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Wedding Woes

Apparently they're a fully packaged deal

Dear Prudence,

I have been dating “Diane” for several months. She is 24 and has a four year old son “Stevie.” She lives with her parents and works full-time. I enjoy spending time with her and her son, but she has this nasty habit of forgoing arranging child care and just dragging her son along on our dates. These are always activities I have arranged weeks in advance and are not child friendly, like kayaking (we never got in the water) or parties with my friends (my friend had a board game party and Stevie ended up using his markers on the wall).

Diane always claims her sitter backed out at the last minute and she had no choice. I find it hard to believe that it happens so often. I send her reminders and Diane texts me that her mom will be watching Stevie, only to turn up with him. The last time we were attending a local music event that was standing room only and the tickets weren’t cheap. Diane swore up and down that everything was all right. She showed up with a very cranky and tired Stevie. The kid should have been in bed an hour ago.

We ended up having a huge fight. She accused me of calling her a bad mom when I questioned why the hell was Stevie here. I told her she should have just canceled on me. I could have sold the tickets or found someone else to go with. She called me selfish. I told her it shouldn’t be so hard to find a babysitter. My parents had weekly date nights and so did my sister and her husband, and they have three kids! Diane ended up taking Stevie home after he started crying. I ended up selling the tickets to a stranger and going home myself. Diane later apologized, but I honestly don’t know if our relationship should continue. On every other level, Diane and I click, but this habit is frustrating.

Re: Apparently they're a fully packaged deal

  • "Diane I'm happy to have dates with Stevie but if I plan something for just the two of us I'm trusting that you made arrangements with a sitter."

    It may be worth a heart to heart to let her know that you support her and who knows - maybe you can offer to find a sitter too.  There's a ton of social media help that is out there that I use for my own kids but the answer is never to show up with an uninvited kid in tow. 
  • Tell her that you'd like to do both outings with her kid, and dates just the two of you. But that the dates with the two of you need to be just that. If she can't agree, break it off. 
  • You’re either going to break it off for a) her bringing her kid everywhere or b) her canceling everything because she can’t bring her kid everywhere.
    eh, just break it oft now

  • This guy needs to learn his lesson.  Stop inviting her to events that Stevie can't go to, especially if money needs to be laid out.  And if that means she is no longer the right person for him, then oh well.  Break up with her so they can both move on to more compatible partners.

    As an aside, that was really rude of him to take Stevie to his friend's game night party.  Just like he was annoyed when Diane unexpectedly showed up with Stevie, I guarantee you his friends were 10x more annoyed.  Especially since no one was watching him well enough to keep him from getting his hands on markers.  And if those friends don't have their home child-proofed, this story could have been much more disastrous.

    For a fun story, my parents had game nights all the time when they were in their 20s.  But they and all their friends had young children, so it was understood children would be coming also.  When I was an old enough to understand they were playing games (3-4 years old), I insisted on playing also!  They would give me a dice cup with some dice in it.  And I would happily spend a couple hours just rolling my dice over and over again.  My mom said it worked great until I got old enough to start realizing I wasn't playing a game with them, lol.
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  • I would've walked already, IDK why this dude hasn't.  She's already showing you what she thinks of you and how you fit into her life, so either decide that's what you like or walk.  It's really way more simple than OP is making it out to be.
  • My man, this is not going to work. Break it off now. Personally I feel like this is a red flag on her part. She doesn’t even seem apologetic. I know stuff happens. But every single time? I’d be bummed if my own child’s sitter backed out on my date night. 


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  • LOL. Dude. Break it off. You guys can't communicate about this and it doesn't seem like it's going to change.
  • She is a bad mom! So break up
    With her. 
  • ei34ei34 member
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    I'd break up.  Sitters cancel last minute more often than one might think, but it sounds like Diane isn't even trying to find one.  
  • I half-wonder if there's some parental guilt that Diane has.  LW doesn't say it but having a baby at 20 these days means you're a pretty young mom and I'm curious if the lack of finding a sitter is linked to any guilt about leaving the kid especially if she works.  It's just a thought but it's something sticking out. 

    She's doing the kid no favors and if she brings him to places where he writes on the walls there are major issues but I'm curious if there are layers to this onion that need to be peeled back so she gets that there are times the kid is welcome - but it's not ALL the time and she needs to be clear about her feelings with why the sitter doesn't materialize ever. 
  • banana468 said:
    I half-wonder if there's some parental guilt that Diane has.  LW doesn't say it but having a baby at 20 these days means you're a pretty young mom and I'm curious if the lack of finding a sitter is linked to any guilt about leaving the kid especially if she works.  It's just a thought but it's something sticking out. 

    She's doing the kid no favors and if she brings him to places where he writes on the walls there are major issues but I'm curious if there are layers to this onion that need to be peeled back so she gets that there are times the kid is welcome - but it's not ALL the time and she needs to be clear about her feelings with why the sitter doesn't materialize ever. 
    Eh, I’m getting more entitlement vibes than guilt vibes. 


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  • banana468 said:
    I half-wonder if there's some parental guilt that Diane has.  LW doesn't say it but having a baby at 20 these days means you're a pretty young mom and I'm curious if the lack of finding a sitter is linked to any guilt about leaving the kid especially if she works.  It's just a thought but it's something sticking out. 

    She's doing the kid no favors and if she brings him to places where he writes on the walls there are major issues but I'm curious if there are layers to this onion that need to be peeled back so she gets that there are times the kid is welcome - but it's not ALL the time and she needs to be clear about her feelings with why the sitter doesn't materialize ever. 
    This is what I’m thinking. 

    Maybe she doesn’t have money for really reliable sitters. Maybe she feels bad leaving him if she’s working. Maybe she just feels like kids belong everywhere (obviously they don’t but not ever sees that). 

    BUT that doesn’t mean LW has to stick around and figure that out with her. If he’s fed up he should break it off. He he wants to try I’d say 1) at least for now plan dates where if she brings him it’s not the worst thing in the world and 2) try and have a conversation to get at why she keeps having sitter issues. If she’s asking people to do it for free I’m not surprised people are backing out last minute. 
  • @levioosa I think it's sheer entitlement that she's opting to just show up with him and she's completely socially inept to think that there's no repercussion to this.

    But it's not adding up to me that she's taking a 4 yo who needs more time and sleep.  It's why if I had to guess, she works and she's taking him out in those few hours they have together but she's not realizing that it's a terrible thing for EVERYONE when she does it.


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