Smart?

CMGragain

I need to read this article first thing every morning!  I wanted to share.


http://www.succeedsocially.com/intellectual

VulgarGirl

lovemesomemonster

I'm confused.. are you telling us that you are super intellectual? 

I must be really dumb because I'm not getting anything out of this, I'm just going to keep being me and say fuck it if someone doesn't like that.. 

VulgarGirl

CMGragain

I think all of the regs on The Knot are smart.

beachyone15

VulgarGirl said:

Yeah, I don't feel a need to change who I am, or hide my personality, to make people like me more.

Either they like me, or they don't. Some good advice I got "It's ok that not everyone likes you, you don't like everyone". 

LOVE this.

lovegood90

Most of these "mistakes by intellectuals" are actually "how people act when they have an inflated sense of self" or "how people act when they are actually super insecure so they feel the need to put themselves above others by being condescending and a general douchebag."

VulgarGirl

CMGragain

I used a lot of this when raising my children.  They were taken out of the general public school population and sent to nerd school, kind of like "Malcolm in the Middle".  I didn't want them to get the idea that being smart made them any better than other people.  I still like the article.  My daughter sent it to me.

VulgarGirl

novella1186

lovegood90 said:

Most of these "mistakes by intellectuals" are actually "how people act when they have an inflated sense of self" or "how people act when they are actually super insecure so they feel the need to put themselves above others by being condescending and a general douchebag."

A lot of these are things my dad does. He's the biggest narcissist I've ever met in my life, and a total asshole. I don't think he does these things cuz he's smart. I think he does them cuz he's an asshole. And this is why I don't speak to him anymore unless I absolutely have to. 

CMGragain

VulgarGirl said:

CMGragain said:

I used a lot of this when raising my children.  They were taken out of the general public school population and sent to nerd school, kind of like "Malcolm in the Middle".  I didn't want them to get the idea that being smart made them any better than other people.  I still like the article.  My daughter sent it to me.

Wow. Wow. Just. Holy fuck. Wow.

Yo, my parents are far from perfect but praise whatever deity is listing they didn't call my gifted classes "nerd" classes. 

Well, that is what my kids, and the other students in that school, called themselves.  With the rise of the nerd or geek culture, that term seems to have become more acceptable in their circles.

[Deleted User]

As someone who works at a tech company, I can back up PPs in saying that usually, people who do this shit are just asshats.

"Inappropriately correcting people" and "Being argumentative" are my favorites. My boss does this ALL. THE. TIME. including to clients. He will argue about anything and everything, EVEN when he is WRONG. He will literally argue about something completely incorrect and be incorrect and still argue. And he turns it around to make it seem like you're just too stupid to understand. I've gotten to the point where I just find it amusing. It's his company, so if he wants to scare away clients...then be my guest? 

That being said, I've met absolutely brilliant people who are sweet and kind and wonderful. 

And FTR, I'm not talking about being with actual social impairment. There is a difference between being bad at socializing and just being an asshole. 

VulgarGirl

CMGragain

abcdevonn said:

As someone who works at a tech company, I can back up PPs in saying that usually, people who do this shit are just asshats.

"Inappropriately correcting people" and "Being argumentative" are my favorites. My boss does this ALL. THE. TIME. including to clients. He will argue about anything and everything, EVEN when he is WRONG. He will literally argue about something completely incorrect and be incorrect and still argue. And he turns it around to make it seem like you're just too stupid to understand. I've gotten to the point where I just find it amusing. It's his company, so if he wants to scare away clients...then be my guest? 

That being said, I've met absolutely brilliant people who are sweet and kind and wonderful. 

And FTR, I'm not talking about being with actual social impairment. There is a difference between being bad at socializing and just being an asshole. 

Yes, I agree.  These people are exhibiting learned behavior.  I used to cringe at some of the parents in that school who would openly brag about their kid's IQ score in front of the child.  The school science fair was the worst.  The parents were competing - not the kids.  The teachers were very aware of which kids did their own work, and which kids submitted the parent-do projects.  My son (now age 33)still needs reminding, and life often gives him just that kick in the butt that he needs.

lovegood90

abcdevonn said:

As someone who works at a tech company, I can back up PPs in saying that usually, people who do this shit are just asshats.

"Inappropriately correcting people" and "Being argumentative" are my favorites. My boss does this ALL. THE. TIME. including to clients. He will argue about anything and everything, EVEN when he is WRONG. He will literally argue about something completely incorrect and be incorrect and still argue. And he turns it around to make it seem like you're just too stupid to understand. I've gotten to the point where I just find it amusing. It's his company, so if he wants to scare away clients...then be my guest? 

That being said, I've met absolutely brilliant people who are sweet and kind and wonderful. 

And FTR, I'm not talking about being with actual social impairment. There is a difference between being bad at socializing and just being an asshole. 

