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Moving Without a Job Lined Up? (long-ish)
I've been considering moving to my favorite city (other than Chicago) for some time now. The city I have an eye on has only 3% unemployment, and I've been watching the jobs on Indeed.com. I find about 25-30 jobs I'm qualified for every day.
Unfortunately, many of them say "local candidates only", and those that don't... well... it would be very expensive to keep flying out for interviews (plus I don't want to keep asking for personal days). Once it becomes time to start applying for jobs, I suppose I could ask if they'd be willing to do a phone or Skype interview. I don't plan to move until next spring/summer, as my lease won't be up until July.
I have about 7-9 months' worth of "expense money" saved up, meaning I could be unemployed for that long before the money ran out, not that I plan to be, of course.
Do you think it's stupid to move to this new city and look for a job? The idea TERRIFIES me, because a job = safety net. On the other hand, I do have enough money to survive for several months, and I sincerely doubt it will take me that long to find a job, considering my resume and experience (office work and call centers). Even during the worst recession periods, I've been able to find jobs within just a few weeks. The longest I've ever been unemployed is six weeks, and that was because I lived in a town that had very few jobs that didn't involve nursing or trucking.
I keep waffling on this. It's been my dream to move to that city since 2007, the first time I vacationed there. I have a few friends in the area, including my best friend, which will make the transition much more comfortable, and one friend offered to let me crash for the first few weeks to help me save money. He's confident I'll be able to find a job within that first month. If not, I can always switch to a monthly Airbnb (much cheaper than a weekly/monthly hotel rate).
Have any of you done anything like this?
Advice, please.
Thanks.
Unfortunately, many of them say "local candidates only", and those that don't... well... it would be very expensive to keep flying out for interviews (plus I don't want to keep asking for personal days). Once it becomes time to start applying for jobs, I suppose I could ask if they'd be willing to do a phone or Skype interview. I don't plan to move until next spring/summer, as my lease won't be up until July.
I have about 7-9 months' worth of "expense money" saved up, meaning I could be unemployed for that long before the money ran out, not that I plan to be, of course.
Do you think it's stupid to move to this new city and look for a job? The idea TERRIFIES me, because a job = safety net. On the other hand, I do have enough money to survive for several months, and I sincerely doubt it will take me that long to find a job, considering my resume and experience (office work and call centers). Even during the worst recession periods, I've been able to find jobs within just a few weeks. The longest I've ever been unemployed is six weeks, and that was because I lived in a town that had very few jobs that didn't involve nursing or trucking.
I keep waffling on this. It's been my dream to move to that city since 2007, the first time I vacationed there. I have a few friends in the area, including my best friend, which will make the transition much more comfortable, and one friend offered to let me crash for the first few weeks to help me save money. He's confident I'll be able to find a job within that first month. If not, I can always switch to a monthly Airbnb (much cheaper than a weekly/monthly hotel rate).
Have any of you done anything like this?
Advice, please.
Thanks. This discussion has been closed.
Re: Moving Without a Job Lined Up? (long-ish)
I sometimes think that by getting married and living where I do, I've limited myself in some ways. Both DH and I have great jobs, and the thought of up and moving somewhere is hard. I'd lose a great salary, good job and pension, which is hard to do. Sometimes I wish we had more flexibility to just up and leave.
Plus, there are always temp jobs. Stuff like that would prevent me from dipping into savings while looking for something permanent. The rub is that it's hard to interview when you're working 8-5 at a temp job, as you often can't take personal days or call in during the first X number of days.
Like pp said, just having the ability to be able to do that is rare and you should take advantage of it! You have a promising job market and a support network already in place. Do it up.
I think it depends on why you are wanting to move and will you potentially regret it if it takes longer to get on your feet than you think. Having friends in the area would help, not only with potential job connections but having that sort of safety net although I'd be afraid of friendships being affected if I crashed at someone's place too long. Sometimes I wish I'd done something like that but I know now I never could. Some people do it and flourish. Here are some "devil's advocate" questions/thoughts I have:
Would you be able to find a place to rent w/o a steady job? If not, would the long term air bnb thing be sustainable?
are those 7-9 months of expenses your only safety net? What happens if you had a big car or health issue, would you still have money for those or would it come out of your expense money?
But my gut reaction to your post? Go for it!
Even though NY is amazing, I knew I wanted to move.. it became all I could think about. I loved my job there too but my desire to move eventually pushed me to quit when the time was right. Moving, even though I didn't have a job, was a very good decision for me at that time. I would say for you to go ahead and do it -- take your friend up on their offer to crash at their place for however long.
Good luck!
Best thing choice I ever made. Like you, I had a expenses for 6-8 months saved. I was able to find a job within a week. I ended up hating that job, but it paid the bills. I actually quit that job after 12 months and worked 3 part-time jobs instead. 3 months later I found my dream job and I never looked back. I still kept the part-time jobs for a while because I like them and the extra money.
