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Wedding Woes

You get to leave if you want

For various reasons, travel, work. My husband and I only lived together a couple of months before our marriage two years ago. Huge mistake. We were friends for a decade and dated nearly three years before marriage, so we thought it would be fine. I’m now in a position where I’m literally about to divorce the man I love over housework. He identifies as a feminist. He claims to understand concepts like the mental load, yet every single day, I am the one who does the dishes. He leaves them indefinitely. I went away for a weekend once and found the plates we’d used on Friday still out and dirty. On Monday, I do laundry. I remind him to take the trash out, usually repeatedly and often do it myself when it’s clear he has forgotten or isn’t going to do it. I vacuum. I dust everything apart from the cooking, which I do about 70% of, partly because I hate how when he cooks, he leaves the kitchen looking like a bombsight for me to clean. I asked, nagged, begged, give gentle reminders, and took us to a couple’s counselor about this. The counselor suggested I adjust my expectations since, as my husband pointed out, men don’t typically notice these things. For what it’s worth, I’m also the primary earner. I’m a paralegal and work long hours, often coming home exhausted to find him playing video games. He works in a restaurant where, ironically, many of his duties involve cleaning and hygiene.

He used to say that he had to do the cleaning at work so he shouldn’t have to do it at home too. He recently started a conversation about having kids, something I’ve always wanted. I said a flat no and told him the reason was that I was already exhausted from doing our current housework and the thought of single handedly doing it for A child too made me want to die. He seemed truly shocked, as though he hasn’t seen me sobbing about my exhaustion or pleading with him to just do the laundry when he says he will. So I have clean clothes for the morning. The shock of this seemed to kick him into gear. And suddenly he’s doing housework. Still not as much as me, but a lot. Those dishes he couldn’t see are suddenly visible. Laundry is done without 10 reminders. But I still want to leave. I was quietly consulting a divorce lawyer when he raised the issue of children. I feel like now I should be happy. I still love him. He makes me laugh and he does thoughtful, romantic things for me, but I’m actually angrier now. It seems like he can see the housework that needs doing and step up for it. He just needed to want to enough. And apparently seeing me crying and exhausted didn’t motivate him at all. I’m sick of feeling angry and resentful. Would it be crazy or stubborn of me to pursue a divorce anyway, or should I try again to heal things? My family loves him and would think this is crazy, but my friends would be supportive. They’ve heard me literally crying about this already and seemed to care more than he did.

Re: You get to leave if you want

  • It's up to you.  It is okay to leave -- my exH tried this.  He even said, "I know you've given ultimatums before and I didn't change for real, but this time is different."  But it was too late, I didn't want the relationship, or him, in my life anymore and I fundamentally couldn't trust that he c/would change or that it would remain a real constant change, and not just another "keep her happy until she won't notice again".  It's also okay to try again if you want to.  Take the time you need to examine your feelings and take action.  TBH, if you're already been speaking with a divorce attorney?  It's probably too far gone, but again OP's decision.
  • I have issues with this and it's actually on my list of grievances but it's nowhere near this bad.

    Do not fall for this behavior.  I'd be really clear that it's not "good" it's just better.

    I know in my own home I have to state that I'm not OK with my choices are either do it or learn to live with mess. 
  • ei34ei34 member
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    I'd also leave.  Couples' counseling and outwardly sobbing didn't help, he is doing better now only because he wants something.  
  • This sounds like my ex. ‘Cept he said he had to clean SO MUCH as a kid, he shouldn’t do it as an adult. Like there’s a timestamp on when you can stop cleaning? 
    Leave because i think it’s just not sinking in and never will. 

  • Oh if I've cleaned too much already that's GREAT.  I'll just stop right now.  Underpants be DAMNED. 
  • VarunaTT said:
    It's up to you.  It is okay to leave -- my exH tried this.  He even said, "I know you've given ultimatums before and I didn't change for real, but this time is different."  But it was too late, I didn't want the relationship, or him, in my life anymore and I fundamentally couldn't trust that he c/would change or that it would remain a real constant change, and not just another "keep her happy until she won't notice again".  It's also okay to try again if you want to.  Take the time you need to examine your feelings and take action.  TBH, if you're already been speaking with a divorce attorney?  It's probably too far gone, but again OP's decision.
    Not over cleaning, but this hits so strongly with a longtime ex-boyfriend I had.  His completely irrational jealousy, which he used to unfairly control me, had always been the biggest issue in our relationship.

    I begged him so many times to at least control it better because he knew how much it would upset me and it was harming our relationship.  He fully admitted I'd never given him any reason to feel jealous, but he just did.  That it was a problem he had and he was over the top with it.  Not as over the top as I thought he was, but he could see some of it.

    Yet, there were always ultimatums.  "if I really loved him, I wouldn't do XYZ and he would break up with me if I did."  "XYZ" could be something as simple going to some bars for a girls' night.

    I would feel a sense of panic and loss when he threatened to break up with me and would capitulate.  Until the time I didn't.  I felt relief.  I calmly told him that I thought breaking up with me over something minor was ridiculous, but I was going anyway and if he needed to break up with me over it then that's his choice.

    I take conversations like that and ending things very seriously.  It never occurred to me he'd been bluffing.  But that's exactly what he'd been doing the whole time, because he started quickly backtracking.  It was like I could feel any love I had left for him completely dissolve in that moment.

    We'd lived in the same town, until I moved 45 minutes away for college.  He'd always been too jealous, but that was when we started fighting more about it.  That was over the phone because we usually only saw each other on the weekend.  I broke up with him the next time I saw him in person.  I told him I couldn't take the jealousy anymore.  We fought too much about it and it was stressing both of us out.  We were no longer right for each other.

    He started promising to do all the things I'd been begging him for over the previous two years.  Just sad he waited until I was DONE with an exclamation point before he wanted to try.  It was way too late for me by then.
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