Have we talked about Jill and Derek's Wedding??

LabLove86

Did I miss a thread on this??

If so - please let me know! 

Otherwise my thoughts include:

It is weird that little Duggar children pretend to propose to each other. You're siblings. I don't like that - it's weird to me.

The music for the processional/recessional was not to my liking - It was too fast/weird beat - I just didn't like it.

Otherwise - everyone seemed to come together pretty well. There were a TON of people there - and most people seems pretty happy.

And I know this is an obvious one but - Jim Bob creeps me out. 

ALSO - I am so much more excited to see the Jessa/Ben proposal tonight.  I think I just like them a little more than I like Jill/Derek. 

amelisha

Ugh, Jessa seems like she hates Ben and is mocking him into her sleeve the whole time (not that I blame her...what a potatohead). Whoever told that girl that she's pretty made a huge miscalculation, I have never seen such a smug, smirky girl.

At least Jill and Derick seem to actually like each other.

I watched the whole episode in a bit of a rage because of Jim Bob and his creepy misogynistic everything though.

LabLove86

I do agree that Jill and Derek seem more in love than Jessa and Ben. I've saw something were it was commented that Jessa is quieter and more reserved; where Jill is more open in general. I wonder if thats what we're seeing. 

But I do think that Jessa is prettier than Jill.

porkchops926

I totally agree with you, Lab, that processional music.... WTF??? It sounded like drunken ragtime music. And when they ran at the end, I get that it was supposed to be like they're so in love they can't wait to be alone, but it looked more like "RUN.... RUN AWAAAAAY!"

kat1114

porkchops926 said:

I totally agree with you, Lab, that processional music.... WTF??? It sounded like drunken ragtime music. And when they ran at the end, I get that it was supposed to be like they're so in love they can't wait to be alone, but it looked more like "RUN.... RUN AWAAAAAY!"

So DH and I decided they totally ran away to bang bang before entering the reception. They were just so goofy in the little confessional afterwards and talking about how nice it was not to be chaperoned anymore. I can't say I blame them. If I was 25, and not only was a virgin, but had just had my very first kiss, and I finally had the chance to do whatever I wanted, I'd run out of my wedding too.

luckya23

I've seen the episode about 4 times and I always seem to miss the actual wedding part... so I don't know what music you mean!

As I've said many times, I love the Duggars. 

However, I do think it's weird that they are famous, and were self-sustaining even before tv, and yet they have all these volunteers and donations for the wedding. 

It bothers me just as much as all of the "budget wedding advice" that I've seen that's like "ask for favors!"  Well if my uncle was a wedding photographer, I think I would know it and whether he offered his service, so I don't think that's very helpful advice!

I used to think Jill was the ugly duckling, but I think she's very pretty now.  I wouldn't mind looking like any one of them!

amelisha

Yeah, luckya23, they are all pretty girls and their hair is lovely. My original comment up top was implying that Jessa is very, very aware of her looks, though, which really rubs me the wrong way. I'd rather sit next to Jim Bob at a dinner party than her...which is really saying something.

huskypuppy14

Jill and Derek running away was cute but a little weird. But the thing that was even weirder was Anna and Josh running, and then Jessa and Ben. 

What was the point of that?

Oh and then then everyone saying, I hope the next announcement is a baby. And Anna saying practice makes progress, and progress makes babies. 

LabLove86

huskypuppy14 said:

Jill and Derek running away was cute but a little weird. But the thing that was even weirder was Anna and Josh running, and then Jessa and Ben. 

What was the point of that?

Oh and then then everyone saying, I hope the next announcement is a baby. And Anna saying practice makes progress, and progress makes babies. 

Yeah- that skeeved me out.

LabLove86

hahaha I thought the same thing@smichek!!!!!!! And it looked like they almost kissed! I mean - kinda natural reaction I think

LabLove86

smichek said:

LabLove86 said:

hahaha I thought the same thing@smichek!!!!!!! And it looked like they almost kissed! I mean - kinda natural reaction I think

Yes!!!! The way they looked at each other was like they really wanted to kiss. Plus when Ben went to pray before lunch and they automatically held hands...I know Jessa said in the confessional/video diary/whatever the hell you call it that it was the first time they held hands but I don't really believe her. And her sisters said she comes in late after their late night talks...who wants to chaperone late at night? I want to sleep.

ETF: had to clarify

I mean - I love sleep. A lot. So I feel ya - but I had always thought that they were talking on the phone?? Or was it in person? I just assumed phone I guess

huskypuppy14

I don't really watch this show, but I wanted to see the wedding episode and I've seen a few others this season. 

