My fiance and I are trying to find the wedding venue perfect for us, but  it's proving more difficult than we thought, so I thought I'd pick  everyone else's brain for ideas.  
We want a secluded location, with  charm and character (like a barn, mill, etc.), and trees.  We are  inviting 170, so we are expecting around 150 guests.  Money is a factor,  so we are looking for the more budget locations, and we would prefer  not to have the wedding be in a tent.  We also would prefer the  convenience of an all-inclusive type package, rather than finding the  caterer and other rentals separately.  We are looking in the NJ/NY/PA  area.
To give you an idea...So far we loved Stroudsmoor's Woodsgate  (but feel like our 150 will be squished into the reception room), and  Ridgecrest (but can't make the 175 minimum), and loved the view and  price of Bear Mountain's Overlook Lodge (but did not like the reception  room/cocktail hour hallway).  
If anyone has any ideas for other places for us to check out, we'd love to hear them!