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Well... this is unfortunate: Wedding Dates

edited November 2014 in Chit Chat
So FI and I got engaged in April and have had our date set since June. 
FI's cousin(FMIL's nephew) got engaged I think sometime over the summer, I'm not really sure when because we don't interact much. FMIL got a STD in the mail yesterday for their wedding on the same day as ours.
I feel pretty bad about this because 1) we definitely can't back out on our date now. We've sent in deposits for all of our vendors and I would never ask our wedding party to change weekends at this stage.  
And 2) this is FMIL's nephew. It's not just some random distant cousin.
To both parties defense, we don't interact that much. FI and I live 4 hours from FI's family. We interact with his parents multiple times a week over the phone, but hardly ever with extended families. FMIL and her sister don't even interact a whole lot to be in the same city. Annnnnd FMIL's whole family is a little 'interesting' but that's a post for another day. 
FI is pissed because even being out of town, at least 3 people KNEW our date, FI's grandmother, his aunt (who's son is getting married), and his other aunt. But as I told FI, no one cares about our wedding as much as we do, so I doubt those 3 people ran to their calendars and circled the date as soon as they found out about ours. Plus 2 of those 3 people are HIGHLY unreliable in life in general, so I wouldn't depend on them to remember a date. 
However, one thing that irks me is that FMIL spoke with the bride(marrying FI's cousin) about the wedding because bride wanted FMIL to make her wedding cake  (FMIL makes cakes for a living, she's doing ours too). Why weren't dates mentioned somewhere in that conversation? Something like, "Will you do our cake for the wedding?" "Sure! When is it?" "We're not sure yet, but sometime in the Spring." "Okay that sounds great, I'm free any weekend except X Date, that's lulu and lulu FI's wedding."

This just sucks because again this isn't some distant relative. This is FMIL's nephew. Which means FI's family will have to choose who's wedding to come to. We're getting married where we live, and they're getting married where they all live which is of course 4 hours away just like FMIL and FFIL. FI says he doesn't care if they don't come to ours, but I think really he does. I would be crushed if half my family didn't show up. And they're right to go to the cousin's wedding instead, because I'm assuming they all got STDs this week so they will have known about their's first, and we aren't doing STDs so they won't find out about ours for sure until invites go out in February or March. 

Sorry this is so long-winded, I don't know how all my posts end up like that.
TL;DR: No one in FMIL's family obviously communicates so FI's cousin is getting married the same date as us, in different states.

Edited because my brain was moving faster than my fingers. Also edited the title to make more sense. Edited again in case the other bride is a lurker.
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Re: Well... this is unfortunate: Wedding Dates

  • That really stinks, and I can't believe your FMIL didn't say anything about the date. Have you asked her how she's going to do two cakes at locations four hours apart on the same day?
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  • This really sucks, but I really do question how close you all are if they didn't have it on the calendar/remember. You say it's not a distant relative, but just because they're close up the line in blood doesn't mean they're not distant. 
  • I'm surprised your FMIL didn't say anything about the date when they were discussing cakes. That sucks. 
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    @blabla89‌ That's a good question. It wouldn't surprise me if FMIL did theirs the week of the wedding and delivered it early and then came here to do ours. But really I don't know about that.

    @RebeccaFlower‌ You're right and their family dynamic is really weird. I feel like FMIL would say that they are all distant, but that they probably talk on the phone maybe once a month out of obligation. So I think it's more "I should do this" more than they actually want to do something. Also FI said he could see his grandmother not going to either wedding and saying it's because she doesn't want to pick favorites when really she just isn't interested in going to either one.
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  • lulu411 said:
    @blabla89‌ That's a good question. It wouldn't surprise me if FMIL did theirs the week of the wedding and delivered it early and then came here to do ours. But really I don't know about that.
    Uh yeah...your FI might want to mention that and see what she says. Especially if the other couple is expecting her to set it up at their venue the day of.
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  • That's shitty :(

    I guess what I suggest is either move your date or just deal with some people not coming. Nothing you can do about that.



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  • edited November 2014
    blabla89 said:


    lulu411 said:

    @blabla89‌ That's a good question. It wouldn't surprise me if FMIL did theirs the week of the wedding and delivered it early and then came here to do ours. But really I don't know about that.

    Uh yeah...your FI might want to mention that and see what she says. Especially if the other couple is expecting her to set it up at their venue the day of.


    Yeah FMIL is supposed to be calling them. This is quite the pickle =\
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  • larrygaga said:
    That's shitty :(

    I guess what I suggest is either move your date or just deal with some people not coming. Nothing you can do about that.



