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Apologize, but don't pay

Dear Prudence,

I recently housesat for a friend’s colleague, something I often jump at the chance to do—I live in a small apartment so am happy to spend some time elsewhere and make some extra money at the same time. I was paid and everything seemed fine, until the day after I returned home, when I received a furious text containing a wild accusation that has thrown me for a loop.

Apparently, I had transgressed by lighting one of her “luxury” candles. Now, I did in fact light one of these candles: There were several new ones displayed prominently in the living room and I thought nothing of it, because candles are meant to be lit! I told her as politely as possible that I was sorry but saw nothing wrong with what I did, and she proceeded to berate me and make me feel like an uncultured rube because according to her it is egregious to light a candle in someone else’s home when it clearly has not been lit before. She told me she expected me to Venmo her for the cost of the candle—and it is a $70 candle!

I haven’t paid her, and am stunned as to how to even respond. I asked another friend for her perspective and she had actually been in a similar situation before while staying in an AirBnB with her girlfriend; she was going to light a candle that had not been lit until she was stopped by her girlfriend who said it was rude and something you “just don’t do” unless the owner expressly tells you it’s OK.

Prudie, am I crazy? I would never have lit the candle if she had explicitly told me not to and I am willing to issue another apology, but she also makes a lot more money than I do (enough to buy $70 candles), so I’d like to think she would be able to put this in perspective and let this go in the name of being a decent human. Did I completely miss the memo on candle lighting protocol- and if so, how can I proceed without paying $70 for an honest mistake?

—Candle Crisis

Re: Apologize, but don't pay

  • I have an Aunt who has candles that aren’t not meant to be lit so I probably wouldn’t have lit it. I don’t think LW needs to pay for the $70 candle but I do think lighting a candle when you’re house sitting is a bit odd.
  • CasadenaCasadena member
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    I think the same @charlotte989875. A huge brand new candle at someone elses home? Wouldn't even cross my mind that it'd be ok to light it. That said, if the homeowner feels that strongly about it, she should have said something pre-emptively. Now she knows. 
  • If it's not my parents' house or somewhere I"m super comfortable I don't know why you'd light a brand new candle.  I feel like those are things not bought as consumables the way they may say you can open and eat a bag of chips.

    Is a $70 candle expensive? Yup.  Should the homeowner have said what is and is not OK to use up front?  Yes.

    This LW needs to know a bridge is burned if they don't offer anything but if they're OK with that then apologize and know for the future that you should ask if there are things that aren't OK to use.

    It reminds me of the decorative rose soaps in my grandmother's bathroom.  They were out.  They were pretty.  They were for company.  And I wasn't it. 
  • Sometimes when we travel I'll get someone to stay at our house and watch the dog. I would be really surprised if they lit a candle, especially a new one. But I don't own $70 candles and I wouldn't be an asshole about it. 

    LW shouldn't have lit the candle without asking, but the homeowner should have put it up or mentioned it if it was that big of a deal. 
  • levioosalevioosa member
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    Tbh this is an ESH to me. Like...some people use candles purely as decoration and I personally would never light an unused candle. I might consider it if it was already used previously, but I still would probably avoid it unless there was some apocalyptic smell event that warranted it. I would assume than an enormous unused candle (and I can guess at the brands it could be) was decorative. Should the owner have mentioned it was off-limits? Sure, but I bet in their eyes it was not "candle" it was "decoration" so it didn't even cross their mind. If I was the owner I would be annoyed but I'd let it go. A lengthy furious text is a little ridiculous. 


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  • VarunaTTVarunaTT member
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    I keep imagining one of those big 3 wick candles on the living room table, especially since homeowner wants $70.  I think it's weird LW lit it, but if it was something like that, I can kinda see why it happened.  I'd give homeowner the money, just to end things on an even note, but I wouldn't house sit for her again.
  • Of all things, this letter was actually very triggering for me because my own husband did the same moronic thing and it's hardly the only example.  He also just did something a couple days ago that was a completely different action, but under this same "stupid and uncaring" theme.

