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He clearly sobered up and saw the 'light', but do you want to work with him again?

Dear Prudence,

I’m a millennial woman who works in the arts. I’ve hosted many public talks in my community. I recently attended a corporate empowerment summit for professionals from marginalized groups, where I was offered a modest speaking fee and hotel stay to moderate a panel with entrepreneurs from very different industries. The organizer asked me to be friendly and conversational; so, I threw in pop culture references to keep things light. I joked about the coffee being strong. I even got a stoic interview subject to tear up when I asked about his mentors. Several attendees told me my talk was fun and engaging!

But I also got some negative feedback, which seemed a bit … generationally motivated. One woman quizzed me on my industry bonafides; another woman, who is a banker, loudly asked to curate next year’s summit for “people who actually belong” there. At the closing party, the organizer (drunkenly) told me that I seemed “uncomfortable” and “out of my element.” I actually thought it went fine, until he added that I should hire a speaking coach! When this organizer recruited me for the event, he stressed that he wanted more young people to participate. But I left feeling incredibly alienated, and utterly confused when he wrote to thank me and invite me back next year. How do I even address this person, let alone send my invoice?

—This Ain’t No Country Club

Re: He clearly sobered up and saw the 'light', but do you want to work with him again?

  • I think you may want to just ask the organizer for specific feedback.  In some ways you may want to know your audience as the pop culture references may fall flat.  However there may also be a divide amongst the attendees.  So try to figure out what the deal is and maybe this is a group you stay away from. 
  • Sending the invoice is the easiest part.  It's a set fee and whatever expenses agreed to and not already paid for.  Just because he gave some unkind, drunken feedback shouldn't make the LW feel bad about getting paid.

    It really depends on if the LW wants to go back as to how they should respond, ie yes or no about attending again.  But either response should include a professional thank-you back.  They could also include things they believe went well and things that can be improved.

    I think it's best to just ignore what the guy said if they aren't going to attend again.  If they are, they could bring it up in a constructive criticism way but only if they want to.  Like, "You said 'that', but I felt 'this'.  What are some ways I can improve."  This would probably be better as a phone conversation.
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  • I have mixed feelings on this. I think I'd need to know a little more info. I also desperately need to know what pop culture references she made and the average age group of the attendees.


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  • Maybe the organizer realized they took, like, 2 people's opinions and blew them way out of proportion.  Squeaky wheels got the grease in the moment and he regretted it after.  But if they extended an invite for the future, then take the feedback, good and bad, and ASK the organizer how you could make it more inclusive the next time. 
  • levioosa said:
    I have mixed feelings on this. I think I'd need to know a little more info. I also desperately need to know what pop culture references she made and the average age group of the attendees.
    Right?  If I'm addressing a group that has a larger presence of Boomers I'm likely not going to say, "Well I've got a blank space and I'll write your name," because I don't think they'd get it.

    It's making me think of the conversation that I had with Chiquita - and sometimes tailoring how you behave to the group you're in does not mean you're changing your personality but knowing your audience.
  • banana468 said:
    levioosa said:
    I have mixed feelings on this. I think I'd need to know a little more info. I also desperately need to know what pop culture references she made and the average age group of the attendees.
    Right?  If I'm addressing a group that has a larger presence of Boomers I'm likely not going to say, "Well I've got a blank space and I'll write your name," because I don't think they'd get it.

    It's making me think of the conversation that I had with Chiquita - and sometimes tailoring how you behave to the group you're in does not mean you're changing your personality but knowing your audience.
    Yes, I also kind of want to know what the topic of conversation was, and how LW fits into it. For example, I know someone who recently spoke at a conference, and I truly do not think they had any business presenting there. They basically forced their way in. Every other single speaker was a powerful STEM woman with loads of research and work experience, appropriately speaking in their respective fields...and then...there they were, without any real science or medical experience or real research background. I'm really not trying to bash, but even their bio was not up to par with anyone else there and I am sure there were many attendees who thought, "um...why exactly are we hearing this?" 


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  • levioosa said:
    banana468 said:
    levioosa said:
    I have mixed feelings on this. I think I'd need to know a little more info. I also desperately need to know what pop culture references she made and the average age group of the attendees.
    Right?  If I'm addressing a group that has a larger presence of Boomers I'm likely not going to say, "Well I've got a blank space and I'll write your name," because I don't think they'd get it.

    It's making me think of the conversation that I had with Chiquita - and sometimes tailoring how you behave to the group you're in does not mean you're changing your personality but knowing your audience.
    Yes, I also kind of want to know what the topic of conversation was, and how LW fits into it. For example, I know someone who recently spoke at a conference, and I truly do not think they had any business presenting there. They basically forced their way in. Every other single speaker was a powerful STEM woman with loads of research and work experience, appropriately speaking in their respective fields...and then...there they were, without any real science or medical experience or real research background. I'm really not trying to bash, but even their bio was not up to par with anyone else there and I am sure there were many attendees who thought, "um...why exactly are we hearing this?" 
    The LW seemed to think it was age and that does make sense.

    But the letter also mentioned it was people from very different industries.  I wondered if that might have been part of it also.  
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  • You send the invoice the way you do for all events and expect your full payment. 

    But why are you giving a few jerks’ feedback more weight than the panelists, the attendees who said they enjoyed, and the interview who is generally stoic? That’s all feedback too. 

    That said- if you do want more information on how it went over email the organizer and say you appreciate the opportunity and would be open to moderating again and ask if there’s any changes they’d like to see in the future. 
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