    Yeah we're just going to have to deal with people not coming because even if we could change the dj, catering, etc., our venue is booked all next spring. And I don't necessarily mind them choosing to go to the other wedding because they actually had documentation of their wedding first. Yeah, we told everyone we saw what date ours was on, but they've received an actual, tangible object for the other couple's wedding so I respect them going to that one instead. I'm just super bummed for FI. 
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  • That really sucks. But it sounds like there isn't anything that can be done at this point.

    I do want to add that if your FI says he doesn't care he might actually not care. It doesn't sound like they are close. I'm not close with my cousins or really any of my dad's side of the family. I wouldn't care if they missed my wedding. I wouldn't be glad they were missing it but since they aren't really involved in my life I don't think I would miss their presence the day of, if that makes sense. I'm sure he'll have lots of friends and other people he really cares about at the wedding.


  • No advice, just whining.

    That suuccckkkkssssssss!!!

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  • @lulu411, when is your wedding?  Is there any way that you could change the date?  FYI I actually sent out STD's and due to Chinese superstition that it was a bad luck date (My husband and I are Chinese), I was to change the date immediately (it didn't matter to me, this was a demand from the elder in-laws.

    Of course, I was a little peeved and a very embarrassed, but we spoke with all of our vendors and our bridal party and reached out to all of our guests giving them a heads up to see if it was possible and all went well...

    Sorry that you are going through this.
  • I'm sorry. That really sucks :( I don't really have any advice either, I just hope it ends up working out for both of you.
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  • @lulu411, when is your wedding?  Is there any way that you could change the date?  FYI I actually sent out STD's and due to Chinese superstition that it was a bad luck date (My husband and I are Chinese), I was to change the date immediately (it didn't matter to me, this was a demand from the elder in-laws.

    Of course, I was a little peeved and a very embarrassed, but we spoke with all of our vendors and our bridal party and reached out to all of our guests giving them a heads up to see if it was possible and all went well...

    Sorry that you are going through this.
    I don't know much about Chinese culture and so I'm curious - what was your original date, and why is it considered bad luck? Not snarking, I'm just really curious to understand (and sorry to thread-jack, lulu!)
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  • Eh, people suck. Your FMIL probably actually didn't even think about the dates--she probably just said, "Oh yes, I will make your cake, hooray weddings!"

    Don't worry about her delivery of said cakes. She'll be at your wedding (I mean, one would choose one's own son's wedding over one's nephew's, I can only assume). Hopefully enough people who are close to your FI will come so that he feels loved and special. I'm sorry though, this is sucky.
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  • blabla89 said:
    @lulu411, when is your wedding?  Is there any way that you could change the date?  FYI I actually sent out STD's and due to Chinese superstition that it was a bad luck date (My husband and I are Chinese), I was to change the date immediately (it didn't matter to me, this was a demand from the elder in-laws.

    Of course, I was a little peeved and a very embarrassed, but we spoke with all of our vendors and our bridal party and reached out to all of our guests giving them a heads up to see if it was possible and all went well...

    Sorry that you are going through this.
    I don't know much about Chinese culture and so I'm curious - what was your original date, and why is it considered bad luck? Not snarking, I'm just really curious to understand (and sorry to thread-jack, lulu!)
    I'm curious about this too!
    Unfortunately we can't change our date because most of our vendors, including our venue that we were crazy lucky to get within our budget are booked all next spring and I'm not willing to move this more than a few weekends. 

    And after further discussion, apparently this other couple had been informed of our wedding date months ago, and my FMIL also told them the date. Soooo I don't know if they really just didn't care? Maybe they forgot? I have no idea honestly. I've only met this couple once for about 5 minutes so I can't speak to what happened or how they feel about it.
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  • @blabla89 and @lulu411...i can still incorporate this to not break the thread :-)  

    We told everyone save the date 7/20/2013 before STD's were sent out...like EVERYONE.  However, we once the STD's got sent out, we got a call from DH's grandparents telling us that we need to change the date immediately...we were annoyed since they knew about it already, but understood why.  7/20 was the death anniversary of a relative (and in Chinese culture, it's very bad luck to get married on a death anniversary of a family member).  Somehow, the grandparents just realized it once they actually got the STD (even though we kept telling them!).

    It stinks but we were able to contact our venue, church, and our other vendors and all find a date that all could be available and was not charged for the date change (this was January/February 2013)...we got married in 8/10/2013 so the vendors were happy they were able to fill up that spot.