    But for my response to this letter, the LW definitely "missed the memo" and STILL doesn't understand it!  Even had the audacity to call it a "wild accusation".  Are you kidding me?  They ruined the homeowner's $70 decorative candle.  A homeowner shouldn't have to tell a house sitter every little, tiny thing they should/shouldn't do.  That would get insulting, but then there are people like the LW who may not have common sense about some things.  

    With that said, a furious and long text message was going too far on the part of the homeowner.  But I also understand their perspective.  They probably haven't had enough life experience yet to realize things that are very obvious to them and arguably most people, may not be obvious to everyone.


    My candle story:

    I'm not a candle person, so it was very unusual I bought them to begin with.  It was a 4-pack set.  My H was with me and I said something like, "I love these!  I like the containers and the colors.  They will look nice on our coffee table."

    That was exactly where I put them.  Where they safely lived for a few years.  I'm rarely out of town without him but, Murphy's Law, I was when there was a power outage for a few hours.

    Did he use our battery powered lantern that, by far, gives off more lighting than anything else?  No.  Did he use our set of flashlights?  No.  Did he use a couple candles sitting on a closet shelf because I didn't care about them?  No.  He lit ALL four of my pretty, decorative candles.

    Because that was just the first thing he saw and he couldn't be bothered to think of anything else.   Yet another example of how thoughtless AF he is about things I like or need.
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  • Yeah - I'm not thinking it's a 3 wick one but more like a candle that was specialized in a place like a Jo Malone perfume or something that was equally posh.

    Much like while you're house sitting if you can eat the food don't grab the nice wagyu beef in the freezer.

    The LW is out of touch and that they're not owning up to the idea that maybe they screwed up is IMO a problem.   Similarly if they didn't say alcohol was off limits would you still go to their wine and just open a random bottle??
  • VarunaTTVarunaTT member
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    I think LW is missing that you can make an honest mistake and still have consequences.  LW is looking for a way to wiggle out of paying for it -- I do think she should pay.
  • VarunaTT said:
    I think LW is missing that you can make an honest mistake and still have consequences.  LW is looking for a way to wiggle out of paying for it -- I do think she should pay.
    RIght.  Like...Just because it didn't say not to why did you?

    Not exactly the same scenario at all but there was an issue with my daughter's camp.  And to avoid going into major details, one person was caught at the overnight camp with items that are not legal to have at her age.

    Staff found out and kicked her out.  

    Later that week her parents fought the camp and WON stating that there's a 3 strikes rule stated in the handbook and this was their child's first strike.

    She was allowed to attend a following week.

    My argument: then Chiquita can punch their child twice in the face and it's fine.  

    Do you need it to be stated that LEGAL RULES are a higher ranking priority?  

    They had to draw up paperwork that explicitly stated that 'you can be kicked out if you break a rule one time."  Because they had campers of all ages and didn't think they had to break out that if you break the law you're kicked out but also, don't be a jerk to your 9 yo friend during craft time either. 
  • VarunaTT said:
    I think LW is missing that you can make an honest mistake and still have consequences.  LW is looking for a way to wiggle out of paying for it -- I do think she should pay.
    I kind of disagree about paying for it. I would think of it as something similar to breaking something while working at someone's house. If my cleaning people broke a wine glass or something while cleaning, I wouldn't expect them to pay for it. Sometimes shit just happens. It's not a priceless heirloom. 
  • "Candles are meant to be lit" is the thing I can't get over.

    Even if you're dumb enough to think that's everyone's perspective on candles - clearly she didn't light them, so you figured it was your job to enjoy them first? Were the candles missing out on serving their purpose?

    Perks of housesitting mean you get to enjoy their premium TV channels, not use up all their consumables.

    As the homeowner, I probably would never have sent the text (and definitely not asked for payment) but also never asked LW to housesit again.
  • ei34ei34 member
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    This is an ESH- if the text was really as awful as LW is making it seem. Considering the lack of social awareness in other parts of the letter, they could be exaggerating about being aggressively berated when it might’ve been “hey, this $70 item is ruined so here’s my Venmo”.  

    That’s all speculation though of course- what does concern me is LW’s refusal to say “I messed up”. This reads as a heat-of-the-moment, verbal rant LW had when they called and told the first person about it, moments after receiving the text.  Not as an email to Prudie written days later. 
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