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Break out of going to the breweries.

Dear Prudence,

I have a question about sober etiquette. I’m newly sober, not because of alcoholism but because I’m just making lifestyle changes that prioritize my health, including cutting out the alcohol. It’s good for my physical health and my mental health to be sober, and it isn’t difficult for me to be around alcohol and have water instead. But my friends are craft beer hipsters and love spending our time together at breweries. I don’t go to restaurants if I’m not planning to eat; it seems rude to the establishment and staff that I’m taking up space without spending money. Do I carry that policy over to the breweries? I’m not embarrassed to order water, but due to the alcohol laws in my state, most breweries can’t serve food, so there isn’t an alternative way for me to spend money there, and I don’t see nonalcoholic beverages on the menu.

The first time we went to a brewery since I decided to be sober, I just had water and felt like the staff were unhappy with my presence. I was asked for my order no less than seven times. I thought that the presence of six other people ordering multiple drinks might balance out my non-drinking, but after that, I’m not so sure. My friends and I do non-brewery outings, and I love those (prefer those!) but large group get-togethers are almost all at breweries. I can pitch other ideas and try to encourage us to move away from those, but for now, I’m just wondering if I should sit it out and make my excuses to be elsewhere when they pick a brewery or attend. If I attend, how do I do so without being a nuisance to staff and the establishment?

—Social but Sober

Re: Break out of going to the breweries.

  • LW should at least be tipping for the server's time, but it doesn't excuse rudeness because LW orders just water.  Especially since it's a group that IS spending money.  I agree with asking about NA options.  One would hope if the brewery does have that available, they'd offer it.  
  • I think it may be a case by case basis and you'll also need to suggest other places to go.  If you can, call the brewery in advance.  Ask if they have non alcoholic drinks but also advise that you're a non drinker.

    In some ways I bristle at the way the brewery handled this because I've had two distinct times in my life where I was a non drinker as I grew tiny humans and did not embrace the concept that my non drinking meant that my H and me would not be welcome together.    But I think this may be a 'know the vibe' situation and suggest more bars that have food so you can offer to buy a round of apps or non-alcoholic cocktails instead. 
  • VarunaTTVarunaTT member
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    Also, one of the things talked about a lot in sobriety circle is that the sober person (no matter why they are sober) always feels super self-conscious about not drinking and generally, most decent people do not give AF about it.  So, I'm wondering if LW was just being self-conscious about it because it was the first time.  Because honestly, as a former server, if I was taking one order from a large group, I checked with everyone to see if they needed anything else.  If there was someone truly not ordering something, unless they told me that, I'd really have no way to know and keep checking.
  • That's pretty rude. Have the servers at these breweries never heard of a designated driver?? I have to imagine it's common with a large group of people that it's also not uncommon for one person to not be drinking. 
  • That's pretty rude. Have the servers at these breweries never heard of a designated driver?? I have to imagine it's common with a large group of people that it's also not uncommon for one person to not be drinking. 
    That's probably the quickest answer. "No thanks, I'm the DD." True, even if just for herself.
  • agreed with above - more DD answers and more N.A options for people.

    There's lots of reasons to be sober.
  • Related to this, one of my favorite mocktail 'tenders on Instragram just released a 12 page guide of cards you can cut out to give to your bartender, to make you mocktails.  LW needs to do a bit more digging for options, in my mind, b/c they are definitely out there.   I was super embarassed going to the fancy liquor store in my city to buy NA options.  But the staff was supremely helpful, had no judgement, and even gave me some recommendations.  While talking, the clerk helping me said it was a big growing field and they were happy to keep serving us options.  They gave me a great NA rose that honestly, was just as tasty as a regular rose and it was nice to have the flavor and not be drunk (Nosecco for those who want to know).
  • @VarunaTT that so awesome to hear, i'm so glad you had a good experience! As you try more NA options, i'd love if you kept sharing the brands you like. I'm not ready to commit to being sober necessarily, but I am super interested in cutting back while still having some no alcohol options that aren't soda or sparkling water (which i love, but sometimes you just want something more). 
  • I can’t help but wonder if LW is just being a little sensitive. People bring DDs all the time. Tip for the servers time and really, most breweries have food, or at the very least chips or apps if you’re that worried about it. 


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  • @Casadena The Gruvi brand is the one that I found their Mocha Nitro Stout.  Honestly, you wouldn't know it is different from the alcoholic one at all.  I was laughing that it was going to end up with a placebo effect of drunkeness. Gruvi is also supposed to have an amazing rose.  I haven't tried any of the major brands, but I've heard good things about the NA Corona, Heinken, and one of the Budweiser ones.

    I will say that I've been worried, because so much of the NA beer is hopped and I loathe IPAs.  But Atheletic Brewing has a sour and another stout, as well as some sparking ciders (they are entirely NA brewery) that I've requested the store to bring in.

    I have tried my hand at making mocktails.  It's about 50/50 really.  Some of them use the apple cider vinegar to replicate the "burn" of alcohol has it goes down.  I've found that it's really the flavor complexity I want, not the alcohol burn, so I've been trying other ones.  Weirdly, the mocktails seem like a lot of work for nothing?  I've been pushing that one around in my mind, b/c maybe I don't even like hard alcohol and was just looking for the buzz in more palatable manner.
  • I don't think this is a situation where LW needs to stop going or push the group to choose different locations. They say they're fine around alcohol and don't feel judged by friends. Maybe poke around to find local breweries that do have NA options available and suggest those. I know of one near me doing NA beer, but quite a few near here do craft sodas and flavored seltzers (like le croix). 

    For the server asking if they'd like a drink, "yes, what NA options do you have? Oh, if water is all you have, then guess I'll have water." I do get the food thing. Breweries here can't serve food because of the different types of liquor licensing. It's stupid, but it means more food trucks for me.
  • Teetotaler rec...  "Tip as-if" when in these situations.  The bartender has your back the moment you say that you're there as the Designated Driver or Sober friend!  The way liquor laws and such are written, you are to their benefit to exist and some establishments even have "Sober Drivers Drink NA's Free all night!" policies!  They do have options if you ASK!  Lots of places have Mocktail or Root Beer options, and if they don't, have a recipe in your head ready to go and I've even seen individuals who have it written on business cards they just hand the waiter/ess with a common ingredient Mocktail that even a basically stocked bar will have the components of.  
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