    If it's a possibility lulu, you might want to check out if your vendors/venue have other dates available that you won't be charged extra for?
  • lulu411 said:
    blabla89 said:
    @lulu411, when is your wedding?  Is there any way that you could change the date?  FYI I actually sent out STD's and due to Chinese superstition that it was a bad luck date (My husband and I are Chinese), I was to change the date immediately (it didn't matter to me, this was a demand from the elder in-laws.

    Of course, I was a little peeved and a very embarrassed, but we spoke with all of our vendors and our bridal party and reached out to all of our guests giving them a heads up to see if it was possible and all went well...

    Sorry that you are going through this.
    I don't know much about Chinese culture and so I'm curious - what was your original date, and why is it considered bad luck? Not snarking, I'm just really curious to understand (and sorry to thread-jack, lulu!)
    I'm curious about this too!
    Unfortunately we can't change our date because most of our vendors, including our venue that we were crazy lucky to get within our budget are booked all next spring and I'm not willing to move this more than a few weekends. 

    And after further discussion, apparently this other couple had been informed of our wedding date months ago, and my FMIL also told them the date. Soooo I don't know if they really just didn't care? Maybe they forgot? I have no idea honestly. I've only met this couple once for about 5 minutes so I can't speak to what happened or how they feel about it.
    @lulu411 Whoops just realized this right after i posted...UGH that sucks!  Like WTF yeah if I were you, I'd prob just won't even care to change it after the other couple decided to NOT CARE EITHER!
  • @blabla89 and @lulu411...i can still incorporate this to not break the thread :-)  

    We told everyone save the date 7/20/2013 before STD's were sent out...like EVERYONE.  However, we once the STD's got sent out, we got a call from DH's grandparents telling us that we need to change the date immediately...we were annoyed since they knew about it already, but understood why.  7/20 was the death anniversary of a relative (and in Chinese culture, it's very bad luck to get married on a death anniversary of a family member).  Somehow, the grandparents just realized it once they actually got the STD (even though we kept telling them!).

    It stinks but we were able to contact our venue, church, and our other vendors and all find a date that all could be available and was not charged for the date change (this was January/February 2013)...we got married in 8/10/2013 so the vendors were happy they were able to fill up that spot.

    If it's a possibility lulu, you might want to check out if your vendors/venue have other dates available that you won't be charged extra for?
    That makes sense. I wouldn't want to get married on the anniversary of a loved one's passing, either.
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  • I hate to say it, but with your new info about them knowing the date, I think they probably sent the STD's out with the intention of getting it out there ahead of you.  They wanted people to choose theirs because they wanted that date, they didn't care you had chosen it months before.  I would be hurt if I was your FI, especially since you now know they did have your info ahead of the decision. I would go ahead and have a wonderful day, you don't need the headache of changing things anyway.  I do feel bad for your FI, even if he's saying it doesn't, it has to sting.
    QFT. This was my first thought.
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  • After even more discussion, I don't think they maliciously picked the same date and sent out STDs, I think they are just maybe clueless. FMIL said they all had a conversation months ago about me and FI's date, and at that point they hadnt set a date yet. They remembered our month but not our particular day, and for some reason didn't think to check. A lot of the family has said they are going to come to ours because they knew about it first, but I really hate that people are going to have to choose when this was easily avoidable.
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  • lulu411 said:
    After even more discussion, I don't think they maliciously picked the same date and sent out STDs, I think they are just maybe clueless. FMIL said they all had a conversation months ago about me and FI's date, and at that point they hadnt set a date yet. They remembered our month but not our particular day, and for some reason didn't think to check. A lot of the family has said they are going to come to ours because they knew about it first, but I really hate that people are going to have to choose when this was easily avoidable.
    So why can't they change the date if they recently started planning?

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  • luckya23 said:
    lulu411 said:
    After even more discussion, I don't think they maliciously picked the same date and sent out STDs, I think they are just maybe clueless. FMIL said they all had a conversation months ago about me and FI's date, and at that point they hadnt set a date yet. They remembered our month but not our particular day, and for some reason didn't think to check. A lot of the family has said they are going to come to ours because they knew about it first, but I really hate that people are going to have to choose when this was easily avoidable.
    So why can't they change the date if they recently started planning?
    I would guess for the same reasons OP can't- deposits are made, vendors, booked, etc.

    I wouldn't send out STDs if I didn't have things solidly booked with deposits down.

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  • I'd be willing to bet they didn't do it maliciously, but hit the same problem as you - all the other weekends were booked, they could get this date, then probably remembered yours and shrugged it off because you're not close. Not every family member is a VIP... I only checked with immediate family when I booked my date. Turned out my step-sister was in another wedding that day, so she had to miss mine. Oh well, wasn't going to change it.

