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Speaker of the House Stuffs

IDK if any of you are following this, but I'm slowly starting to get back into following all the  political news I used to (I had to tap out for mental health reasons starting at the end of Obama's final term).  This Speaker of the House nonsense has me all riled up, but THIS is my favorite fact to come out of things so far:

From CNN:

...The speaker is elected by a majority of the 435-member House, which is normally 218. But "present" votes or absences lower the threshold to reach a majority.

There is already one open seat caused by the death of Virginia Republican Rep. Donald McEachin. If enough of the 20 hardline Republicans voted "present," it could enable Rep. Kevin McCarthy to win with fewer than 218 votes. Two "present" votes lower the threshold for a majority by one vote.

  • 435 - 1 open seat = 434; 218 is a majority.
  • 434 - 1 "present" vote = 433; 217 is a majority.
  • 434 - 3 "present" votes = 431; 216 is a majority.
  • 434 - 5 "present" votes = 429; 215 is a majority.
  • 434 - 7 "present" votes = 427; 214 is a majority.
  • 434 - 9 "present" votes = 425; 213 is a majority.

However! The trick only works up to this point since the Democratic nominee, Rep. Hakeem Jeffries of New York, has had 212 votes. If 11 Republicans voted "present," Jeffries would become House speaker.

That means McCarthy still needs to flip at least 11 Republicans who have voted against him even if the other nine voted “present.” 

There are also other reasons a member-elect could vote "present." Rep. Victoria Spartz of Indiana did it already as a sort of protest of McCarthy. She didn't want to support the hardliners who are trying to block his speakership, but she did want to signal to McCarthy that he needs to wrap this up or move aside.

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I absolutely believe these 20 traitors (yeah, they're Jan 6 supporters, so they're traitors in my mind), don't understand enough about politics and rules and numbers and can't see beyond their own nose, that they could all FAFO and end up with a Democrat Speaker of the House as the minority party.


Re: Speaker of the House Stuffs

  • I honestly hope there’s enough present votes and Jeffries gets elected. I’m no Kevin McCarthy fan but this is all ridiculous. It’s wild they’re taking so long (and this not swearing in new members, doing committee assignments, adopting rules). 
  • If Jeffries got elected that would be so delicious. The GOP might really implode then. 


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  • I hate Matt Gaetz.  He is one of the ones angling for a powerful Committee assignment (I think Armed Forces?) that he has absolutely no business being on.  I also think he's probably angling for a "get out of jail free" card.  Now I'm wondering if this nonsense hasn't been the plan for these 20 traitors all along.  Surely the Republicans who haven't lost their damn minds, won't go along with this nonsense.

    "Rep. Matt Gaetz voted for former President Donald Trump in the speakership election.

    There’s no rule that the speaker is a House member. Members can vote for anyone, and they can protest by skipping the vote or voting “present.” 

    Gaetz has been one of the Republican lawmakers who have not voted for party leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy."

  • I'd love to see the Rs and Ds rally around Liz Cheney instead and loved when that was proposed.

    I would also like to see if Matt Gaetz slips and falls on his hair grease and is unable to continue to perform the duties required of his job and there's a new election needed in FL. 
  • I'm just saying, the Tik Toks on these have made my day. 
  • I have a solid collection of memes going at this point.

    They're on the 9th ballot now, which if it also fails, will make history b/c the last time this happened, it was the 9th ballot that secured the Speakership.  i will say, I love that there are Republicans who also feel like, Fvck Matt Gaetz:

    A normally restrained and reliably conservative member of Congress from a red state summed up the predicament to CNN as: “We’re frustrated as hell."

    The member continued, "This should not be mistaken for overwhelming love for Kevin, but we can’t cave into demands from people who have no interest in governing or any clue how to do it.”

    This Republican, who is supporting McCarthy but losing patience, said that with each passing ballot, it becomes even more difficult for an alternative to successfully emerge.

    A Republican donor and longtime friend of McCarthy, who is watching this drama unfold from the West Coast, offered a similar sentiment, telling CNN: “It’s ironic McCarthy is still standing — not because of any great love for him, but because of burning hatred for [Rep. Matt] Gaetz and his gang.”  

  • My friends have been spamming me with memes, so here you go:

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    May be a Twitter screenshot of 3 people people standing and text that says MT MEIDASTOUCHCOM MeidasTouch MeidasTouch oh no please dont JM Rieger RiegerReport 1h GAETZ If Democrats join up to elect a moderate Republican will resign from the House of Representatives LE NEWS SPEAKER STALEMATE CONTINUES INTO DAY FOXISPEASTALEATECONTNESINTODA4 4 ANGLI HEMING LIVE NEWS ALERT MOMENTS AW
    Fvck, if this is all it takes, I'll support some Dems jumping ship.

    Gah, I can't copy these two for some reason.

    "McCarthy could always just say he won.  Republicans like that sort of thing."

    and

    "I'm just saying CSPAN's Game of Thrones could use some dragons."

    May be an image of 2 people and text that says STOP TRYING TO MAKE MCCARTHY HAPPEN ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

    May be an image of 7 people people standing suit and text that says In Shocking Twist The People Who Wanted To Overthrow Democracy Are Not Good At Running a Democracy

    May be a Twitter screenshot of 2 people and text that says George Conway Okay time for a joke contest Winner is whoever comes up with the best punchline for How many Kevin McCarthys does it take to screw in a light bulb Shawn Garrett S Well he needs a house first 1007

    May be a Twitter screenshot of 1 person and text that says Elie Mystal ElieNYC I am now now calling on ABC to offer Kevin McCarthy his Dancing With The Stars contract NOW so he can leave this fight with dignity 350 PM 23

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  • I literally laughed out loud at "he needs a house first" 

    And i'm with ya Varuna - a moderate republican speaker is probably worth Matt Gaetz getting TF out of here.
  • And also, this is totally me:

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  • I don't believe he'll get out anymore than people are going to move to Canada if (insert thing they don't like happens.)


  • banana468 said:
    I don't believe he'll get out anymore than people are going to move to Canada if (insert thing they don't like happens.)


    Yeah, I know he's lying, but lemme have my fantasy.  :D
  • VarunaTT said:
    banana468 said:
    I don't believe he'll get out anymore than people are going to move to Canada if (insert thing they don't like happens.)


    Yeah, I know he's lying, but lemme have my fantasy.  :D
    Like mine of a slip and fall and a broken bone due to excessive hair grease?  Or maybe he blows out his ear drums from hearing the sound of his own voice too much?


  • Why is this so funny




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  • I'm obsessed with the memes.  But if this isn't resolved by early next week, I'm sure it will no longer be funny and move into desperation mode.  Don Bacon (congressman from NE) is already starting to fret about 2024 and how bad it might be for them.  Waa.  

    I, again, hope Dems seize on this opportunity to find a hook with messaging that they can keep pounding into the ground through 2024.  It can't be that hard.  
  • I will admit to having flashbacks to 2000.  That nonsense is what drove me out of my planned political career.  I definitely remembe waking up every day thinking, do we have a president yet?

    They just went through the 13th ballot and he's getting closer.  I hope some of the convos went like this: You really wanna go down with the rapist/pedophile/horrible human being that Gaetz is?  REALLY?!?! and then some people finally found their mind.
  • I don’t know whether to be happy or sad. 


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