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you can't help ppl who won't help themselves

How do you handle friends who constantly complain, but do nothing to fix the issues they’re complaining about? To be clear, I’m not saying I don’t ever want to hear them complain. We all need to vent, we all have things that annoy us that we can’t fix, and sometimes we just need to bitch. But I have two friends in particular that complain all of the time, and for the most part, it’s about things that they can actually do something about. One friend, “Cara,” never, ever stands up for herself, and I constantly have to hear about how people are shitty to her, but she does nothing about it. Most recently, a few weeks ago, she was talking about how she was trying to plan a long-weekend trip with another friend of hers. The friend was being really difficult (and has a history of just making things miserable), and Cara was frustrated. I told Cara that she should just cancel. She didn’t, and sure enough, I’m getting texts while she’s away about how awful the other friend was being. I know that may not sound too bad, but this is what it’s always like with Cara, and frankly, I’m tired of hearing about what she chooses to put up with.

Another friend, “Connie,” seemingly complains … because she likes to suffer? For instance, for over a month now, she’s been talking about how her shoulder is bothering her, and demonstrating how she can’t lift it, etc. I’ve asked her multiple times if she’s made a doctor’s appointment, and she makes excuses (doesn’t have time, doesn’t even know what doctor to go to, etc.). It’s not an insurance/job problem—I used to work at the office she’s at, and so I know for a fact they provide good health insurance, and are flexible and understanding about medical issues. Once, we were sitting outside having drinks, and she complained about being too warm. I asked her why she didn’t just take her jacket off, and she actually said she didn’t want to because it was her first chance to wear it. Then continued to whine about being hot. I feel like I’m reaching my breaking point where I’m going to end up snapping at Cara and/or Connie soon. How do I deal with this to keep it from getting to that?

—Fix It, or Shut It

Re: you can't help ppl who won't help themselves

  • "I don't really want to discuss this topic anymore. Let's move on. Have you tried the bean dip?"

    The jacket thing is incredible lol. I would probably have said, "Connie if you won't take your jacket off you're going to keep being hot. If you won't take it off I can't help you so let's discuss something else."

    I have more empathy for "for the sake of X relationship I don't think I can say no to a trip I won't enjoy." Not much more, because she could and should still say no, but the solution isn't as clear-cut and without relationship ramifications as taking off a dang jacket
  • You don't have to be friends with them, LW. Unless maybe it gives you something to complain about to your other friends?

    I have a friend like this. My solution was just to spend less time with her. She's much more bearable when I only see her a few times a year. 
  • I'd back off these friendships.  It sounds like both of these people annoy the LW every time they talk to or hang out with them.  So stop doing that or at least cut it way back.

    It sounds counter intuitive, but some people really enjoy complaining.  It's usually sub-conscious, but they do.

    My joke for that type of person is, "If they won the lottery, the first thing they'd do is complain about all the taxes taken out of their winnings."
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  • Casadena said:

    Another friend, “Connie,” seemingly complains … because she likes to suffer? For instance, for over a month now, she’s been talking about how her shoulder is bothering her, and demonstrating how she can’t lift it, etc. I’ve asked her multiple times if she’s made a doctor’s appointment, and she makes excuses (doesn’t have time, doesn’t even know what doctor to go to, etc.). It’s not an insurance/job problem—I used to work at the office she’s at, and so I know for a fact they provide good health insurance, and are flexible and understanding about medical issues.

    —Fix It, or Shut It

    Hi.  I’m just here to say I’m Connie.  My reasoning?  I just thought it would eventually fix itself! I had so many ailments that come and go. 

    Anyway, I feel like this what friends do.  Listen, nod and move on. 

  • I have one really close friend and we have kids of similar ages. One of the most helpful things we do when the other is venting about something is the classic "do you want advice or do you just need to vent for a minute?" Maybe something like this could help, but otherwise a "yeah that sucks" and move on is probably best if you want to stay friends with these people. 
  • It's important to maintain healthy boundaries in any relationship, even with challenging friends. If being around someone isn't enjoyable, it's perfectly fine to limit your interactions and focus on the connections that bring you joy.
  • With texts, not every text requires/deserves a response.  Sometimes I will wait.  If nothing follows, I assume it was a vent.  If a second text follows, I might just give it a "thumbs down", sad face, or a quick, "I'm sorry". 

    For "repeat" whining, as in the case of constantly complaining about a medical issue and not taking any advice, I might say, "That stinks you are not improving" and change the subject.  If I have offered suggestions/advice I know has not been taken, I might even say, "I gave you all my best ideas" and also change the subject.

    When all else fails, I take my complaints to my venting buddy LOL
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