Wedding Woes

Don't get one

Dear Prudence,

My sister has an Australian shepherd, “Bertie,” who is like a dog from a kids’ book. Her family lives in a very rural area, so the kids often play outside, and my sister and her husband check on them regularly. Bertie is a herding dog and firmly keeps them together, and away from things like water and the driveway if a tractor is coming. She cuddles them when they’re sad or upset and helps keep them out of trouble. On a recent family vacation to a lake house, she tucked my kids into her “herd” of children, and they were delighted. We always had an adult outside when the kids were there because of the risks of the lake. Bertie was the best backup and kept the kids endlessly happy outside and away from risks. Also, herding dogs have tons of energy and need attention, so the kids’ screen time plummeted between cousins, dogs, and outdoor adventures—including for our youngest, who’s often scared of new places and wants to be inside on the iPad. This was wonderful, but it was also a vacation, not real life.

My sister has long urged me to get a dog to help with my kids, but we live on a half-acre lot in the suburbs. My husband and I both work away from the house, and I do not have the time or skill needed to train a working dog. But now, my husband and kids have added to the chorus. I grew up with amazing working dogs, but my current life isn’t suited to one. And dogs like Bertie don’t just happen; it takes a lot of work and training. How do I shut down this pressure campaign at home? I’d be OK with a smaller pet-type dog, but everyone has their hearts set on Bertie 2.0.

Re: Don't get one

  • Get the smaller type dog.  They'll all fall in love.
  • I'm sure if you got a smaller dog more suited to your lifestyle, the family will love that too. There's more than one kind of great dog.
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  • My son and DIL have an aussie. The breed tends toward anxiety even when trained which theirs is. This dog, while sweet and wonderful, has been A LOT of work. They didn't realize how anxious he could be. Fortunately, DS and DIL can be home some during days but not every day. That helps. It doesn't sound like LW's family can give an aussie the time it needs for training - especially with young kids at home. DS and DIL don't have children. LW needs to get another type of dog.
  • ei34ei34 member
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    Another vote for a dog more suited to your lifestyle. The kids will fall in love with it. (And when I heard Australian dog I originally thought a blue Heeler lol)
  • ei34 said:
    Another vote for a dog more suited to your lifestyle. The kids will fall in love with it. (And when I heard Australian dog I originally thought a blue Heeler lol)
    Same! 
  • Ditto everyone else.

    A dog not suited for your lifestyle and living environment is not going to thrive where you are.   It's going to be a miserable experience for all involved and dogs don't talk so good luck having nice stuff like....couches with stuffing. 
  • Honestly, I don't think this fam is ready for a dog. I wouldn't get one. 
  • levioosa said:
    Listen, all dogs are hard work and take time and effort. But a herding/working dog is a thousand times more work. Unless you're prepared to spend an enormous amount of time training the dog and then hours daily going on hikes or walks to expend the energy, you would be doing yourself, your family and the dog an huge disservice. SIL A and her H got a herding dog. I can't say anything to them, but it's so obvious it was a huge mistake. They didn't have the time to train the dog properly, they're not home enough for the dog, and on top of it all the dog is super reactive and we can't even take it hiking because it tries to fight with other dogs. It simply isn't fair to a working dog to force it into a suburban/apartment lifestyle. 
    One of the larger private gripes DH and I have are when see the local forums with renters who have dogs looking for places that are dog friendly with their larger animals or groups of them. 

    Obviously plenty of things happen to living arrangements but so often there's a lack of research done into animal ownership before it takes place and the animal is the one who loses.


  • Another vote for "Dog that fits their lifestyle"... It's cruel to an animal to put it into an environment that is not within its breed character!  A lap dog suburban lifestyle is not a good fit for an Aussie! (From someone who grew up with Aussie's as a farm dog!)
  • banana468 said:
    levioosa said:
    Listen, all dogs are hard work and take time and effort. But a herding/working dog is a thousand times more work. Unless you're prepared to spend an enormous amount of time training the dog and then hours daily going on hikes or walks to expend the energy, you would be doing yourself, your family and the dog an huge disservice. SIL A and her H got a herding dog. I can't say anything to them, but it's so obvious it was a huge mistake. They didn't have the time to train the dog properly, they're not home enough for the dog, and on top of it all the dog is super reactive and we can't even take it hiking because it tries to fight with other dogs. It simply isn't fair to a working dog to force it into a suburban/apartment lifestyle. 
    One of the larger private gripes DH and I have are when see the local forums with renters who have dogs looking for places that are dog friendly with their larger animals or groups of them. 

    Obviously plenty of things happen to living arrangements but so often there's a lack of research done into animal ownership before it takes place and the animal is the one who loses.



    There are small dogs that are also herders, like Corgis.  They should look into a breed like that and see if it would be a good fit.  I appreciate the LW is thinking about those things.

    My other advice for renters and really anybody.  There are 360 breeds of dogs in the world.  There are about 10 breeds that most property insurance companies won't cover.  Chose a dog or mixed breed that is from one of the other 340 choices.

    You can't get insurance with last resort carrier Louisiana Citizens if you have a "terrier breed that is more than 50 lbs."  Last resort means that is sometimes the ONLY insurance you can get for wind/named storm coverage.

    They have the other usual breed restrictions, but I laughed the first time I read that phrase.  Because the translation is:  We don't care what you call your pit bull.  No.   
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  • banana468 said:
    levioosa said:
    Listen, all dogs are hard work and take time and effort. But a herding/working dog is a thousand times more work. Unless you're prepared to spend an enormous amount of time training the dog and then hours daily going on hikes or walks to expend the energy, you would be doing yourself, your family and the dog an huge disservice. SIL A and her H got a herding dog. I can't say anything to them, but it's so obvious it was a huge mistake. They didn't have the time to train the dog properly, they're not home enough for the dog, and on top of it all the dog is super reactive and we can't even take it hiking because it tries to fight with other dogs. It simply isn't fair to a working dog to force it into a suburban/apartment lifestyle. 
    One of the larger private gripes DH and I have are when see the local forums with renters who have dogs looking for places that are dog friendly with their larger animals or groups of them. 

    Obviously plenty of things happen to living arrangements but so often there's a lack of research done into animal ownership before it takes place and the animal is the one who loses.



    There are small dogs that are also herders, like Corgis.  They should look into a breed like that and see if it would be a good fit.  I appreciate the LW is thinking about those things.

    My other advice for renters and really anybody.  There are 360 breeds of dogs in the world.  There are about 10 breeds that most property insurance companies won't cover.  Chose a dog or mixed breed that is from one of the other 340 choices.

    You can't get insurance with last resort carrier Louisiana Citizens if you have a "terrier breed that is more than 50 lbs."  Last resort means that is sometimes the ONLY insurance you can get for wind/named storm coverage.

    They have the other usual breed restrictions, but I laughed the first time I read that phrase.  Because the translation is:  We don't care what you call your pit bull.  No.   
    YES! I've talked to a few people who have admitted that they lied to their homeowner's insurance about the breed of dog they have (pit, shepherd, doberman) and I just can't help but wonder why they are doing a disservice to their finances AND to anyone who comes in contact with their animals.

    I wish our lifestyle and DH's allergies were more conducive to dog ownership.  Friends of ours have a BernieDoodle and the dog is just the best.  
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