Well, this is embarrassing...(dress issues)

jimandpam87

RajahBMFD said:

10-15 pounds is alot in one month. And can be unhealthy. The faster you lose a large chunk of weight, the quicker you gain it back. Stress can make it even harder, and weddings can be stressful. I would find a fix now.

I tend to disagree with this logic.  I don't necessarily think the speed at which you lose weight has anything to do with gaining it back.  It's what you do AFTER you lose the weight that causes the gain.  This can happen whether you lose 1 lb a week or 3. 

Granted, I'm not promoting extreme and unhealthy weight loss.  But as a person that has 50 or so lbs to lose, I'm not concerned about losing a dress size in 1 month.  I may or may not gain that back in the future, however that has more to do with how I choose to eat/exercise at that point in time.

jimandpam87

mego2708 said:

I bought my wedding dress last fall and my wedding is next week. I yo-yo'd a lot this year with starting new WR diet and exercise plans and stress eating. I was incredibly nervous about my first fitting. My dress zipped up part of the way, but not all the way. My seamstress said I could try to lose the weight or I could go ahead and do the corset. She said she has seen a lot of brides try to lose weight last minute and that she personally feels we don't need the extra stress. I opted to go ahead and do the corset and try to lose weight as well. I'm really glad that I did. The last couple weeks have been so crazy that I've had a really hard time exercising as much as I should and I've definitely had some moments of weakness with stress eating. I'm glad to know that no matter what my dress will fit.

That being said, I was doing the 21 Day Fix this summer, and had realllllly good results. My first round I think I lost around 12lbs and 18 inches, and I was eating so much! It's definitely worth looking into if you want to try to accomplish the weight loss.

My mom is a really big proponent of this program as well.  I have done a little bit of the workouts, it's really tough!  It reminded me a lot of other 30 minute dvds like 30 day shred, t-25, etc.  Your results remind me of my own from when I was doing 30 day Shred last year.  I lost a TON of inches, while still feeling very satisfied food-wise.

levioosa

jimandpam87 said:

RajahBMFD said:

10-15 pounds is alot in one month. And can be unhealthy. The faster you lose a large chunk of weight, the quicker you gain it back. Stress can make it even harder, and weddings can be stressful. I would find a fix now.

I tend to disagree with this logic.  I don't necessarily think the speed at which you lose weight has anything to do with gaining it back.  It's what you do AFTER you lose the weight that causes the gain.  This can happen whether you lose 1 lb a week or 3. 

Granted, I'm not promoting extreme and unhealthy weight loss.  But as a person that has 50 or so lbs to lose, I'm not concerned about losing a dress size in 1 month.  I may or may not gain that back in the future, however that has more to do with how I choose to eat/exercise at that point in time.

This isn't logic.  It's science.  Most "quick" weight loss is due to extreme dieting which deprives the body of the number of calories it needs to survive.  When this happens the body goes into starvation mode.  It hoards the calories it does get and slows down your metabolism.  In cases of extreme dieting, the body will even start to consume it's own muscle, which is the last thing you want.  You can disagree all you want, but this is still true. 

If you are eating the correct amount of calories you need each day in the correct proportions, and you are exercising appropriately, you will see the right type of gradual and healthy weight loss.  The fact still is you most likely won't (and shouldn't) lose 15 pounds in a month.  Consider your other options and be realistic.  Stay away from processed foods, and try to focus on lean protein and vegetables.  A good rule is to eat as "close to nature" as possible.  You don't need to go all Raw Food Vegan extreme, but keep in mind that most ready made food  (like Lean Cuisine) is pretty unhealthy.  

I was just in my friend's wedding.  I had eight months to lose thirty pounds.  Guess what?  I gained seven more pounds.  AND I was eating better and working out every day.  My body hates me.  Don't count on losing the weight, but do your part to be healthy and get your dress altered.  

rajahmd

levioosa said:

jimandpam87 said:

RajahBMFD said:

10-15 pounds is alot in one month. And can be unhealthy. The faster you lose a large chunk of weight, the quicker you gain it back. Stress can make it even harder, and weddings can be stressful. I would find a fix now.

