Presidential Debate

hellohkb

Anyone else watching? I am far left but am interested in hearing all sides so I am glued to the TV. I love election season, it's such an exciting time for me.


Let's talk about it!

lyndausvi

I'm not watching it.  I generally do, but not this far out.   Waiting for the pack to thin out a little.

AprilH81

I am.  I'm Libertarian/Conservative...

Trump is an egotistical ass but is getting cheers because he isn't being "polite".

I like Rand Paul but he's gotten caught in a few "gotcha" jabs from Chris Christie.

Ted Cruz is a likable guy but is coming of as "slick".

Jeb Bush looks kind of lost and isn't really making any good points.

Ben Carson just isn't cut out for national politics.

Kasich (I'm from Ohio) is talking too much policy and losing the average political viewer.  Although I doubt the "average" political viewer is watching a primary debate.

luckya23

I don't have cable anymore, so I'm finishing up Marriage Boot Camp: Bridezillas.  Fun times!

lyndausvi

AprilH81 said:

I am.  I'm Libertarian/Conservative...

Trump is an egotistical ass but is getting cheers because he isn't being "polite".

I like Rand Paul but he's gotten caught in a few "gotcha" jabs from Chris Christie.

Ted Cruz is a likable guy but is coming of as "slick".

Jeb Bush looks kind of lost and isn't really making any good points.

Ben Carson just isn't cut out for national politics.

Kasich (I'm from Ohio) is talking too much policy and losing the average political viewer.  Although I doubt the "average" political viewer is watching a primary debate.

well thank you for the recap. 

 I'm slightly surprised by Jeb, but on the whole it's pretty much how I thought it would turn out.

AprilH81

lyndausvi said:

AprilH81 said:

I am.  I'm Libertarian/Conservative...

Trump is an egotistical ass but is getting cheers because he isn't being "polite".

I like Rand Paul but he's gotten caught in a few "gotcha" jabs from Chris Christie.

Ted Cruz is a likable guy but is coming of as "slick".

Jeb Bush looks kind of lost and isn't really making any good points.

Ben Carson just isn't cut out for national politics.

Kasich (I'm from Ohio) is talking too much policy and losing the average political viewer.  Although I doubt the "average" political viewer is watching a primary debate.

well thank you for the recap. 

 I'm slightly surprised by Jeb, but on the whole it's pretty much how I thought it would turn out.

Rubio is speaking well but I don't agree with him on everything.

Huckabee and Walker haven't had a chance to do much.

So far no one has had any major blunders except Trump (at least from a conservative standpoint).  There are so many candidates on the stage that we aren't getting down to the nitty gritty because they have such limited time to speak.

I like FOX News, but every time they ask Trump a question it seems like they are taunting him into making a fool out of himself and he is stepping into the trap.  The other candidates are getting hard policy questions but they aren't "gotcha" questions like Trump is getting.  They aren't usually this biased.

lyndausvi

AprilH81 said:

lyndausvi said:

AprilH81 said:

I am.  I'm Libertarian/Conservative...

Trump is an egotistical ass but is getting cheers because he isn't being "polite".

I like Rand Paul but he's gotten caught in a few "gotcha" jabs from Chris Christie.

Ted Cruz is a likable guy but is coming of as "slick".

Jeb Bush looks kind of lost and isn't really making any good points.

Ben Carson just isn't cut out for national politics.

Kasich (I'm from Ohio) is talking too much policy and losing the average political viewer.  Although I doubt the "average" political viewer is watching a primary debate.

well thank you for the recap. 

 I'm slightly surprised by Jeb, but on the whole it's pretty much how I thought it would turn out.

Rubio is speaking well but I don't agree with him on everything.

Huckabee and Walker haven't had a chance to do much.

So far no one has had any major blunders except Trump (at least from a conservative standpoint).  There are so many candidates on the stage that we aren't getting down to the nitty gritty because they have such limited time to speak.

I like FOX News, but every time they ask Trump a question it seems like they are taunting him into making a fool out of himself and he is stepping into the trap.  The other candidates are getting hard policy questions but they aren't "gotcha" questions like Trump is getting.  They aren't usually this biased.

this is kind of why I didn't bother to watch.   I saw the beginning. what 1 min and 30 sec rebuts?

[Deleted User]

FOX news not biased?!

https://youtu.be/X-5z_CAaC7Y

hellohkb

Rand Paul's weird snarky jabs were so bizarre. When Chris Christie (or anyone else) shot back he cowered and wouldn't make eye contact. It's just really strange IMO.

AprilH81

hellohkb said:

Rand Paul's weird snarky jabs were so bizarre. When Chris Christie (or anyone else) shot back he cowered and wouldn't make eye contact. It's just really strange IMO.

I suspect he is trying to keep control of his temper. He is passionate about small government and stopping the government from large scale spying on American citizens without a warrant and Chris Christie is a big government, pro NSA politician.

