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Let me introduce you to boundaries.

Dear Prudence, 

My father is obsessed with the college application process. My senior year of high school included multiple early morning wake ups when he had decided that I should apply to another school and enormous fights as he railed about how I could enhance my chances of admission. I note that his efforts did not include the common sense help that an involved parent might ordinarily provide, like advice on course selection in high school or proofreading essays. I ultimately chose the same extremely prestigious college he had attended, which made him happy. I had a decidedly mixed experience.

My wife went to an excellent but lesser known school. She had an outstanding experience and was subsequently admitted to every elite medical school in the country. My professional life has also shown me that people coming from various schools and backgrounds achieve personal and financial success. Suffice to say that my view of how and why one should choose a school is different from my father’s. As my daughter entered high school, I began to see signs that he would seek an even higher level of involvement in her college process than he had in mine. In addition to repeatedly trying to discuss details of her (then years in the future) college process with me, he drafted several well-researched memoranda about how and to where she should apply. They merged into crazy territory, including insistence that she should apply binding early decision to a particular school that he had selected based on the statistical likelihood of her being admitted, rather than the extent to which the school matched her preferences (which he didn’t bother to ask about).

I recognized this behavior as emotionally, and likely practically, harmful and asked him to stop. We ultimately agreed that I would hire a private college counselor, which I consider unnecessary because my daughter’s private school provides excellent college guidance, and he would thereafter stay out of the process. I hired them and went silent on all information related to college. The memos, however, have kept coming. They do nothing other than increase my anxiety and damage his relationship with me, my wife, our daughter, and our younger son. As our daughter enters her senior year, I have repeatedly reminded him of our deal and told him that I do not want his input, but it makes no difference. What can I say or do?

—Trying to Keep Things In Perspective

Re: Let me introduce you to boundaries.

  • It's pretty clear that he's not going to stop sending them, no matter what you do. So you stop reading them. Make sure your kids never see these memos. If that means blocking him from their email or limiting contact, do that. Your wife can probably handle ignoring them without your intervention. 
  • I'm glad the LW is protecting the daughter from this, at least to some extent.  But they still need to grow more of a backbone.  Paying money to a private college counselor for no other reason than to get the dad of their back.  Really?  And then it didn't even work.

    The LW needs to tell the dad that college is now an off limits subject and no one in the family will engage with him on it anymore.  Stick to it and end conversations when it starts.  Leave if it is done, in person.
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  • ei34ei34 member
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    As I was skimming the first paragraph I thought LW was in their senior year of HS! Yeah, time for some boundaries.  Is dad paying your daughter’s college tuition or something? Why are you letting him be so involved?! 
  • ei34 said:
    As I was skimming the first paragraph I thought LW was in their senior year of HS! Yeah, time for some boundaries.  Is dad paying your daughter’s college tuition or something? Why are you letting him be so involved?! 
    Some families are crazy like that. My grandfather was a little like this except it was all verbal pressure. My aunt called my college guidance counselor to try and manipulate my schedule to something she saw as more beneficial and when I showed up to my appointment my counselor was like, "so this is awkward...but I just got off the phone with your aunt who was extremely forceful..." Poor LW and his daughter. 


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  • ei34 said:
    As I was skimming the first paragraph I thought LW was in their senior year of HS! Yeah, time for some boundaries.  Is dad paying your daughter’s college tuition or something? Why are you letting him be so involved?! 
    This. 

    Also, this is rich people problems.  

    But I appreciate LW wanting to protect daughter from the pressure they were under during this process.  

    And if he's sending texts, mute them.  If they're email 'memos' make a rule that they go into a folder before they ever hit your inbox.  If he asks, tell him things are 'moving along' or 'going fine' and change the subject. 
  • ei34ei34 member
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    levioosa said:
    ei34 said:
    As I was skimming the first paragraph I thought LW was in their senior year of HS! Yeah, time for some boundaries.  Is dad paying your daughter’s college tuition or something? Why are you letting him be so involved?! 
    Some families are crazy like that. My grandfather was a little like this except it was all verbal pressure. My aunt called my college guidance counselor to try and manipulate my schedule to something she saw as more beneficial and when I showed up to my appointment my counselor was like, "so this is awkward...but I just got off the phone with your aunt who was extremely forceful..." Poor LW and his daughter. 
    I believe it! I’ve received the occasional email from super random relatives of students over the years. I’m just confused at LW…this bothers you enough to write to Prudie. Makes me wonder if they’ve ever had a real talk with dad, or it’s just something deal with and vent about. 
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