I know they always have a chaperone, but if one of the chaperones is another older Duggar kid, what's stopping them from helping each other out. Obviously, not the dates on camera, but if Jessa is the chaperone for Derrick and Jill, she probably doesn't care if they make out, and if Jill is a chaperone for Jessa and Ben, she wont care either. Not that you want to make out in front of your sister, but you do what you gotta do. Maybe not even making out, but a quick kiss, holding hands, whatever. 

jenna8984

I watched it last night too and DH & I were yelling at the screen "just kiss- you know you want to!!" They were definitely holding it back (at the engagement)- so frigen weird that they have to do that. The episode of Ben & Jessa's wedding hasn't aired yet but the actual wedding happened already and I read that they didn't kiss during the ceremony. They "saved" it for when they were alone. Ooooook. I'd like to know how Ben- a 19 year old college student living in their guest room- paid for a fucking diamond ring......

So as awkward as it was when Jill & Derick sprinted out of their ceremony....I actually don't think they were running off to bang like some of you think. I remember being an 18 year old virgin and I was very shy and nervous about the whole thing. There's no way I would have done it for the first time anywhere but our bed. I have a feeling that's probably the case for them but hey I could be wrong.

 

dcbride86

jenna8984 said:

I watched it last night too and DH & I were yelling at the screen "just kiss- you know you want to!!" They were definitely holding it back (at the engagement)- so frigen weird that they have to do that. The episode of Ben & Jessa's wedding hasn't aired yet but the actual wedding happened already and I read that they didn't kiss during the ceremony. They "saved" it for when they were alone. Ooooook. I'd like to know how Ben- a 19 year old college student living in their guest room- paid for a fucking diamond ring......

So as awkward as it was when Jill & Derick sprinted out of their ceremony....I actually don't think they were running off to bang like some of you think. I remember being an 18 year old virgin and I was very shy and nervous about the whole thing. There's no way I would have done it for the first time anywhere but our bed. I have a feeling that's probably the case for them but hey I could be wrong.

 

I've thought this too.  I would be SO nervous and scared to go from never even kissing to losing my virginity in one night.  I can't even imagine.  I'm guessing they ran off to make out, but I wouldn't have wanted to do anything else at or around the church

ShesSoCold

I watched Jill's wedding (and missed Jessa's engagement last night) but I doubt they ran away to bang real quick. When it's been pounded into your head your entire life that penises are bad and never ever think about them and it's only okay for married couples, I'd think that first time would take some time. Hell, I wasn't religious at all, wasn't afraid at all and my first time took a little bit. 

Anyway, I love them and love the show, but they totally creep me out. I get teaching your kids values and shit, but when 19 people are saying THE EXACT SAME WORDS to questions they're asked, these aren't the kids' opinions. They're their crazy nutso parents' words. And that littlest one, Josie, makes me so sad. In the interviews, she always tries to speak along with whatever someone else is saying. She's 4 and already pretty well conditioned to just say whatever someone else says. 

anjemon

I don't usually watch the Duggars, but my roommate does. So I catch an episode every so often and when I do we talk about it. But she was watching the wedding episode on Sunday and I was curious so I did too.

I do really like how much Jill and Derick seem to really like each other. The running down the aisle was weird. Also, we totally thought the wedding coordinator was going to snap and kill someone. Which I now think is weird because she didn't have that many details to arrange.

I also was thinking during Jill and Derick's first look how many times I would have kissed my FI during it. It was strange to me that they didn't kiss at that really romantic time in their life. I know they were waiting, but it just made it seem off to me. But I haven't known a couple who didn't kiss until their wedding.

I hope Jessa is just one of those people who looks like they're smirking all the time, because otherwise I don't even know if I think she likes Ben. He's a lot cuter, but totally as dumb as a fence post. And was she the bridesmaid who was way too tan? One of the sisters was really fake looking dark.

anjemon

LabLove86 said:

huskypuppy14 said:

Jill and Derek running away was cute but a little weird. But the thing that was even weirder was Anna and Josh running, and then Jessa and Ben. 

What was the point of that?

Oh and then then everyone saying, I hope the next announcement is a baby. And Anna saying practice makes progress, and progress makes babies. 

Yeah- that skeeved me out.

I'm not surprised since it was the Duggar family saying it, but THIS. So icky. They just got married. Let them just be happy for awhile before she starts popping out babies.

We were speculating on which Duggar kid will be the one to write a tell-all. Also which kid would be the first to buck tradition and get a job/not have kids.