The bolded is so true. My dad has worked with a ton of "book smart" people through his job - ie people with nuclear physics PHD's and whatnot (he's not part of this group of people BTW). He said  the most intellectual people he's met are the most humble and kind he's ever met as well. On the flip side, the ones who are loud, obnoxious and who try to flaunt how much they know are the ones who are actually really stupid.

And I definitely agree with him - if you have to tell others how smart you are, then you're really not.

MrsMack10612

VulgarGirl said:

CMGragain said:

VulgarGirl said:

CMGragain said:

I used a lot of this when raising my children.  They were taken out of the general public school population and sent to nerd school, kind of like "Malcolm in the Middle".  I didn't want them to get the idea that being smart made them any better than other people.  I still like the article.  My daughter sent it to me.

Wow. Wow. Just. Holy fuck. Wow.

Yo, my parents are far from perfect but praise whatever deity is listing they didn't call my gifted classes "nerd" classes. 

Well, that is what my kids, and the other students in that school, called themselves.  With the rise of the nerd or geek culture, that term seems to have become more acceptable in their circles.

Yeah and I call myself a dyke. But you refer to me as one I'll read you the fucking riot act.

You aren't part of the group, you don't use the words. 

Doesn't that create a horrible double standard?  If a word is offensive, it should be offensive regardless of who uses it?  I do understand your point, but feel that if we allow any one, whether they belong to the group or not, to continue to use offensive words, we may never stop the use of those words.

TrixieJess

MrsMack10612 said:

VulgarGirl said:

CMGragain said:

VulgarGirl said:

CMGragain said:

I used a lot of this when raising my children.  They were taken out of the general public school population and sent to nerd school, kind of like "Malcolm in the Middle".  I didn't want them to get the idea that being smart made them any better than other people.  I still like the article.  My daughter sent it to me.

Wow. Wow. Just. Holy fuck. Wow.

Yo, my parents are far from perfect but praise whatever deity is listing they didn't call my gifted classes "nerd" classes. 

Well, that is what my kids, and the other students in that school, called themselves.  With the rise of the nerd or geek culture, that term seems to have become more acceptable in their circles.

Yeah and I call myself a dyke. But you refer to me as one I'll read you the fucking riot act.

You aren't part of the group, you don't use the words. 

Doesn't that create a horrible double standard?  If a word is offensive, it should be offensive regardless of who uses it?  I do understand your point, but feel that if we allow any one, whether they belong to the group or not, to continue to use offensive words, we may never stop the use of those words.

It's reappropriation. It's the cultural take back of a word that was deemed offensive by the group that it was aimed at. It's to take the sting and bite out of the word and give it a different meaning. 

Yes there are words that should never be reappropriated, but then there are others that can be. T

redheadbride15

lovegood90 said:

Most of these "mistakes by intellectuals" are actually "how people act when they have an inflated sense of self" or "how people act when they are actually super insecure so they feel the need to put themselves above others by being condescending and a general douchebag."

These were exactly my thoughts when I skimmed through this article, which I actually found sort of offensive and I couldn't even read through the whole thing. I consider myself an "intellectual" and "smart" (whatever those things mean), but I would not suggest that this makes me any better than anyone else. Everything here is total common sense - basically don't belittle others or be generally obnoxious. It's as simple as that.

CMGragain

Not everything has to be about being gay, does it?

VulgarGirl

CMGragain said:

Not everything has to be about being gay, does it?

KatieinBkln

CMGragain said:

Not everything has to be about being gay, does it?

Weird that in the very thread where you call yourself an intellectual, you fail to notice when someone is making an analogy.

But I don't think you failed to notice. I think you're being mean for the sake of it. A lovely quality.

photokitty

But I'm still not allowed to call myself fat, bc it's not cute - right??? Even though I'm fat, fine with being fat and it's who I am??? Cool double standard.

I didn't realize "nerd" was a bad word now, but then I was pretty shocked with I learned "lady" was a bad word also.

Thank God (or whatever diety you choose to worship, or not worship, or ignore, or not believe in - spaghetti monster forbid I offend the faint of heart over religion) I have TK to tell me what words are now insults. I have never used the D or N words referenced in this thread, as they are obviously not words I should ever use nor would I want to, but I didn't know using "nerd" made me an asshat as well - good to know.

Can I get a cheat sheet? I can't remember if I'm allowed to call myself a girl since I can't say lady.

Please help.

Confused and Concerned in IDGAF, USA

VulgarGirl

photokitty

VulgarGirl said:

photokitty said:

But I'm still not allowed to call myself fat, bc it's not cute - right??? Even though I'm fat, fine with being fat and it's who I am??? Cool double standard.

I didn't realize "nerd" was a bad word now, but then I was pretty shocked with I learned "lady" was a bad word also.

Thank God (or whatever diety you choose to worship, or not worship, or ignore, or not believe in - spaghetti monster forbid I offend the faint of heart over religion) I have TK to tell me what words are now insults. I have never used the D or N words referenced in this thread, as they are obviously not words I should ever use nor would I want to, but I didn't know using "nerd" made me an asshat as well - good to know.

