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Advice Needed

So, as you all know, my family is going through some big changes right now.  I'm trying to be understanding, but I'm getting stuck in the middle between my Aunt P and my "mom" (I say it this way b/c the bio relationships are mom = Grandmother, Aunt P is her bio daugher given up for adoption = my bio aunt, and I am bio granddaughter and niece).  My mom already has anxiety over where I am at all times.  We've made our peace and boundaries with this over the years.  The texting aspect has been having to be worked on, but she is getting a whole lot better with not expecting answers immediately.

Where the boundaries are lacking are between her and Aunt P, on both sides.  I'm getting roped in b/c if either one of them doesn't respond to each other w/in what seems to be about thirty minutes, they each have developed a habit of texting ME to see if I've talked to whoever is being "missed" and THEN they expect an answer from ME, immediately.  This is increasing in frequency since dad's death in August.  I am annoyed.  Please remember, Aunt P stopped speaking to me for months b/c she was pissed about a boundary I put down on her, kindly, but she didn't like it, obviously.  So, I feel like I'm skirting landmines here.

Question 1:  do I try to nip this in the bud now or let it continue for awhile longer?  How long is "longer" then?

Question 2:  Nipping in the bud:  since it's a issue with THEM, on text, I was thinking about setting a group chat with the 3 of us, that would say something like:

"Hey, Mom and Aunt P!  Since we're all busy and can't always be immediate in responses, can we all agree that we will respond to each other w/in 6 hours of a text and that we won't start looking for each other until there's no response for 6 hours?"

And see how it goes?  6 hours if way too damn short IMHO, but between mom's anxiety and my previous issues with Aunt P, I thought that might be a good compromise?  Other thoughts?


Re: Advice Needed

  • I think what you are proposing sounds great.  It nicely sets expectations for both sides.  Plus, if it is a group chat, then each of them already knows you've been informed.  And can reply back to the group chat if there is pertinent info that the other one needs.  Which I'm assuming is almost never, lol.

    I personally set expectations with people I text with.  Especially people who might occasionally have urgent texts, like my tenants.

    In a nutshell, that I cannot always text back or answer the phone when I'm at work.  And I DO NOT text or answer calls when I'm driving.  But I also explain that I don't ignore people either and will always text back at my earliest convenience.
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  • I’d start now unless you think the holidays are going to be hard on your mom without your dad and I’d let it go until the new year but that’s only if you can take it that long and if you think it would be better once the holiday passed. 

    I think what your wrote is good. What would you/ they think of having an emergency word? Like thinking if there’s truly something that need attention right now, you say the word an you can see that and get involved as soon as possible? Would that give them comfort or would they take advantage of that? 
  • @charlotte989875 I had considered something like that too.  I think it'd go alright, but I'm also fine with "hey, this is an emergency".  I don't think anyone would abuse it.  I also thought about, "If it's an emergency, let's just agree we'll be calling (the old fashioned way) and we'll pick up".  In general, I kind of assume someone calling me is urgent anymore, b/c of the way the world has gone to texting.
  • I think that’s great then! Agree to call if it’s an emergency (that’s my policy in general). 

    Sorry you have to do this- it’s tough being in the middle 
  • VarunaTT said:
    So, as you all know, my family is going through some big changes right now.  I'm trying to be understanding, but I'm getting stuck in the middle between my Aunt P and my "mom" (I say it this way b/c the bio relationships are mom = Grandmother, Aunt P is her bio daugher given up for adoption = my bio aunt, and I am bio granddaughter and niece).  My mom already has anxiety over where I am at all times.  We've made our peace and boundaries with this over the years.  The texting aspect has been having to be worked on, but she is getting a whole lot better with not expecting answers immediately.

    Where the boundaries are lacking are between her and Aunt P, on both sides.  I'm getting roped in b/c if either one of them doesn't respond to each other w/in what seems to be about thirty minutes, they each have developed a habit of texting ME to see if I've talked to whoever is being "missed" and THEN they expect an answer from ME, immediately.  This is increasing in frequency since dad's death in August.  I am annoyed.  Please remember, Aunt P stopped speaking to me for months b/c she was pissed about a boundary I put down on her, kindly, but she didn't like it, obviously.  So, I feel like I'm skirting landmines here.

    Question 1:  do I try to nip this in the bud now or let it continue for awhile longer?  How long is "longer" then?

    Question 2:  Nipping in the bud:  since it's a issue with THEM, on text, I was thinking about setting a group chat with the 3 of us, that would say something like:

    "Hey, Mom and Aunt P!  Since we're all busy and can't always be immediate in responses, can we all agree that we will respond to each other w/in 6 hours of a text and that we won't start looking for each other until there's no response for 6 hours?"

    And see how it goes?  6 hours if way too damn short IMHO, but between mom's anxiety and my previous issues with Aunt P, I thought that might be a good compromise?  Other thoughts?


    I think the thing with boundaries is that they are for you to draw. Yes it would be nice if everyone agreed to them. But if everyone were reasonable and rational you wouldn’t be at this point. I think you need to focus on your part of this. “Mom, I’m not going to discuss Aunt’s whereabouts with you and I won’t be responding to your texts asking if I’ve spoken to her because you’re worried you haven’t heard from her. It is too much for me and I’m no longer doing it.” And same to aunt. And then ignore those texts and calls. 
  • @STARMOON44 I agree with you.  If it were just me and my mother, I think it'd be fine.  We have a strong relationship and we've worked things like this out before.  Aunt P is my unknown and she was a real turd when she didn't like the previous boundary.  I don't think Aunt P is being used drawn boundaries on.  I'm not usually conflict avoidant; it just feels like such a shitty time for the family, but we still need to be respectful of each other's space.  
  • Yeah everyone wants instant answers and instant gratification these days! My mom included.  I like your response and let them know it’s perfectly normal for people these days to not respond right away even if they SEE it.  Sometimes I’ll see a text, and sit on it for a better time to respond.  And sometimes that takes days.  

  • I think the "6 hours" is oddly specific.  Could you be a little more vague like "I will respond to your texts by the end of the day/evening but will not always get to them immeidately". I also agree with PP that it may be good to just set a boundary that you're not going "look for" the other one when they start texting you about it. 
  • Casadena said:
    I think the "6 hours" is oddly specific.  Could you be a little more vague like "I will respond to your texts by the end of the day/evening but will not always get to them immeidately". I also agree with PP that it may be good to just set a boundary that you're not going "look for" the other one when they start texting you about it. 
    The specificity will work for my family.  I know it seems silly and odd, but if we put a time stamp on it, it gives really clear lines for everyone.  It's been established between me and Mom for a long time that we define emergency and time frames differently, so we put the hour name to it.  6 hours felt like enough time for a nap or getting out of social obligations to respond that might be part of normal life.  Anything else, like a late night text would probably be an emergency and if we're out of town, we usually all know who is on a trip.
  • VarunaTT said:
    The specificity will work for my family.  I know it seems silly and odd, but if we put a time stamp on it, it gives really clear lines for everyone.  It's been established between me and Mom for a long time that we define emergency and time frames differently, so we put the hour name to it.  6 hours felt like enough time for a nap or getting out of social obligations to respond that might be part of normal life.  Anything else, like a late night text would probably be an emergency and if we're out of town, we usually all know who is on a trip.
    That definitely makes a lot of sense!
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