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    I'd be willing to bet they didn't do it maliciously, but hit the same problem as you - all the other weekends were booked, they could get this date, then probably remembered yours and shrugged it off because you're not close. Not every family member is a VIP... I only checked with immediate family when I booked my date. Turned out my step-sister was in another wedding that day, so she had to miss mine. Oh well, wasn't going to change it.
    Yeah I feel like this is probably what happened. We aren't close so we weren't even expecting them to attend our wedding, and I'm assuming we aren't even invited to theirs since we didn't a STD lol so it's not a huge deal. My main concern was for the people who would have to make a choice on which one to attend. If they-the guests- are worried about it, I hope they ask me or FMIL (because I told her too) so I can tell them I won't be upset if they go to the other wedding. Ours is 4 hours away from their home and a lot of people will have known about theirs first because of the STDs.
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  • edited November 2014
    lulu411 said:
    I'd be willing to bet they didn't do it maliciously, but hit the same problem as you - all the other weekends were booked, they could get this date, then probably remembered yours and shrugged it off because you're not close. Not every family member is a VIP... I only checked with immediate family when I booked my date. Turned out my step-sister was in another wedding that day, so she had to miss mine. Oh well, wasn't going to change it.
    Yeah I feel like this is probably what happened. We aren't close so we weren't even expecting them to attend our wedding, and I'm assuming we aren't even invited to theirs since we didn't a STD lol so it's not a huge deal. My main concern was for the people who would have to make a choice on which one to attend. If they-the guests- are worried about it, I hope they ask me or FMIL (because I told her too) so I can tell them I won't be upset if they go to the other wedding. Ours is 4 hours away from their home and a lot of people will have known about theirs first because of the STDs.
    Honestly, if anyone ever told me that I would feel like they didn't want me to come to their wedding.

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  • lulu411 said:
    I'd be willing to bet they didn't do it maliciously, but hit the same problem as you - all the other weekends were booked, they could get this date, then probably remembered yours and shrugged it off because you're not close. Not every family member is a VIP... I only checked with immediate family when I booked my date. Turned out my step-sister was in another wedding that day, so she had to miss mine. Oh well, wasn't going to change it.
    Yeah I feel like this is probably what happened. We aren't close so we weren't even expecting them to attend our wedding, and I'm assuming we aren't even invited to theirs since we didn't a STD lol so it's not a huge deal. My main concern was for the people who would have to make a choice on which one to attend. If they-the guests- are worried about it, I hope they ask me or FMIL (because I told her too) so I can tell them I won't be upset if they go to the other wedding. Ours is 4 hours away from their home and a lot of people will have known about theirs first because of the STDs.
    Honestly, if anyone ever told me that I would feel like they didn't want me to come to their wedding.
    Really? That's good to know because that's not what I mean at all. I'm just trying to be as easygoing as possible about the situation. But if saying that is offensive I definitely won't do it. Which, I also feel like if someone did ask me if I'd be upset, that might be their way of trying to get me to let them 'off the hook'. But instead of assuming what they mean or I mean, I'm just gonna go with it. I know people are capable of making decisions for themselves :)
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  • lulu411 said:
    lulu411 said:
    I'd be willing to bet they didn't do it maliciously, but hit the same problem as you - all the other weekends were booked, they could get this date, then probably remembered yours and shrugged it off because you're not close. Not every family member is a VIP... I only checked with immediate family when I booked my date. Turned out my step-sister was in another wedding that day, so she had to miss mine. Oh well, wasn't going to change it.
    Yeah I feel like this is probably what happened. We aren't close so we weren't even expecting them to attend our wedding, and I'm assuming we aren't even invited to theirs since we didn't a STD lol so it's not a huge deal. My main concern was for the people who would have to make a choice on which one to attend. If they-the guests- are worried about it, I hope they ask me or FMIL (because I told her too) so I can tell them I won't be upset if they go to the other wedding. Ours is 4 hours away from their home and a lot of people will have known about theirs first because of the STDs.
    Honestly, if anyone ever told me that I would feel like they didn't want me to come to their wedding.
    Really? That's good to know because that's not what I mean at all. I'm just trying to be as easygoing as possible about the situation. But if saying that is offensive I definitely won't do it. Which, I also feel like if someone did ask me if I'd be upset, that might be their way of trying to get me to let them 'off the hook'. But instead of assuming what they mean or I mean, I'm just gonna go with it. I know people are capable of making decisions for themselves :)
    I can't speak for everyone, and I do tend to be overly paranoid about stuff like that, so take that with a grain of salt. 

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