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CasadenaCasadena member
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Dear Prudence,

My friends Lucy and Olive have met a few times over the years. A few weeks ago, I hosted a party where they saw each other for the first time in a long time. I recently discovered that Lucy shared her struggle to find a job, so Olive recommended her for a one-year contract position at her workplace.

We’re all in our mid-20s. Olive is killing it at her corporate job. She was recently promoted and oversees a small team. Lucy’s more of a free spirit. She’s had a few short-term jobs since graduating college. She lives with her parents and travels abroad a lot, but I know she’s pretty unhappy and feels down about struggling to land a full-time job.

Lucy told me the biggest downside of this job is the really long contract term (her words, not mine). I expect she’ll quickly ask for time off to travel and won’t complete the full year, as she’s done this with previous jobs. I love my friend, but I know work isn’t her priority. And I worry it will reflect poorly on Olive, who really cares about her job. Should I give Olive a heads-up about what I know? Have a conversation with Lucy before she accepts the job? Or should I just stay out of it?

—Concerned Friend

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Re: Stay out of it

  • VarunaTTVarunaTT member
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    The time to tell Olive is past.  Stay out of it now.
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  • MyNameIsNotMyNameIsNot member
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    Mind your business. 

    If Olive really is killing it in corporate, she's savvy enough to know the potential downsides of being a professional reference for someone you only know socially. She may have made the recommendation knowing that it wouldn't matter if it didn't work out (sometimes you bring in a ton of short term contractors because you just need butts in seats, and you know half of them aren't going to work out.) If she's not that savvy, it's good to get this lesson early in her career. 
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  • charlotte989875charlotte989875 member
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    It’s not like you told Olive to hire her- she made that decision on her own. Stay out of that part of it

    The only place I’d see LW is if Lucy complains about the long term nature of the contract AND is upset she can’t find full time work maybe make the connection for her that taking time off, working for a little then quitting could be what’s impacting her ability to find a full time job. 
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  • short+sassyshort+sassy member
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    I would lightly say something to Lucy only.  Like pointing out the obvious.  She can have the flexibility that comes with short-term assignments or she can get a permanent, f/t position that will have limited vacation time.  But you generally can't have both, so she needs to think about what she really wants.

    Also tell her If she does decide she truly wants a permanent f/t job, this contract could be the opportunity she is looking for.  If they are pleased with her work and attendance, she'd almost be a shoo-in if they have a permanent position open up that matches her skill set.

    Not impossible, but I find it hard to believe that this job doesn't allow for some time off.  It might be unpaid and people couldn't be excessive with it, but it's unreasonable to not allow any days off for a whole year.  
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  • banana468banana468 member
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    I'm team stay out of it but if there are complaints again about the time on the contract you can mention that breaking contracts is something that can be noted by a reference if contacted by future employers.  

    And if she brings up more of a complaint again you can ask what she may be looking for in a LT position.  
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