I don't know if etiquette says anything, but I always put the name of the person I know "better" first.
Thank you! I am doing that. Also with my husbands friends that he doesn't know or remember the wife's name I'm just writing (i/e) "Mr. & Mrs. Klaus Schwaggner"
Thanks again @JennyColada
This is the traditional way to address married couples. Are you using something different?
I don't know if etiquette says anything, but I always put the name of the person I know "better" first.
Thank you! I am doing that. Also with my husbands friends that he doesn't know or remember the wife's name I'm just writing (i/e) "Mr. & Mrs. Klaus Schwaggner"
Thanks again @JennyColada
This is the traditional way to address married couples. Are you using something different?
I am using for example : Mr. Klaus & Mrs. Regina Schwaggner
if I know the wife's name.
This is not proper. If you MUST include the wife's first name, it is this:
Ms. Regina Schwaggner and Mr. Klaus Schwaggner (on the same line).
You must not separate the man's first name from his last name. I personally, prefer the traditional Mr. and Mrs. Klaus Schwaggner, as do many married couples. If I know that they prefer the other listing, then I use it, but it is not the default form.
Personally, I like Mrs. Jennifer & Mr Armen Lastname. I don't really like being referred to as just
"Armen's wife". I think an instance, however, that I'd be ok with this is if it were one of Armen's friends that I didn't really know well (in which case I think "Mr and Mrs Armen Lastname" would be totally cool with me). But it in all other cases I'd like my name used.
As I have explained many times, "Mrs. Armen Smith" is not your name. It is your title. Your name is Jennifer Smith. Mrs. Jennifer Smith usually indicates a divorcee. Ms. Jennifer Smith and Mr. Armen Smith is perfectly acceptable. Mr. Armen and Mrs. Jennifer Smith is not.
As I have explained many times, "Mrs. Armen Smith" is not your name. It is your title. Your name is Jennifer Smith. Mrs. Jennifer Smith usually indicates a divorcee. Ms. Jennifer Smith and Mr. Armen Smith is perfectly acceptable. Mr. Armen and Mrs. Jennifer Smith is not.
I don't think that anyone here is disagreeing with you. You don't have to sound so exacerbated about it.
As I have explained many times, "Mrs. Armen Smith" is not your name. It is your title. Your name is Jennifer Smith. Mrs. Jennifer Smith usually indicates a divorcee. Ms. Jennifer Smith and Mr. Armen Smith is perfectly acceptable. Mr. Armen and Mrs. Jennifer Smith is not.
Why does she go from Mrs. to Ms. even though she took her husband's last name (presumably that it is his and not her's)?
As I have explained many times, "Mrs. Armen Smith" is not your name. It is your title. Your name is Jennifer Smith. Mrs. Jennifer Smith usually indicates a divorcee. Ms. Jennifer Smith and Mr. Armen Smith is perfectly acceptable. Mr. Armen and Mrs. Jennifer Smith is not.
Why does she go from Mrs. to Ms. even though she took her husband's last name (presumably that it is his and not her's)?
"Mrs" is a title. A married woman's title was traditionally Mrs. John Smith, but her name would be Mary Smith. A lady never signs her title, but it was how she was addressed. In the 1970's the feminist movement encouraged women to use their names, especially in business. The new title "Ms." simply indicated "female" without any marital status, just as "Mr." means "male". It is no longer considered rude to address a woman's mail by her given name, but it would have horrified ladies before WWII. It would have been considered too familiar and rather rude. This is still the case in some European countries. Mrs. Mary Smith traditionally indicated a divorced woman. I, personally like mail that is addressed to both of us to be Mr. and Mrs. John Smith. I'm traditional. If mail is addressed to me alone, it can be Mrs. John Smith, or Ms. Mary Smith. I hate just Mary Smith. That is how junk mail is addressed. I would not like Mrs. Mary Smith, either, because I am not divorced, but I know several divorced ladies with children who do like this. For the feminists who care, there is nothing wrong with Ms. Mary Smith and Mr. John Smith, instead of Mr. and Mrs. John Smith, but both persons get their last name, whether it be the same, or not.
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No "and" between names of people who are not married to each other, and their names are on separate lines. Ladies first.
Ms. Regina Schwaggner and Mr. Klaus Schwaggner (on the same line).
You must not separate the man's first name from his last name. I personally, prefer the traditional Mr. and Mrs. Klaus Schwaggner, as do many married couples. If I know that they prefer the other listing, then I use it, but it is not the default form.
Ms. Jennifer Smith and Mr. Armen Smith is perfectly acceptable.
Mr. Armen and Mrs. Jennifer Smith is not.
In the 1970's the feminist movement encouraged women to use their names, especially in business. The new title "Ms." simply indicated "female" without any marital status, just as "Mr." means "male". It is no longer considered rude to address a woman's mail by her given name, but it would have horrified ladies before WWII. It would have been considered too familiar and rather rude. This is still the case in some European countries.
Mrs. Mary Smith traditionally indicated a divorced woman.
I, personally like mail that is addressed to both of us to be Mr. and Mrs. John Smith. I'm traditional. If mail is addressed to me alone, it can be Mrs. John Smith, or Ms. Mary Smith. I hate just Mary Smith. That is how junk mail is addressed. I would not like Mrs. Mary Smith, either, because I am not divorced, but I know several divorced ladies with children who do like this.
For the feminists who care, there is nothing wrong with Ms. Mary Smith and Mr. John Smith, instead of Mr. and Mrs. John Smith, but both persons get their last name, whether it be the same, or not.