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I want to know what Adam did.

Dear Prudence,

Is there a good way to dump a friend who dumped your friend? My good friend “Emily” dated a “Adam” for four years. I became friends with Adam through her, and everything was great until he dumped her unceremoniously. He was cruel and selfish and revealed himself to be the kind of person I would never choose to associate with. The end, right? Except Emily has forgiven him and wants to remain friends. She is dating someone new but keeps inviting Adam to group outings because “he is still an important friend to me.”

Prudie, I don’t want to tell anyone how to conduct their relationships, whom to date, or whom to befriend, but my dislike of Adam is about the kind of person he revealed himself to be, so even if Emily wants to be his friend, I don’t. She invited him to a party recently and he cornered me and asked “what can I do to become friends again?” I stammered something about still being friends and disappeared, but what do I do next time? How do you dump someone that a dumpee wants you to be friends with? I feel like I’m on all the wrong sides here. Help.

— The Transitive Property of Break-ups

Re: I want to know what Adam did.

  • Adam, I don’t like you and don’t want to be your friend. 
  • Look, you can be honest with Adam but the other aspect of this is that you've somehow inserted yourself into that relationship.  Why does the dumping need a ceremony?  

    More to the story needed here but I don't think "he dumped her" is necessarily cause for not being friends.  

    All of this smacks of really young people.
  • IDK, both of my major relationships that ended, there are jokes about "who gets what friends in the divorce" and jokes about Team Varuna.  It happened, whether I instigated it or not. ExH was a bit harder b/c there wasn't a big dramatic moment, but with K, there was a lot of people who didn't like them in the first place, but after what they did in our breakup, people were dumping them left and right b/c they didn't want to be friends with someone who took those actions.  Some of those people, I'm not even friends with, this was literally K making their own bed.

    LW clarified that's it's b/c of who Adam is, not b/c Adam dumped their friend.  If Adam had done some other action that revealed a personality trait LW didn't like, it wouldn't matter then either.  LW just should've told Adam, "I'm not interested in a friendship with you."  They don't have to explain why, Adam is the one pushing it and "No/Nothing" is a complete answer.  
  • It sounds like the LW wants Emily to stop being friends with Adam. 

    Just like stop hanging out with him. If Emily or others invite that’s their choice, and LW gets to choose whether they stay at that event or whatever, or leave. You don’t have to keep hanging out with this person even if your friends are. 
  • It sounds like the LW wants Emily to stop being friends with Adam. 
    This.
    It sounds like LW also doesn't like that Emily forgave Adam.
  • To an extent, it's hard on all the people in a friends group when someone in the group doesn't like someone else.  For whatever reason it happened.

    I agree.  It's not about Emily is still friends with Adam, so the LW should still be friends with Adam.

    It's that the breakup allowed the LW to see major flaws in Adam's character and they don't want to be friends with someone like that.


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    I've only had one relationship where me and the guy (Jim) had a large group of mutual friends.  It was college so, yeah, that's how it was, lol.  He had a friend I'll call Sara.  She didn't go to our college, but she and I were both servers at the same restaurant.

    I met her through him, before we were coworkers.  She was 100% his friend and was a fairly close friend of his.  Sara and I got along fine, but didn't really know each other.  I only met her a handful of times in a social setting.

    He treated me horribly in private.  But, in public, he was well-liked and everybody's "good-time guy".  But even in public, the signs were there he treated me poorly.  I thought they were too subtle for anyone else to notice.

    The first shift I was working with Sara after the break-up, she came up and gave me a big hug.  She told me she had heard.  Then she said something that surprised me, it was something like, "I'm sorry if you're sad.  But I can't bring myself to say that I'm sorry you all broke up.  I'm glad you all did because you deserve to be with someone who treats you better.  I used to consider Jim one of my closest friends and thought he was such a great guy.  But I was shocked at how he treated you and I've really backed away from that friendship."

    I told her that I didn't have any hard feelings and didn't want to be the cause of their friendship cooling.  She assured me it wasn't so much that, as it was she saw he wasn't the kind of person that she thought he was.  

    I felt so "seen" in that moment and it really moved me.  Because everybody loved Jim.  He was gregarious.  Friendly and outgoing.  Larger than life.  And I didn't think anyone had noticed that I was slowly wilting next to him.
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