Yes it is scary, but I knew I was a good worker and could always work in retail or restaurants (which I ended up doing). I also knew if I didn't like it I could always just move back.
Like a PP said, I'd never do it myself, but I admire people who do!
They have also been burned by non-locals not showing up because they get scared to actually move. Or the non-local gets home sick or doesn't actually like the area and moves within a few months.
In theory, a local has housing and knows the deal about living and working in the area.
Trust me, living in a remote place like the islands or the mountains is not for everyone. It's seems all great when you visit, but living in those places is not as easy as you would think.
Also, we had the concern about what if the person didn't work out? I'd hate to have someone pick up and move across country and then find out that they really aren't a good fit for our company or able to do the job we had expected.
Now, for the originally question, it sounds like you are prepared with backup funds, so go for it. I would probably start applying for jobs a month or two before you plan to move, because you may find something and not have to worry about moving without a job lined up.
AFAIK when jobs request local candidates only they don't want to pay your expenses for moving. We will sometimes move candidates at our own expense, but usually that phrase means that you're responsible for any costs incurred IF you were to move for that job.
But I think you should go for it! One of the girls in my office is doing this now. She got her visa for England and is moving there after xmas and will be crashing with friends until she gets a job. She really wanted to have a job in place before committing to an apartment.
This sounds like something you have always wanted to do and that you also want a new place to start over. 7-9 months of expenses sound like a good starting point. But is the cost of living in your new area similar or better than Chicago?
I lurk over on the Money Matters board on GBCN on Proboards. They have lots of helpful hints and will go over a budget for you. Since you would be staying in Chicago until at least July, go over there and present your current budget to them and tell them how you plan to live for x amount of months with no job. They should be able to tell you how to save further now, if necessary, to save up even more money for expenses over a longer period than 9 months.
I'm dealing with the same thing. Sixteen years ago I moved from Houston to NYC for exactly this reason. Last year I moved from NYC back to Houston for financial reasons, but I badly want to move back to NYC. In order for me to live there, I need a job, and I sent out applications when I was there two weeks ago. One of them actually called me back.
I'd go for it.
I say go for it. You have a financial cushion, and if you really want to live in this new city, you shouldn't let the fear of having to find a job stop you. Otherwise, you'll be stuck somewhere you don't want to be forever!
I'm also on "go for it" team. I moved from So. CA to New Orleans shortly after I graduated from college, with no job lined up. I wanted to experience a different part of the country and figured, "Hey, why not now. I'm in a new chapter in my life and have to find a job anyway." One of the best decisions I have made.
I didn't even have that much money saved, lol. Though the job market/economy across the country was pretty decent at the time. I was also young and single. No bills, other than my new rent, utilities and food.
I wouldn't do that again at this stage in my life without having to endure huge amounts of saving and planning. BTW, still here in NOLA over 15 years later. Albeit with some caveats, I am glad to have made it my home.
Thanks for all the feedback. I asked the same question on Yelp, and most people there provided lots of arguments against. Most of you are telling me to go for it. Haha.
I think what I'll do is apply my pants off and see how many places are willing to do phone/Skype interviews. I will make it abundantly clear that I plan to pay for my relocation and have friends in the area and, yes, this is a permanent move. I'm not sure if they'll trust that I won't chicken out and get homesick. Perhaps I'll describe, in detail, how much I hate Midwest winters (kidding).
Maybe I'll luck out and get something, and then this will all be moot.
Good luck! I've done a few cross country moves myself, and I think it's exciting, even if it is a bit scary.
100% go for it, I'd do it in a heartbeat and I don't consider myself adventurous at all. There's something to be said for willing your life to take the form you want it to.
I used to move around all the time, when I was young and broke and didn't have credit cards for emergencies. I don't know why I feel so different this time. I think it's because I worked so hard to clean up my credit and get myself on solid footing. I don't want that to go away because of a (potentially) stupid decision. I just bought a new car; I don't want it to be repossessed, especially if I run out of money and have to live in it.
You probably feel differently now because you have more experience in the world and are more aware of the consequences, if something were to go wrong. I, too, was adventurous and impulsive. I always joke that if I hadn't traveled like I did when I was younger, I'd be retired right now (I'm only 34.)
I once had my BFF call me and tell me her travel companion to Belguim can't make it now, did I want to come? I said sure! I had less than 2 weeks notice. Would I do that now? No! I have a job and need to give more notice for vacations and even need to track how I use the vacation days I'm given. I also have a house, dog, and other financial responsibilities to take care of.
But you have a financial plan and you even have a support system in Seattle. I think you are working through this potential move cautiously, but smartly.
What I did do was list my best friend's address on my resume (she was already living in NYC at the time). Which immediately got me calls vs. zero responses before then.
I said vaguely that I was in the process of transitioning, so I had 2 apartments at the time (1 here and 1 in Florida), which is why I needed a few days before I could come for the interview.
I was hired for that job and told them I needed to give notice at the other job, so I had 3 weeks to actually move and get settled. Probably not THE MOST HONEST way to do it, but it worked for me.