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You confronted Jane, and now you need to let it go for your sake.

Dear Prudence, 

My high school reunion was last weekend, and I ran into a former long-time bully (she bullied me for 12 years straight). Apparently “Jane” is now the nicest person in the world, but I don’t care. When she approached me and hilariously acted like we’d been good friends who just lost touch, I publicly reminded her that she conducted “polling” that all showed my classmates wanted me to kill myself. She also paid boys to grab my breasts in the cafeteria and laugh. No adult did anything, of course. I also reminded Jane that she was awful to me for over a decade, especially during a period when she was closer to being an adult than a child. I was very intentionally NOT mean, and my tone was matter-of-fact. I never yelled, but I didn’t lower my voice when we were in a group of people.

Jane did WAY more bullying than that. I cannot even begin to describe how much pain and anguish I endured AND I really was considering suicide for most of that 12-year period, which I told her. Therapy has addressed some of that pain, but it hasn’t completely gone away. Jane got upset and cried, and she tried to apologize, but I didn’t care. Nothing will undo what she did, and an apology is so disproportionate to the damage she inflicted. I told her this. After the reunion, Jane emailed me another apology, and it came off as really desperate. It seems as though I remind her that she’s not really the saint she is today. Do I owe her anything at this point? I’m not sorry about what I said. She deserves to live with some of the pain she caused that I’ve been carrying.

—The Ex Bully Is Still No Saint


Re: You confronted Jane, and now you need to let it go for your sake.

  • Yeah - there seems to be a desire here to make Jane feel like she made you feel.  And you know how badly you felt - why do you want someone else to feel the same way? 

    I'm not saying that Jane didn't know right from wrong at that age but there is a major difference between how adolescents behave and how a grown adult behaves.   My statement is not condoning her actions but a comment that Jane gets to grow and change and the LW does as well.  LW's actions now should not be those of a HS student. 
  • Hurt people hurt people hurt people. What Jane did was incredibly awful, and it was probably borne out of something in her home life if it was happening in high school. It doesn't make it right, but for all you know she has put in the work and she has changed. You don't have to think of her as the nicest person, and you don't have to continue to engage with her, but trying to hurt her back isn't great either and it's a sign that you haven't healed as much as you think you have. I get it, bullying is hard. But if your gut response is this...you probably need some more therapy.


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  • I don't feel the LW bullied Jane.  She laid down some harsh truths about what had really happened in school, but I wouldn't call that bullying.  It was also in response to Jane trying to be chummy.  The LW didn't go up to Jane out of the blue and do that.

    There was probably a bit of trying to inflict hurt, but I think most of it was cathartic for the LW.

    Jane still sucks, at least to some degree.  There was NO reason for her to e-mail the LW, except to make herself feel better.  Jane already knows the LW doesn't want to hear from her and it just causes a memory of pain.  It was another form of cruelty under the guise of "apology".

    The LW got some closure at the reunion.  She shouldn't respond to Jane's e-mail and just block her instead.
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  • I don't think the LW is bullying but I think the LW is also not moving on.  It's not an ESH but this stick out text: "Jane got upset and cried, and she tried to apologize, but I didn’t care. Nothing will undo what she did, and an apology is so disproportionate to the damage she inflicted. I told her this. After the reunion, Jane emailed me another apology, and it came off as really desperate. It seems as though I remind her that she’s not really the saint she is today. Do I owe her anything at this point? I’m not sorry about what I said. She deserves to live with some of the pain she caused that I’ve been carrying." 

    It gives the impression to me that the LW doesn't want to forgive - they want Jane to feel hurt.   I have been bullied and hurt and yeah there's a part of me that wants to see Chiquita's bully get publicly humiliated - but really I want to see him move on to not hurt people.    And I also think if in 10 years he apologizes she needs to act like someone in her 20s and not her teens and move on. 
  • VarunaTTVarunaTT member
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    edited August 2024
    @banana468 That's the part I was responding to.  I think what LW told Jane is perfectly fine.  I think Jane even reaching out one more time in a more personal and one-on-one manner, rather than in front of a crowd, was fine.

    It's the "she's not the saint" and "live with the pain".  Jane is taking up a lot of space rent-free in LW's head and Jane will probably forget about this or find closure on her own and LW is still stuck there.  LW deserves better for herself, from herself.  Block and ignore Jane, and get the help she needs to get Jane out of her head.

    ETA:  I was re-reading @short+sassy and I don't think it was cathartic for LW at all and that's the problem to me.
  • I don't feel the LW bullied Jane.  She laid down some harsh truths about what had really happened in school, but I wouldn't call that bullying.  It was also in response to Jane trying to be chummy.  The LW didn't go up to Jane out of the blue and do that.

    There was probably a bit of trying to inflict hurt, but I think most of it was cathartic for the LW.

    Jane still sucks, at least to some degree.  There was NO reason for her to e-mail the LW, except to make herself feel better.  Jane already knows the LW doesn't want to hear from her and it just causes a memory of pain.  It was another form of cruelty under the guise of "apology".

    The LW got some closure at the reunion.  She shouldn't respond to Jane's e-mail and just block her instead.
    Except that LW continues to perseverate on the interaction and her last sentence is pretty indicative that she wants Jane to hurt. I don't think it was nearly as cathartic as she pretends. 

    I was bullied pretty badly in high school. It honestly forever changed who I was as a person and it took a really long time to work through it and heal. If I saw one of my bullies now, my instinct wouldn't be to tell them how awful they were. In fact, the older I got, the more I realized how most of them had some really shitty home stuff going on and that was definitely bleeding out into their school life. If any one of them actually ever apologized, I also wouldn't feel like I needed "to hurt them" to make them see how much I had been hurt. It's over and done with. Of course an apology would be nice, but that's never going to happen. LW isn't moving forward. They're perseverating on the past and it's causing them more distress. 


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  • ei34ei34 member
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    I read it as a five year HS reunion, so LW is 22-23? Bc it’s immature.  Not how LW calmly let Jane know her impact. But the inability to let go of wanting Jane to feel hurt, and letting Jane still take up so much space. Therapy asap.

    And ironically one of my biggest middle school bullies (and we went to different HS’s but she did her best to still dig her fangs in whenever and however she could, even if we ran into each other at college age) is now a super zen, good vibes only, yoga instructor living in CA. A far cry from the cruel person she was. I guess some
    people (like Jane) really turn a different leaf? I don’t know. 
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