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  • esstee33 said:
    esstee33 said:
    beethery said:
    By that same side of the coin, if an egg and sperm join up and, without the aid of any outside intervention via chemicals/etc, do NOT implant and instead leave the uterus, say, during menstruation, does that count as a miscarriage?

    I mean, sure, egg + sperm is generally termed as pregnancy, but it's not going to 'take' unless the fertilized egg attaches to the lining. Right? Everything I'm reading says implantation of a fertilized egg will take place within 6-10 days of ovulation and that's when pregnancy begins.
    I'm not a doctor, so I can't say with authority what the medical term is.  However, at that point, a woman would never know if she was pregnant since an HPT wouldn't confirm pregnancy that early.  (My NFP instructor tells me to wait until 10 days post-peak to test).  

    I don't think it's technically a miscarriage.


    Maybe this question is a whole other can of worms, but a NFP instructor? For what? 
    NFP = Natural Family Planning.  It's when a couple monitor's a woman's cycle to identify when she is fertilie.  I work with an instructor who reviews my charts (yes, I make a daily observation on my chart) to help me and my husband to identify when I'm fertile.  

    Some couples use NFP to try to conceive, and some use it to space out their pregnancies.  
    Maybe I've totally misunderstood your previous posts re: birth control, but I thought NFP was not cool according to Catholicism? Or is that just when it's used for birth control? 
    http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/marriage-and-family/natural-family-planning/
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  • esstee33 said:
    esstee33 said:
    beethery said:
    By that same side of the coin, if an egg and sperm join up and, without the aid of any outside intervention via chemicals/etc, do NOT implant and instead leave the uterus, say, during menstruation, does that count as a miscarriage?

    I mean, sure, egg + sperm is generally termed as pregnancy, but it's not going to 'take' unless the fertilized egg attaches to the lining. Right? Everything I'm reading says implantation of a fertilized egg will take place within 6-10 days of ovulation and that's when pregnancy begins.
    I'm not a doctor, so I can't say with authority what the medical term is.  However, at that point, a woman would never know if she was pregnant since an HPT wouldn't confirm pregnancy that early.  (My NFP instructor tells me to wait until 10 days post-peak to test).  

    I don't think it's technically a miscarriage.


    Maybe this question is a whole other can of worms, but a NFP instructor? For what? 
    NFP = Natural Family Planning.  It's when a couple monitor's a woman's cycle to identify when she is fertilie.  I work with an instructor who reviews my charts (yes, I make a daily observation on my chart) to help me and my husband to identify when I'm fertile.  

    Some couples use NFP to try to conceive, and some use it to space out their pregnancies.  
    Maybe I've totally misunderstood your previous posts re: birth control, but I thought NFP was not cool according to Catholicism? Or is that just when it's used for birth control? 
    NFP is totally cool for Catholics.  If a couple has a reason to space pregnancies (and let's face it, many do), NFP is the morally acceptable way to go.
  • @holyguacamole Ah, I see. 

    @southernbelle0915 Thanks -- super informative. 
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