I agree with Paul, but his temper and flippant remarks are going to hurt him long term.

lyndausvi

FeeleyToBe said:

FOX news not biased?! https://youtu.be/X-5z_CAaC7Y

nope, not one bit.  Like at all.  They are totally unbiased. 

themosthappy91

AprilH81 said:

lyndausvi said:

AprilH81 said:

I am.  I'm Libertarian/Conservative...

Trump is an egotistical ass but is getting cheers because he isn't being "polite".

I like Rand Paul but he's gotten caught in a few "gotcha" jabs from Chris Christie.

Ted Cruz is a likable guy but is coming of as "slick".

Jeb Bush looks kind of lost and isn't really making any good points.

Ben Carson just isn't cut out for national politics.

Kasich (I'm from Ohio) is talking too much policy and losing the average political viewer.  Although I doubt the "average" political viewer is watching a primary debate.

well thank you for the recap. 

 I'm slightly surprised by Jeb, but on the whole it's pretty much how I thought it would turn out.

Rubio is speaking well but I don't agree with him on everything.

Huckabee and Walker haven't had a chance to do much.

So far no one has had any major blunders except Trump (at least from a conservative standpoint).  There are so many candidates on the stage that we aren't getting down to the nitty gritty because they have such limited time to speak.

I like FOX News, but every time they ask Trump a question it seems like they are taunting him into making a fool out of himself and he is stepping into the trap.  The other candidates are getting hard policy questions but they aren't "gotcha" questions like Trump is getting.  They aren't usually this biased.

Lol.

My friends and I are trying to figure out who each candidate would be in the world of Game of Thrones.

madamerwin

We watched, and we played debate bingo: http://www.newsweek.com/ultimate-republican-president-candidate-drinking-game-gop-debate-bingo-360515

MairePoppy

I tried, but couldn't get past Donald Trump telling Jeb Bush to build that wall to keep Mexicans out. I did enjoy the question about his disrespect for women. 

I'll watch once 'The Donald' is removed from the pack. 

kimmiinthemitten

I watched this morning.  Yes, I'm that big of a political junkie that despite being a super liberal, I DVRed the debate LOL.

Trump made the whole thing entertaining.  I still think he's a Beard for the Clinton campaign.  He's also, by his own admission, everything that is wrong with politics today.  He has admitted to buying political favors, where was the Citizens United follow up question?!?

Kasich surprised me and I'd call him (and Carly from the C Team debate) the stand outs.  

Rubio disappointed me.  I thought he would be the kid who came up and surprised everyone.  As did Bush, both were relatively lack luster.

Christie, whom I despise, is the candidate who loses because of TV.  He's a comfortable, natural debater, but ever since the advent of TV America has never elected a large President.

Rand Paul is scrambling for attention and headlines.  He came out and announced too early and now he's losing headlines to Trump, which pisses him off.  And he's not a libertarian.  His whole fake small government schtick makes me want to scream.  He supports a flat tax, he supports military spending, he opposes abortion, he opposed gay marriage, he opposes a legal path to citizenship even for working immigrants.  He is not a libertarian, he just agrees with them on education, the Patriot Act and healthcare.

But why, oh why, are we talking about tithing during a Presidential debate?!?  

redheadbride15

Last night was date night with my hubby - dinner and a museum. However, if I had been watching the debate then I most certainly would have been doing this:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-official-gop-debate-drinking-game-rules-20150805

emmaaa

I go to sleep too early to watch it. But I am conservative and generally vote Republican so I DVRed it and watched some this morning and watched clips online. I need to finish the rest of the debate tonight or tomorrow morning.

I like Rubio. I thought he had good composure and made some very good statements and points. I was disappointed by Cruz and Bush. As front-runners, they should have stood out more and had more to say.

I like Paul but I don't consider him Presidential and I don't see him winning.

As much as I hate that Donald Trump has made a circus of this process, I don't think as many people would have watched the debate if he weren't in it. I would never vote for him because he doesn't have any substance to what he says. I honestly think he is just here as a distraction and for our amusement. The reason he keeps getting questions that try to catch him in a gotcha moment is because everyone is just waiting for him to slip up and be "un-electable." I was not surprised when he basically said if he isn't the Republican nominee that he would run third party, even if it is a selfish move.

And we all know Fox News is biased but let's not pretend other national news outlets aren't either.

kimmiinthemitten

emmaaa said:

And we all know Fox News is biased but let's not pretend other national news outlets aren't either.

The debate I want to see is when Fox hosts the Democratic debate and MSNBC hosts the GOP's.  Now that is a debate.  The current format is "here is a volleyball, please respond with your canned, prepared answer since everyone saw this question a mile away."

emmaaa

kimmiandkoley said:

emmaaa said:

And we all know Fox News is biased but let's not pretend other national news outlets aren't either.

The debate I want to see is when Fox hosts the Democratic debate and MSNBC hosts the GOP's.  Now that is a debate.  The current format is "here is a volleyball, please respond with your canned, prepared answer since everyone saw this question a mile away."

Now, that would be interesting. I'd watch it.