I tend to disagree with this logic.  I don't necessarily think the speed at which you lose weight has anything to do with gaining it back.  It's what you do AFTER you lose the weight that causes the gain.  This can happen whether you lose 1 lb a week or 3. 

Granted, I'm not promoting extreme and unhealthy weight loss.  But as a person that has 50 or so lbs to lose, I'm not concerned about losing a dress size in 1 month.  I may or may not gain that back in the future, however that has more to do with how I choose to eat/exercise at that point in time.

This isn't logic.  It's science.  Most "quick" weight loss is due to extreme dieting which deprives the body of the number of calories it needs to survive.  When this happens the body goes into starvation mode.  It hoards the calories it does get and slows down your metabolism.  In cases of extreme dieting, the body will even start to consume it's own muscle, which is the last thing you want.  You can disagree all you want, but this is still true. 

If you are eating the correct amount of calories you need each day in the correct proportions, and you are exercising appropriately, you will see the right type of gradual and healthy weight loss.  The fact still is you most likely won't (and shouldn't) lose 15 pounds in a month.  Consider your other options and be realistic.  Stay away from processed foods, and try to focus on lean protein and vegetables.  A good rule is to eat as "close to nature" as possible.  You don't need to go all Raw Food Vegan extreme, but keep in mind that most ready made food  (like Lean Cuisine) is pretty unhealthy.  

I was just in my friend's wedding.  I had eight months to lose thirty pounds.  Guess what?  I gained seven more pounds.  AND I was eating better and working out every day.  My body hates me.  Don't count on losing the weight, but do your part to be healthy and get your dress altered.  

QFT. You can't argue with science, whether you like or not.

jimandpam87

I'm not arguing about the science of what extreme weight loss does to your body over time.  I'm arguing about the so-called "science" behind the notion that losing 10 lbs. in a month will cause me to gain it back.  It's just not true.  Yes, if you do a really extreme diet there is a higher likelihood that you will gain it back because you can't stick with it for long and/or you binge.  But correlation does not equal causation here.  Gaining weight at that point has nothing to do with how fast you lost it.  It has to do with the excess of calories you eat after you give up.  If you stick to a healthy lifestyle for x amount of time after that, you WON'T gain it back.  That's all I'm saying.

Honestly, all of this is moot anyway b/c I specifically went on to say that I shouldn't have thrown out arbitrary numbers and that I'm focusing on losing inches by exercising and eating healthy.  I'm not starving myself.  I'm not doing anything extreme.  I have also gotten a back-up plan in place in case the dress doesn't fit. 

jimandpam87

levioosa said:

jimandpam87 said:

RajahBMFD said:

10-15 pounds is alot in one month. And can be unhealthy. The faster you lose a large chunk of weight, the quicker you gain it back. Stress can make it even harder, and weddings can be stressful. I would find a fix now.

I tend to disagree with this logic.  I don't necessarily think the speed at which you lose weight has anything to do with gaining it back.  It's what you do AFTER you lose the weight that causes the gain.  This can happen whether you lose 1 lb a week or 3. 

Granted, I'm not promoting extreme and unhealthy weight loss.  But as a person that has 50 or so lbs to lose, I'm not concerned about losing a dress size in 1 month.  I may or may not gain that back in the future, however that has more to do with how I choose to eat/exercise at that point in time.

This isn't logic.  It's science.  Most "quick" weight loss is due to extreme dieting which deprives the body of the number of calories it needs to survive.  When this happens the body goes into starvation mode.  It hoards the calories it does get and slows down your metabolism.  In cases of extreme dieting, the body will even start to consume it's own muscle, which is the last thing you want.  You can disagree all you want, but this is still true. 

If you are eating the correct amount of calories you need each day in the correct proportions, and you are exercising appropriately, you will see the right type of gradual and healthy weight loss.  The fact still is you most likely won't (and shouldn't) lose 15 pounds in a month.  Consider your other options and be realistic.  Stay away from processed foods, and try to focus on lean protein and vegetables.  A good rule is to eat as "close to nature" as possible.  You don't need to go all Raw Food Vegan extreme, but keep in mind that most ready made food  (like Lean Cuisine) is pretty unhealthy.  