Maggie0829

I only watched the last hour of it.  Jill and Derick really do seem like they are in love.  Like when they look at each other they have those puppy dog, in love eyes, which is really sweet to see.  As for Jessa and Ben, eh they look like they can just barely stand each other and are probably only together because she is like 22 and her parents decided that she needed to get married off stat.

Jim Bob is creepy as fuck.  Like super creepy.

And what was up with the oldest kid (can't remember his name), slapping on sunglasses and planting a super awkward kiss on his wife as everyone was walking back up the aisle?  Why is it that whenever anyone on that show kisses it is the most awkward and embarrassing thing ever?

When Jill sucked the icing off Derick's finger after cutting the cake I was kind of shocked by that. Not because she licked frosting off his finger but because that seems like such a no-no in their weird ass world.  Like that is way to sexual in nature for them to be doing in front of people.

thisismynickname2

I actually just watched the wedding episode myself last night, and the engagement episode. I don't normally watch the show, but was morbidly curious with all the wedding stuff.

I thought Jill and Derick were really cute during their first look. I like Anna a lot- she's so sweet. I didn't take her "progress makes babies" comment as icky. All of us have heard comments directed to us about making babies as soon as we're married (if we didn't already have some).  And let's be real, no one's first time is amazing. Practice does help.

The little kids fidgeting during the ceremony just cracked me up.

Onto the engagement episode--- the older brother is a pilot? That's cool! I thought Ben was actually working for Jim Bob, so he'd have some money, and you never know if his parents helped him with the ring.  

charlottesmom0626

Oh my god. I watch this show in marathons when FI is away. Anna's comment made me cringe. "Progress makes babies"...?! It truly makes it seem like these women are so uneducated....don't touch men, NO FRONTAL HUGS, but you better start making babies ASAP. Not to mention Jill's already pregnant. Guys: real talk, you think they plan their weddings around ovulation cycles?

ShesSoCold

charlottesmom0626 said:

Oh my god. I watch this show in marathons when FI is away. Anna's comment made me cringe. "Progress makes babies"...?! It truly makes it seem like these women are so uneducated....don't touch men, NO FRONTAL HUGS, but you better start making babies ASAP. Not to mention Jill's already pregnant. Guys: real talk, you think they plan their weddings around ovulation cycles?

I bet they don't believe in ovulation cycles. I bet they think God makes you ovulate when He's ready for you to give birth. 

falsara

Am I only one that hopes that the next couple/s (don't really watch so have no clue),  just choose to not let their parents in on every intimate detail of their Married sex life so they can NFP on the down low, and just play dumb when the parentals ask "Why aren't you pregnant yet?"

That way they can control when/ if they want kids, but their parents don't jump on their asses.  I mean if you just don't tell people what you're doing.  then they can't say anything, because they don't know.

JennyColada

The thing that weirds me out about couples who wait for marriage is that EVERYONE knows when they have sex. I mean, if we know that they're waiting for marriage, and they're married, EVERYONE knows that they banged. That would make me feel VERY uncomfortable. Like, it's all anyone can think about. That would make me feel really...uncomfortable and gross.

sophhabobopha

That family fucking gives me the heebie jeebies.

BrandNewJ

I only saw the wedding and engagement episode, but I'm definitely intrigued, and have questions.

 Aren't there 2 kids between Josh and Jill who aren't married? What's up with that? They keep saying the couple chose not to hold hands before getting engaged or kiss before being married, that's not true right? That's what they've grown up believing is right? Is Jill already pregnant? Is there a reason Josh and Anna are naming all their kids M names? 

Also, I love how they comment that 1,000 people isn't a lot when you think about it but when you see it, it's huge. Well yeah... That's because by the time Josie has kids your family alone will be over a thousand people. The kiss was weird, but they're a cute couple. While I find Jim Bob creepy, I find Michelle to be much much worse. 

bellaluna290

ShesSoCold said:

charlottesmom0626 said:

Oh my god. I watch this show in marathons when FI is away. Anna's comment made me cringe. "Progress makes babies"...?! It truly makes it seem like these women are so uneducated....don't touch men, NO FRONTAL HUGS, but you better start making babies ASAP. Not to mention Jill's already pregnant. Guys: real talk, you think they plan their weddings around ovulation cycles?

I bet they don't believe in ovulation cycles. I bet they think God makes you ovulate when He's ready for you to give birth. 

I'm pretty sure they do, which is why they all get married .5 seconds after being engaged.

jenna8984

JennyColada said:

The thing that weirds me out about couples who wait for marriage is that EVERYONE knows when they have sex. I mean, if we know that they're waiting for marriage, and they're married, EVERYONE knows that they banged. That would make me feel VERY uncomfortable. Like, it's all anyone can think about. That would make me feel really...uncomfortable and gross.