STARMOON44

kimmiandkoley said:

emmaaa said:

And we all know Fox News is biased but let's not pretend other national news outlets aren't either.

The debate I want to see is when Fox hosts the Democratic debate and MSNBC hosts the GOP's.  Now that is a debate.  The current format is "here is a volleyball, please respond with your canned, prepared answer since everyone saw this question a mile away."


I completely disagree. I think MSNBC would have been under considerable pressure to be respectful of the candidates and the debate would have been much less interesting. I'm not usually a big Fox fan, but I thought their anchors did a fantastic job last night asking hard questions that I didn't see coming, and it didn't seem like the candidates did either.

kimmiinthemitten

@Starmoon44, I respectfully disagree.  They gave each candidate a platform to address their weak points without much counter argument.  Which is fine, but don't call it a debate then.  Trump is the only one they went after and that's because they want him out.

Carson - lack of foreign policy experience

Rubio - campaigning against Bush

Bush - disagreements with his party on immigration

Christie - New Jersey's economic climate

Kasich - expanding Medicare as part of ACA

Cruz - his promise to take down ISIL in 90 days

Walker - lackluster job growth
Paul - flip flop on Israel

Huckabee - social security

KatWAG

Carly Fiorina's resting bitch face was amazing.

ohmrs2014

KatWAG said:

Carly Fiorina's resting bitch face was amazing.

Apparently she won the earlier debate, which I'm upset I missed.

kimmiinthemitten

ohmrs2014 said:

KatWAG said:

Carly Fiorina's resting bitch face was amazing.

Apparently she won the earlier debate, which I'm upset I missed.

I'd agree, and I only saw the last hour.  I think that forum asked much more difficult and challenging questions.  I was disappointed when I saw she didn't make the top 10.

julieanne912

I'm a democrat so I don't have a horse (or a donkey? haha) in this race, but I watched it.  I wanted to punch Trump through the TV.

But really though, if the GOP has ANY shot at winning this, they need someone like Rubio in there.  No more old white guys.  Cruz was ridiculous, I really dislike that guy.

Also aside from the religious and abortion stuff, I like Carson.  Can't see him as president at all though.  Maybe some other office though.

Jen4948

A couple of hours of my life I'll never get back.

banana468

We got rid of cable so no debate for us but I am SO sick of people I know and really like saying that they think Trump is going to do it and that he has their vote.   I want to take those people I love and turn them upside down and shake them by the ankles.   

As a conservative myself, I think Republicans aren't getting it.   Getting a good nominee is like figuring out what meal to feed my young child.   Sure I can put out everything that I think is good and tell her that it's the best meal for her - but I deal in reality.   So I need to feed her what I know she'll eat.

It's the same here.   There isn't a hope or a prayer of getting elected if you don't put out someone that you know Democrats will vote for too.   Why aren't they seeing that??!!

kimmiinthemitten

banana468 said:

We got rid of cable so no debate for us but I am SO sick of people I know and really like saying that they think Trump is going to do it and that he has their vote.   I want to take those people I love and turn them upside down and shake them by the ankles.   

As a conservative myself, I think Republicans aren't getting it.   Getting a good nominee is like figuring out what meal to feed my young child.   Sure I can put out everything that I think is good and tell her that it's the best meal for her - but I deal in reality.   So I need to feed her what I know she'll eat.

It's the same here.   There isn't a hope or a prayer of getting elected if you don't put out someone that you know Democrats will vote for too.   Why aren't they seeing that??!!

You're exactly right!  What killed McCain and Romney in the last two cycles was that the GOP took two popular, successful moderates and forced them to pretend to be neo cons.  They promised to win the election on overturning Obamacare and then silenced the man who successfully reformed insurance in his state.  That's like pledging to win on the military and not letting a General speak on his successes during combat!

madamerwin

redheadbride15 said:

Last night was date night with my hubby - dinner and a museum. However, if I had been watching the debate then I most certainly would have been doing this:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-official-gop-debate-drinking-game-rules-20150805

We played, it was fun. Neither of us won though, because we started playing half way through. But we were able to cross off about half of the squares. Definitely made it a little more interesting.

ohmrs2014

As a fellow conservative, I think the Republican party needs to stop trying to mix Church and state and leave their religious beliefs out of government.

Isn't that the main reason why we try to interfere in the Middle East, because the regimes over there try to push their religious agendas on everyone else and persecute those who don't believe in what they do?

I'm sorry, but Religion has no place in politics.

ETA:  I am fully aware that I might take a hit on saying this.

julieanne912

ohmrs2014 said:

As a fellow conservative, I think the Republican party needs to stop trying to mix Church and state and leave their religious beliefs out of government.

Isn't that the main reason why we try to interfere in the Middle East, because the regimes over there try to push their religious agendas on everyone else and persecute those who don't believe in what they do?

I'm sorry, but Religion has no place in politics.

ETA:  I am fully aware that I might take a hit on saying this.

Unfortunately the whole religion thing is a major portion of the GOPs stance... if they quit bringing religion into everything, they'd lose the majority of their followers.