Can I get a cheat sheet? I can't remember if I'm allowed to call myself a girl since I can't say lady.

Please help.

Confused and Concerned in IDGAF, USA

The word nerd has a lot of negative connotations associated with it. I was suprised a mother would refer to children as attending "nerd school". Of course this same mother refers to her son as paying "stupid tax" so whatever. Her kids are stupid nerds and she lets them know it.

And for FFS in one thread I made the comment that the phrase "little lady" next to the phrase "little man" bothered me. Not that the word lady itself is wrong or bad. But the connotations behind the words of big strong little man and sweet little lady bothers me. In a thread. Where I asked my opinion. I gave it. And have been told many times over that it was so wrong to say that. And that my real problem is that I dislike the word lady. Which is never what I said.

You mean what you said was misunderstood in a thread? That NEVER happens on TK, nope never. 

You mean your opinion isn't the law of the land? I thought all opinions expressed on TK were immediately added to the Bill of Rights or some other infallible documentation archive. 

Maybe, people who don't want people dragging up their FFS moments, shouldn't drag out other people's on a regular basis, or not - it's a free country. But for the rest of us, it gets old and boring. AND it does absolutely nothing. 

Certain posters on TK will never go away, they will outlast each other, a nuclear apocalypse, all the cockroaches and any twinkies left. 

The rest of us get it, some people on TK don't like each other - BUT do the rest of us have to read about it every. single. fucking. day?

While I don't agree with some of the opinions expressed by CMG, I have never once questioned if she loves her children. There are multiple posts that show how much she loves them. To the bold, I find it highly offensive that you claim to know that her kids they are stupid nerds and she lets them know it.

MyNameIsNot

What's wrong with lady? (Or did I miss something?)

To be perfectly honest, I wish everyone would stop calling grown women girls. We wouldn't refer to a grown man as a boy. Infantilizing women and all that. 

ShesSoCold

VulgarGirl said:

photokitty said:

But I'm still not allowed to call myself fat, bc it's not cute - right??? Even though I'm fat, fine with being fat and it's who I am??? Cool double standard.

I didn't realize "nerd" was a bad word now, but then I was pretty shocked with I learned "lady" was a bad word also.

Thank God (or whatever diety you choose to worship, or not worship, or ignore, or not believe in - spaghetti monster forbid I offend the faint of heart over religion) I have TK to tell me what words are now insults. I have never used the D or N words referenced in this thread, as they are obviously not words I should ever use nor would I want to, but I didn't know using "nerd" made me an asshat as well - good to know.

Can I get a cheat sheet? I can't remember if I'm allowed to call myself a girl since I can't say lady.

Please help.

Confused and Concerned in IDGAF, USA

The word nerd has a lot of negative connotations associated with it. I was suprised a mother would refer to children as attending "nerd school". Of course this same mother refers to her son as paying "stupid tax" so whatever. Her kids are stupid nerds and she lets them know it.

And for FFS in one thread I made the comment that the phrase "little lady" next to the phrase "little man" bothered me. Not that the word lady itself is wrong or bad. But the connotations behind the words of big strong little man and sweet little lady bothers me. In a thread. Where I asked my opinion. I gave it. And have been told many times over that it was so wrong to say that. And that my real problem is that I dislike the word lady. Which is never what I said.

Seriously? Holy pot - kettle situation here, Batman. You're upset that we remember your offense and twisted your words regarding the word "lady" in a previous post, but immediately before that you twist CMGr's words and bring up her previous posts? How does this make sense?

VulgarGirl

VulgarGirl

photokitty

VulgarGirl said:

photokitty said:

While I don't agree with some of the opinions expressed by CMG, I have never once questioned if she loves her children. There are multiple posts that show how much she loves them. To the bold, I find it highly offensive that you claim to know that her kids they are stupid nerds and she lets them know it.

Never said she didn't love her kids. But she said her son pays what they call "stupid tax" and that her children attended "nerd school". Like...recently. These aren't even old posts.

Please tell me where she said she tells her kids they are stupid nerds? You said this, not her. It is not ok for you to say it. She has never called her son stupid, she said he has done stupid things on occasion. Just bc someone says something on TK doesn't mean they say it out loud IRL - SHOCKER, I know...

CMG can say certain things about her family, that you cannot - is that analogy a familiar one? 

My mom can tell me I did something stupid, without calling me stupid - aka stupid tax. If my mom called me a nerd, she has, it's not offensive. 

Perhaps you should stop deciding what other people should find offensive. Like if I call myself fat, I don't need users on TK getting all defensive of me, for me.

The rest of us don't really need you to save us from CMG or anyone else on TK, so you can stop acting like you're doing us all a big favor following her around throwing shade. It's boring and not cute. And based on the number of responses, pretty uninteresting to the majority of posters.

VulgarGirl