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Ah the bright-eyed new employee

My firm is notoriously hard on our project managers. We never have enough of them, so they end up being ridden until breaking point... at which point they quit, leaving us with fewer PMs and thus the ones left get ridden harder. It's a bad cycle that we keep trying to break but we can't keep PMs around long enough to get past the cycle. 

So a new PM started about two weeks ago. I work with him on one small project. He's a great PM, but his tenacity is going to kill him! He keeps checking up, keeps asking how things are going, and what's more... he keeps trying to help! I continue to tell him that my job is to do all of the analysis and his job is to assign work to me. But he says that he wants to learn. I told him that they obviously don't have him on enough accounts yet if he has time to learn my job on top of his own. 

I'm sitting back and waiting for him to crack. Anyone want to guess how long it takes?
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Re: Ah the bright-eyed new employee

  • Maybe I'm missing something (because I don't know what you do), but if he's tenacious, bright, and eager to learn, and he has enough time to want to learn your job, couldn't he be given other accounts, and wouldn't that help break the cycle you're in?
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    I'm gonna go with 'not my circus, not my monkeys.'
  • I honestly don't know why he thinks he has time to do my work on top of his... I think maybe he's just still in ramp up mode and thus doesn't have a full work load yet. But he has PM experience, he should know what's coming.
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    Sounds like my undergrads. One of them checks in constantly, which is fine for now but she's even doing it with stuff she's gotten plenty of practice with. The other keeps trying to take on extra responsibilities in the lab, even though they're things he's not supposed to be responsible for. Like, I get it, you want to aliquot stuff, but if you fuck up and contaminate the reagent while you're aliquoting, that's not going to end well. If I make the same mistake, which is not impossible but much less likely, it's easier for me to take the blame.
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  • edited April 2014
    I'm with HisGirl on this -- I don't understand the negative attitude toward the new PM.

    Why do you get to judge his abilities and stamina, and hold it against him that he is eager to learn? If he has previous PM experience, he likely knows exactly what he's in store for and can appropriately allocate his own resources to the tasks and accounts he's being given.

    On the off chance that he doesn't, that's really on him. While other PMs may have burned out quickly, I wouldn't exactly begrudge him for his eagerness and wait for him to fizzle, too. It just seems unnecessarily petty and far from helpful. Don't you want him to last, rather than have to go through hiring another PM again?

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  • I think you should let him learn! He might know what's coming, but he might want to have more of a handle on what you actually do so he can be a better PM while he still can.
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