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You won...now stop it.

Dear Prudence,
My husband and I moved from the liberal Northeastern town we both grew up in to a small, conservative Southern one several years ago. One of the biggest adjustments has been the way people very openly talk about religion and assume that everyone else should as well. We mostly kept quiet about the fact that we don’t practice any religion and politely explain (over and over) that we’d rather not come to their churches. Our elementary school daughter recently told us that her teacher led the class in prayer each day before lunch in her public school. All the children had to bow their heads and recite a lengthy prayer. My daughter said she didn’t know if she should do it, but thought maybe it was “being a good American.” We told her that no one should ever force you to pray against your will. My husband and I wrote the principal about this and asked our child not be mentioned by name. The principal said she’d send a general reminder about not praying in class, but the tone of her email made it clear she thought we were overreacting. Our child reported the praying stopped immediately with no explanation. My husband and I think the teacher should have told the students why she shouldn’t have led them in prayer. He wants to press this issue, while I feel as long as we let our child know what’s right and wrong, we should let this go and accept this is part of where we live. Our child will be in this school for several more years. We did tell a few acquaintances about this and they said “people like us” were ruining the community of faith. Sometimes, I feel like I’m being a coward not standing up for religious tolerance.

—Unconstitutional

Re: You won...now stop it.

  • *headdesk**headdesk**headdesk*

    Like I can even deal with dynamic in the South now. Even in an urban area. Free to proselytize and "shout it from the rooftops"

    Unless you are not a follower/believer of Christ. Or a God concept.

    Then, it's "Silence, you people"

    I've got to agree with the mom, although I can see a facet where that could be construed as cowardice. Speaking of the 'why' isn't going to change anyone's mind or help anything except to hone the animosity from "damn ACLU", to "damn kid and her godless folks"
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  • I know why dad wants to push it, but I wouldn't.  Kid has to go to that school and some of the bullying that's been going on in schools for non-christian kids has been getting out of control (death threats against the high school girl and her family for trying to start a Secular Student Alliance, the kid who dealt with death threats b/c of being Buddhist).

    I hope she ripped the "acquaintances" a new butthole and that they're no longer speaking.  
  • I think they should not push it for their kid's sake.  The prayer stopped...wasn't that the goal in writing the e-mail?  Pushing it further could have severe ramifications for their kid that the kid may not be able to process. 

    I'm also with Kuus that they should move. 
  • You know that kid is going to be an outcast anyway, pushing the issue or no.
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  • I don't 100% agree that the kid will be an outcast. I have many Jehovah Witness kids that don't say the pledge or pray during the moment of silence in the morning and I haven't heard of bullying because of it.

     

    I think that the parents did the right thing by speaking with the principal and it seems like there was a solution to their problem. As far as prayer in schools, it is allowed if it is student lead and not by a staff member.

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  • And not in a situation where members are a captive audience, like say, a classroom or assembly.
  • I don't 100% agree that the kid will be an outcast. I have many Jehovah Witness kids that don't say the pledge or pray during the moment of silence in the morning and I haven't heard of bullying because of it.

     

    I think that the parents did the right thing by speaking with the principal and it seems like there was a solution to their problem. As far as prayer in schools, it is allowed if it is student lead and not by a staff member.

    In a whole bible belt community where they are hearing from their parents that nonreligious people are ruining the world?  Yeah, outcast.
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  • I don't 100% agree that the kid will be an outcast. I have many Jehovah Witness kids that don't say the pledge or pray during the moment of silence in the morning and I haven't heard of bullying because of it.

     

    I think that the parents did the right thing by speaking with the principal and it seems like there was a solution to their problem. As far as prayer in schools, it is allowed if it is student lead and not by a staff member.

    In a whole bible belt community where they are hearing from their parents that nonreligious people are ruining the world?  Yeah, outcast.

    I know that there are a lot of stories about the "Bible Belt", but I want to point out that not everyone there is awful. I have a lot of religious family that lives in the Bible Belt (and future in-laws) and most are welcoming and opening. There really are the Christians that don't judge and are amazing people. 
    Sorry about the little rant. I really hate the Bible Belt stereotype because not everyone is that way.

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  • I'm terrified that our kids may be bullied for being non-Christian or be hassled by husband's family who hassled us and told us that our married was doomed if we didn't accept Christ into our marriage. We're quite happy with our Buddhism, thanks, and we'll be teaching our kids about other religions and allowing them to choose their own rather than even raising them Buddhist.

    I am regularly made extremely uncomfortable by people asking me to pray for them or asking where I go to church. I feel like when patients pointedly ask me that, they may request to not have me as a nurse because I'm a godless heathen.


  • I'm terrified that our kids may be bullied for being non-Christian or be hassled by husband's family who hassled us and told us that our married was doomed if we didn't accept Christ into our marriage. We're quite happy with our Buddhism, thanks, and we'll be teaching our kids about other religions and allowing them to choose their own rather than even raising them Buddhist.

    I am regularly made extremely uncomfortable by people asking me to pray for them or asking where I go to church. I feel like when patients pointedly ask me that, they may request to not have me as a nurse because I'm a godless heathen.

    If people ask for prayers, I always respond with "We will keep you in our thoughts".  If they ask about the church, I wouldn't know how to handle that?

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