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Bridal Shower Questions and an MOH issue [LONG] [XPOST from Pre-Wedding Parties]

AuroraRose41AuroraRose41 member
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edited March 2014 in Wedding Party
[XPOST] because I forgot that the other forum existed last night.

Hi everyone. I am a bridesmaid in a very good friend's wedding.  She is getting married in September of 2015 (~18 months away).  Some backstory (some of which is a [XPOST] from NEY, but new details and the questions at bottom are new): Her MOH has been MIA for the past few months due to being obsessed with her boyfriend, and barely speaks to the bride anymore. When the MOH does, she only wants to talk about the wedding with the bride, even if the bride tries to talk about how the MOH is doing and what's new with her.  And when I say wedding, I mean that the MOH asks questions such as "oh did you pick colors yet?" or "did you put a deposit down on a venue yet?", when the bride took care of both of these in December, texted MOH, mass Facebook messaged all bridesmaids + MOH, and posted in the secret wedding group for all bridesmaids and groomsmen to see. Not only that, but the wedding had to be pushed back until 2015 due to unforeseen circumstances. It was originally supposed to be fall of 2013, and they made the decision to push it back in March of 2013 (~5 months before the original wedding date).  Now, the MOH never contacted the rest of us about anything wedding related when it was still supposed to be last year, despite telling the bride that she would plan the bridal shower and bachelorette.  Maybe 5 months is way too early to brainstorm ideas?  I am a planner though, so that is exactly when I would have at least started to reach out to see what ideas people had/what others thought of mine if I were in her position. I understand (and the bride does too) that it is NOT a requirement for anyone to throw these parties, but the bride really would like the full experience, if possible.  The bride has been really worried that the MOH wouldn't follow through, and possibly stop talking to the bride altogether for whatever reason. I basically told the bride that I would make sure that she had a shower and bachelorette, and would not leave her hanging, despite what happens between the bride and MOH.  I only want to do this to make my friend happy, and in no way want the MOH to be demoted.  So, I do not want to step on the MOH's toes if she does want to plan it, but she hasn't really given anyone else confidence that she will follow through.  I plan on emailing her to ask if she has given any thought to it yet, and maybe share some of my ideas with her, to see how receptive she is.  The number one thing right now is that I don't want to ask her/share ideas if it's still way too early.

Okay, now the questions:
1) How early should you start planning a bridal shower? I do not want to offend the MOH if she just hadn't gotten around to it, but want to make sure that the bride doesn't get hurt expecting one after a promise was made and not getting it. Also, the bride expressed that she would like a nice affair at a country club or a nice restaurant (which I had already had in mind for her). There aren't many in the area, so how early should we/I book a place to ensure that we can get a venue? I know sometimes weddings need to be booked a year or two out, but I have no idea about a bridal shower.
2) The bride expressed to me that she would ideally like the shower to take place in April or May of 2015. Is this a reasonable time to have a shower for a September wedding? She wants this as her FI and her are both graduating, and most likely will be moving away in late May/early June from the area where both of their families live and where the wedding is taking place. If it is before they move, then the bride won't have to come up with the airfare to fly back while she might still be looking for a job. Would guests side-eye having it so early, even if they knew that the months in between then and the wedding would be difficult for the bride to have it in?

I really appreciate all of your help.

Re: Bridal Shower Questions and an MOH issue [LONG] [XPOST from Pre-Wedding Parties]

  • The bride shouldn't be dictating that she "would like a nice affair at a restaurant or country club." Where and what kind of shindig it is is up to the people paying for it. You discuss with everyone who is contributing how much they can contribute and then work from there. It's just like with the wedding. BUDGET comes first. Too many people put the cart before the horse with this stuff, and then they are back here complaining about nobody helping or it being too expensive, etc. 

    I, personally, think showers should be closer to the wedding, (especially since it has been pushed back before on short notice), but I do understand that there are life events and things that have to be worked around sometimes. I think since the bride is moving away, people would understand why it is so early. 


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  • AuroraRose41AuroraRose41 member
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    AddieL73 said:
    The bride shouldn't be dictating that she "would like a nice affair at a restaurant or country club." Where and what kind of shindig it is is up to the people paying for it. You discuss with everyone who is contributing how much they can contribute and then work from there. It's just like with the wedding. BUDGET comes first. Too many people put the cart before the horse with this stuff, and then they are back here complaining about nobody helping or it being too expensive, etc. 

    I, personally, think showers should be closer to the wedding, (especially since it has been pushed back before on short notice), but I do understand that there are life events and things that have to be worked around sometimes. I think since the bride is moving away, people would understand why it is so early. 


    This is why I asked how early is too early to start planning. I have already looked into the cost of my ideas, and would be able to afford this on my own for my friend if no one else plans on contributing (since etiquette says that only the hosts have to pay for it). However, I don't know anyone else in the WP too well (most of them are high school friends of the bride; I am the only college friend), and since MOH offered initially, I do not want to upset her.  I just don't know if a year out is way too early to start brainstorming this and ask what MOH is planning, if anything. Also, the bride wasn't dictating, just suggesting a few places that she had been to bridal showers before that she thought were really well done.  And they are right along the lines of what I already had in mind.  She doesn't want to know anything else, and only offered these suggestions when I asked her if she would prefer somewhere like that. 

    Edited because I dropped a few words.....I don't function well without coffee.

