. 
  • banana468 said:
    If everyone tells Larry they don't plan to go on the family cruise, then there is no family cruise. Who cares how much vacation time and budget people have. If Patrice doesn't want to go, tell her she can say no. You say no. "Sorry, but I will not be participating. If you and mom still decide to go, have fun!"
    While I know it feels bad to disappoint family, it's hard for me to understand people that find it hard to say "sorry, not spending thousands of dollars on that".  Especially for something they don't want to do.

    Or they don't like cruising.  Or that will take up too much vacation time.

    I think the LW should have a side communication with Patrice.  Give her a heads up that they're not going.  That might sway Patrice to stand firm also.  There is strength in numbers.
    Based on what we've seen, I think a lot of people cannot figure out how to tell their parents no. 
    This.  My dad desperately wanted all of us (sisters, husbands, and kids) to go to his fave vacation spot in Mexico where he and mom went with their friends.  It would have been a group trip with the friends they went with.   This place is not one of the huge destinations and hard to get in and out (like 1 flight a week).  After looking into it and trying to put together something that was time and budget friendly, we had to tell our dad it wasn't going to work.  It sucked, but it was better than spending ~$5k for a place we didn't want to go on a timeline that really didn't work well for us.  Also after spending time with the group at mom's memorial, we would have been driven batshit by all of them after day 2. 
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