I was just in my friend's wedding.  I had eight months to lose thirty pounds.  Guess what?  I gained seven more pounds.  AND I was eating better and working out every day.  My body hates me.  Don't count on losing the weight, but do your part to be healthy and get your dress altered.  

The bolded is irrelevant because I'm not doing anything extreme enough for this to happen. 

However, I wouldn't be so quick to throw around starvation mode as science.  There are a lot of studies that suggest that, while the metabolism does slow during starvation, you will still lose weight due to calorie deficit.  For someone who is not, in fact, starving, but has just lowered their calories to produce a larger deficit, this is a non-issue.

levioosa

jimandpam87 said:

levioosa said:

jimandpam87 said:

RajahBMFD said:

10-15 pounds is alot in one month. And can be unhealthy. The faster you lose a large chunk of weight, the quicker you gain it back. Stress can make it even harder, and weddings can be stressful. I would find a fix now.

I tend to disagree with this logic.  I don't necessarily think the speed at which you lose weight has anything to do with gaining it back.  It's what you do AFTER you lose the weight that causes the gain.  This can happen whether you lose 1 lb a week or 3. 

Granted, I'm not promoting extreme and unhealthy weight loss.  But as a person that has 50 or so lbs to lose, I'm not concerned about losing a dress size in 1 month.  I may or may not gain that back in the future, however that has more to do with how I choose to eat/exercise at that point in time.

This isn't logic.  It's science.  Most "quick" weight loss is due to extreme dieting which deprives the body of the number of calories it needs to survive.  When this happens the body goes into starvation mode.  It hoards the calories it does get and slows down your metabolism.  In cases of extreme dieting, the body will even start to consume it's own muscle, which is the last thing you want.  You can disagree all you want, but this is still true. 

If you are eating the correct amount of calories you need each day in the correct proportions, and you are exercising appropriately, you will see the right type of gradual and healthy weight loss.  The fact still is you most likely won't (and shouldn't) lose 15 pounds in a month.  Consider your other options and be realistic.  Stay away from processed foods, and try to focus on lean protein and vegetables.  A good rule is to eat as "close to nature" as possible.  You don't need to go all Raw Food Vegan extreme, but keep in mind that most ready made food  (like Lean Cuisine) is pretty unhealthy.  

I was just in my friend's wedding.  I had eight months to lose thirty pounds.  Guess what?  I gained seven more pounds.  AND I was eating better and working out every day.  My body hates me.  Don't count on losing the weight, but do your part to be healthy and get your dress altered.  

The bolded is irrelevant because I'm not doing anything extreme enough for this to happen. 

However, I wouldn't be so quick to throw around starvation mode as science.  There are a lot of studies that suggest that, while the metabolism does slow during starvation, you will still lose weight due to calorie deficit.  For someone who is not, in fact, starving, but has just lowered their calories to produce a larger deficit, this is a non-issue.

Out of curiosity do you have a medical degree background?  I know Rajah does.  I have a medical based background as well.  I'm not just throwing out words.  

I'm talking about depriving your body of the calories it needs to survive.  I can get all technical with you and start talking about Basal Metabolic Rates versus Resting Metabolic Rate versus energy expenditures, but I really don't feel like going over it all.  Also, of course you are going to lose weight when you lower your calories....and if you lower over a certain amount, it's harmful for the body.  

Everyone has a certain amount of calories they need to survive each day.  This number is furthermore adjusted by the amount of exercise/activity you do each day.  If you go below your BMR, you are starving yourself.  Again, this is not my logic/beliefs, this is science.  

If you are correctly adjusting calories, exercising and eating enough that's fine.  You're going to lose weight/inches.  Hooray! (not sarcastic).  But you can't sit there and argue that it's still safe to lose so much weight so quickly if you're not taking the appropriate measures for it.  Extreme dieting is bad.  Extreme fast weight loss is bad.