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Where the heck do you work?

Dear Prudence,

I am lucky enough to work with three of my amazing friends. We often travel together and have been able to have some really memorable adventures. We have a huge trip planned for three months across East Asia, which has been booked and paid for, and took almost a year and a half to plan. It will include us working on some days while abroad. This schedule has been meticulously planned by us, and our managers have signed off on it since we are not missing any big deadlines or meetings.

Friend A and I have spouses, and friends B and C are engaged. All of our partners travel for work and by some miracle, we have been able to work it out so that they will be able to meet up with us for roughly 10 days of each month we are away.

The problem lies in C’s wedding planning. She has decided she must get married at the start of the third month we are away. She wants us to start cancelling things and eat the costs of non-refundable deposits and, in some cases, full payments. This has now affected our friendship. We and our partners have tried discussing things, but ultimately, it devolves into the start of an argument, and I leave. A, B, and I have no intention of going to the wedding or even attempting to salvage the friendship anymore. A and B feel we owe it to ourselves and C to have one more conversation to try and at least end on “agreeing to disagree” terms. I don’t care anymore. I have been biting my tongue and not saying what I want for a long time now. I know I can be downright evil and can say cutting things. This is why I choose to walk away from arguments. Do I just go with them one more time and hope I can bite my tongue, or let them know I really don’t think I can this time?

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Re: Where the heck do you work?

  • levioosalevioosa member
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    Oof. Also what on earth what friend C thinking with last minute planning a wedding like that? Sure life happens but I would gracefully bow out of the trip and accept there were deposits I would lose, not try and force multiple people to cancel their trip. 


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  • This is odd all around.

    But ultimately a 3 month vacation that came with nonrefundable deposits means that the person who wants out owns those deposits.  

    So much of this is so weird to me it's hard for me to wrap my arms around the advice to give to people who have the means to plan 3 month vacations but not consider their friends' timing for wedding planning. 
  • I dunno.  I'm just not buying that all 8 of these people, including the partners, have a corporate jet setting lifestyle that somehow coincidentally means they will all be in/around East Asia on three different occasions across three months.

    Maybe the four friends since they work for the same company, but not their partners who I assume work for four different companies.

    But if this is a real letter and "C" ends up leaving the company over the friendship falling apart, I'd like to throw my hat/resume in the ring to replace her, lol.
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  • Yah I mean C sucks so if you don’t want to do one last ditch effort to save things then don’t. If A and B want to that’s on them. You don’t have to but you shouldn’t stop them either. 

    But also yes what in the world do you do for work?? I’m trying to get one of my employees to work from Spain for like a week while they’re visiting family where they have dual citizenship and are authorized to work. 
  • VarunaTTVarunaTT member
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    Technically, I think I could do this.  My manager has already said that as long as I'm in a US state, I don't even have to tell her if I'm traveling while WFH.  I **think** my only restrictions would be if I spend a certain amount of time in CA, I could start messing things up, but it's like 6 months and again...I'd have to tell them.  I am allowed to work remotely in another country, but I have a lot of hoops to jump through to do it because of labor/tax issues.  This is why I kinda have a plan that when my mother dies, I might let a trusted friend stay in the house as a carekeeper and just start driving around the nation, visiting every state/national park my heart desires.  I even have a friend in mind and have discussed it with them.

    C is welcome to do what she wants, but that doesn't mean A and B have to as well.  C needs a CTJ talk about her wedding is not as important to anyone else as it is to her and presumably her future spouse.
  • levioosalevioosa member
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    @VarunaTT my aunt is in law too and her firm lets her work from anywhere. She literally travels the world and just hotspots in where ever she is. A true unicorn job (yes okay I’m jealous, lol). 


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  • levioosa said:
    @VarunaTT my aunt is in law too and her firm lets her work from anywhere. She literally travels the world and just hotspots in where ever she is. A true unicorn job (yes okay I’m jealous, lol). 
    Yup. I work at a bank and working more than a few days in somewhere we don’t have operations it triggers so many regulations and tax implications. It’s trash because my group is remote- I don’t care where they’re working from. 
  • CharmedPamCharmedPam member
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    edited July 24
    My friend works from home, but she works for a state job (not my state), she was getting her home remodeled a few years ago, in the winter, and you know what they say about good workers being hard to find? She found that out. They had left a big hole in her wall with no heat for days. She had local family but they didn’t even ask her to stay with them! I told her she couldn’t stay there and come to my place for a week to wfh here. She couldn’t because apparently state jobs also track where you work from and it has to be in state.

  • My friend works from home, but she works for a state job (not my state), she was getting her home remodeled a few years ago, in the winter, and you know what they say about good workers being hard to find? She found that out. They had left a big hole in her wall with no heat for days. She had local family but they didn’t even ask her to stay with them! I told her she couldn’t stay there and come to my place for a week to wfh here. She couldn’t because apparently state jobs also track where you work from and it has to be in state.
    I've been looking at job opportunities, especially remote ones, and it isn't uncommon for a job to be 100% remote but the employee has to be living in a particular state(s).

    I don't know the ins and outs of state employment laws. taxes. etc.  But I think that's where those issues can come from.  I'm sure the things to consider get exponentially wilder if we start talking about living or traveling in foreign countries.

    I saw a funny one the other day.  The job was with Frontier Airlines.  Almost 100% remote, but employees would have to go to the corporate office a few times a year.  So remote employees needed to live in a city close enough to an airport that Frontier services.

    I saw another one where the corporate offices where in a San Francisco suburb.  You could live anywhere in the US but had to work 8am-5pm... Pacific time only.

    This was another wacky one, though not a remote job.  The employee had to have eligibility to work in the US.  But the actual job site was at a factory in a Mexican border town.  
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