Same here! I read a blog (may have been posted on here don't remember) about a girl who made it very clear she was waiting to everyone who knew her. She said it had become so much of who she was a person "the good virgin girl" that once she got married and had sex, she felt ashamed and no longer herself since that was her whole identity and now it was gone.

princessleia22

JennyColada said:

The thing that weirds me out about couples who wait for marriage is that EVERYONE knows when they have sex. I mean, if we know that they're waiting for marriage, and they're married, EVERYONE knows that they banged. That would make me feel VERY uncomfortable. Like, it's all anyone can think about. That would make me feel really...uncomfortable and gross.

Everyone is going to assume you are going at it all night on your wedding night anyway, even if you didn't wait for marriage. The morning after my wedding, we got all sorts of smirks and snarky "so, how was YOUR night?" comments at breakfast.  Honestly, we were too exhausted after the long, emotional day and we just went to sleep.  We figured that we have plenty of time for married sex and waiting until we were a bit more rested and had an ounce of energy would be more enjoyable than forcing ourselves to do it because "that's what we are supposed to do on our wedding night".  

AprilH81

BrandNewJ said:

I only saw the wedding and engagement episode, but I'm definitely intrigued, and have questions.

 Aren't there 2 kids between Josh and Jill who aren't married? What's up with that? Jana and John David (twins) are not married or courting as far as the public is aware.

They keep saying the couple chose not to hold hands before getting engaged or kiss before being married, that's not true right? It is true as far as we can tell.  Josh (oldest) did the same during his courtship to Anna.

That's what they've grown up believing is right? I'm not sure how much is "family tradition" and how much is the viewpoint of the Quiverfull movement that they are a part of. Jim Bob and Michelle try to get us to believe the kids set their own standards, but I'm pretty skeptical since they all conveniently set the same standards for themselves.

Is Jill already pregnant? Yes, the baby was conceived on/shortly after the honeymoon.

Is there a reason Josh and Anna are naming all their kids M names? Same concept as all of the Duggar kids having "J" names.

Also, I love how they comment that 1,000 people isn't a lot when you think about it but when you see it, it's huge. Well yeah... That's because by the time Josie has kids your family alone will be over a thousand people. The kiss was weird, but they're a cute couple. While I find Jim Bob creepy, I find Michelle to be much much worse. 

My comments in bold.

BrandNewJ

AprilH81 said:

BrandNewJ said:

I only saw the wedding and engagement episode, but I'm definitely intrigued, and have questions.

 Aren't there 2 kids between Josh and Jill who aren't married? What's up with that? Jana and John David (twins) are not married or courting as far as the public is aware.

They keep saying the couple chose not to hold hands before getting engaged or kiss before being married, that's not true right? It is true as far as we can tell.  Josh (oldest) did the same during his courtship to Anna.

That's what they've grown up believing is right? I'm not sure how much is "family tradition" and how much is the viewpoint of the Quiverfull movement that they are a part of. Jim Bob and Michelle try to get us to believe the kids set their own standards, but I'm pretty skeptical since they all conveniently set the same standards for themselves.

Is Jill already pregnant? Yes, the baby was conceived on/shortly after the honeymoon.

Is there a reason Josh and Anna are naming all their kids M names? Same concept as all of the Duggar kids having "J" names.

Also, I love how they comment that 1,000 people isn't a lot when you think about it but when you see it, it's huge. Well yeah... That's because by the time Josie has kids your family alone will be over a thousand people. The kiss was weird, but they're a cute couple. While I find Jim Bob creepy, I find Michelle to be much much worse. 

My comments in bold.

Thank you! Time to look into the Quiverfull movement now

princessofgenovia

jenna8984 said:

The thing that weirds me out about couples who wait for marriage is that EVERYONE knows when they have sex. I mean, if we know that they're waiting for marriage, and they're married, EVERYONE knows that they banged. That would make me feel VERY uncomfortable. Like, it's all anyone can think about. That would make me feel really...uncomfortable and gross.

Same here! I read a blog (may have been posted on here don't remember) about a girl who made it very clear she was waiting to everyone who knew her. She said it had become so much of who she was a person "the good virgin girl" that once she got married and had sex, she felt ashamed and no longer herself since that was her whole identity and now it was gone.

That is probably the saddest thing I've ever heard.

I never gave any weight to my virginty status. I was a virgin, then I had sex, then I wasn't a virgin. Wasn't a big deal to me.