  • Why don't you message the MoH and say you'd really like to help plan these two events and see how she responds?
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  • @chibiyui I plan on doing this exactly today (wanted to sleep on it/ sleep off the wine haha). I just don't know how much to start planning a year out, if anything at all. Or if MOH would be annoyed that I am thinking about this a year out.

  • It's way too early to be planning this shower.  Your friend shouldn't have even asked anyone to be bridesmaids yet.

    Wait until next January.  Then contact all of the BMs, including MOH, and say that you want to throw a shower and ask if anyone is interested in contributing.  If the MOH wants to help, she'll volunteer.  

    May is really early for this shower.  Typically the shower is around 2 months before the wedding.  

    Also, you need to MYOB about the bride's relationship with the MOH.  Inserting yourself into a conflict between friends is never going to turn out well for you.  
  • Oh good! An easy one. No one needs to be doing, saying, thinking, planning, or discussing anything about a Sept 2015 wedding now. Try again a year from now.
  • Agreed - every shower/bachelorette I've been to has been within 3 months of the wedding. I think we had a May/June shower for my cousin's September wedding; and an April/May shower for another cousin's June wedding. Their bachelorette parties were planned for 2-3 weeks prior to their wedding dates.

    Now - the only thing I would include is that if you are inviting family members or friends from out of state, you may need to start planning for these things a few months in advance - so they can get the date on their calendars, etc. So I would say if it's a September 2015 wedding, any earlier than Feb/March of 2015 would be waaaaaaay to early.
  • First of all, the bride doesn't get to 'express' that she wants the full experience or that she wants a shower at a country club.

    Second of all, MARCH of 2014 is at least 14 month too early to try to plan ANYTHING for a SEPTEMBER 2015 wedding. For goodness' sake, people have enough time to have two babies between now and then.

    So, so, SO much can change between now and then. I would stop thinking or worrying about or pre-planning it until AT LEAST February 2015. At that point, contact the MOH and ask her what (if any) her plans are. If she has none, you go from there.

    You don't even know that all these current BP members will still be in the BP. They may drop out or move away or have life circumstances come up that prevent them from being in the wedding.

    I'm sure the bride is still in full-on planning mode, given that she would have gotten married six months ago but for whatever the circumstances are, and that now she is having AT LEAST a two-year engagement, which is a very long time, but there's really nothing else to be done this year.
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  • It's way too early to be planning this shower.  Your friend shouldn't have even asked anyone to be bridesmaids yet.

    Wait until next January.  Then contact all of the BMs, including MOH, and say that you want to throw a shower and ask if anyone is interested in contributing.  If the MOH wants to help, she'll volunteer.  

    May is really early for this shower.  Typically the shower is around 2 months before the wedding.  

    Also, you need to MYOB about the bride's relationship with the MOH.  Inserting yourself into a conflict between friends is never going to turn out well for you.  
    I didn't ask to know this information from her; she was really hurt and upset and wanted to talk/vent to me about it. And being a good friend, I reassured her that everything would be fine and encouraged her to reach out to her friend and try to talk to her about what's been going on in her life. 

  • @mellyD2014 and @HisGirlFriday13, thank you for your responses.  I was trying to persuade her that May/June would be a better time to have it, and she might be more receptive to it as time goes on.  Both the bride and groom will be graduating with their degrees in early May of 2015, and I think she might be worried about where they will end up living afterward (possibly near me, on the opposite coast from the wedding!). But I do appreciate all of the responses with timing.  I just had no idea how soon in advance that budgets should be asked and venues booked etc, since wedding venues can be booked a few years out.

  • It's way too early to be planning this shower.  Your friend shouldn't have even asked anyone to be bridesmaids yet.

    Wait until next January.  Then contact all of the BMs, including MOH, and say that you want to throw a shower and ask if anyone is interested in contributing.  If the MOH wants to help, she'll volunteer.  

    May is really early for this shower.  Typically the shower is around 2 months before the wedding.  

    Also, you need to MYOB about the bride's relationship with the MOH.  Inserting yourself into a conflict between friends is never going to turn out well for you.  
    I didn't ask to know this information from her; she was really hurt and upset and wanted to talk/vent to me about it. And being a good friend, I reassured her that everything would be fine and encouraged her to reach out to her friend and try to talk to her about what's been going on in her life. 
    I didn't say you asked for it.  I said you need to MYOB.

    You've heard one side of the story from an upset friend who is venting, and you are allowing it to color your impression of the situation and your opinion of the other girl.  That's bad.  
  • AuroraRose41AuroraRose41 member
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    edited March 2014

    @MyNameIsNot, I'm sorry if this came off as me being judgemental of MOH. That is not my intent, nor am I allowing it to color my opinion of her.  Of the few times I have met her, we got along well, and I base my opinions of people on my interactions with them. The fact is that the MOH has been completely MIA for her friend. And as a result, the bride was upset and hurt. On top of that, she is planning a wedding from afar, so she is in full on planning mode (yes, I know it's early, but this isn't up to me).  I think both really stressed her out, and I wasn't sure whether or not this was an appropriate time for her to even be thinking of what will come of the promised shower.  I have never done any of this before, and needed the advice as to when a reasonable time is to start planning/reaching out to MOH/etc. I thought it was very early too, but wanted all of you to confirm that this can wait a while still.  The main reason for my post was to calm my friend down, that she needs to take a breather, and keep encouraging her to reach out to her friend as a friend (and not a bride).


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