I'm OK

OurWildKingdom

Just letting all of you know I'm all right. I freaked out a bit yesterday, and I'm still scared about the next four-plus years. But I'm committed to fighting like hell for me and mine, and if necessary, leaving the country.

mrsconn23

I'm glad you showed up today!!  Take care.   We're here for you. 

CharmedPam

OWK, I was just thinking about you! I noticed your last message was about you admitting yourself to the hospital so I was really hoping you'd touch base today.  So glad you're doing OK.  

MissKittyDanger

Glad to hear you're okay!

kimmiinthemitten

Glad you're okay.  Don't leave.  Surround yourself with allies.  We all have your back, side and front, virtually.

thefanciestbeckler

Been worried about you. So glad to hear you're ok. I agree with Kimmi- we are all on your side

justsie

Was thinking about you yesterday after work, glad to hear the message. I am also glad that it sounds like you have a good support system surrounding you for when times are tough. 

DrillSergeantCat

I'm glad you're okay. I'm sorry you're hurting. 

SaintPaulGal

I'm so glad you are doing okay.  I'm right there with you--yesterday was awful, and I am still very sad and scared.  But I'm not giving up.  We have midterm elections in two years.  We will make it, and we will make it COUNT.

Hugs.

VarunaTT

{{{{{hugs}}}}}

cowgirl8238

So glad you are back and doing okay today.  Try to stay positive!

short+sassy

I was worried also when I didn't see you post again.  Thanks for reaching out to us today.  It was an upsetting and shocking day for many.

sparklepants41

I'm glad you are okay!!!

ei34

Glad you're okay..and here

6fsn

I'm very glad to hear this. 

CMGragain

God Bless America!  Remember, when Mr. Trump becomes president, he will not have the power to make new laws.  He will not have the power to change decisions of the Supreme Court.  Any decisions that have already been given by the Supreme Court, still stand, even when a new justice takes their seat.  Mr. Trump cannot rewrite the Constitution of the United States of America, either.

This is not Czarist Russia.  Our president's powers have many limits under the Constitution.

Mr. Trump knows full well, despite his rhetoric, that he was elected by a very narrow margin, and that he lost the popular vote.  He will be under scrutiny for the next four years.  Washington is a tough game, and they don't welcome newbies.

charlotte989875

CMGragain said:

God Bless America!  Remember, when Mr. Trump becomes president, he will not have the power to make new laws.  He will not have the power to change decisions of the Supreme Court.  Any decisions that have already been given by the Supreme Court, still stand, even when a new justice takes their seat.  Mr. Trump cannot rewrite the Constitution of the United States of America, either.

This is not Czarist Russia.  Our president's powers have many limits under the Constitution.

Mr. Trump knows full well, despite his rhetoric, that he was elected by a very narrow margin, and that he lost the popular vote.  He will be under scrutiny for the next four years.  Washington is a tough game, and they don't welcome newbies.

I'm sorry, but this is the second time that you've posted this. Essentially talking down and dismissing the very real concerns many people have. 

As to the bolded, this isn't entirely true. He can repeal any executive order on his first day in office. Which means he can repeal DACA, which allows minor children of undocumented workers to delay or suspend deportation. He can repeal FMLA leave protection for same-sex couples. He can withdraw the USA from climate change agreements. He can halt the expansion of Medicaid. Stop efforts to enroll people in Obamacare. All of these were done by executive order and can be repealed by a new executive order, without any Congressional or Court opinion. 

He can also walk back the increased expanded Title IX requirements, which are investigating college campuses on their mishandling of sexual assault reports. 

The second bolded is correct. But also he will get to appoint a new Supreme Court Justice immediately. And the Court can overturn their own decisions. It doesn't happen frequently, but it is also not a rare occurrence. So all the rights that  were given to people, can be reversed or overturned by the Court as well. 

So, please don't come here spouting the crap that this isn't a potentially dangerous situation for many Americans, particularly vulnerable and underrepresented groups; of which many posters here identify with. 

ShesSoCold

CMGragain said:

God Bless America!  Remember, when Mr. Trump becomes president, he will not have the power to make new laws.  He will not have the power to change decisions of the Supreme Court.  Any decisions that have already been given by the Supreme Court, still stand, even when a new justice takes their seat.  Mr. Trump cannot rewrite the Constitution of the United States of America, either.

This is not Czarist Russia.  Our president's powers have many limits under the Constitution.

Mr. Trump knows full well, despite his rhetoric, that he was elected by a very narrow margin, and that he lost the popular vote.  He will be under scrutiny for the next four years.  Washington is a tough game, and they don't welcome newbies.

You literally just responded with "God Bless America" to a very fragile person who was nearly broken due to this election? An election that while it may not change laws for her, it has solidified and made very apparent and public the hate the majority of Americans appear to have in their hearts for her? For no reason other than the fact that she is who she is. That is disgusting. I'd like to say that you've stooped to a new low in insensitivity, but unfortunately that isn't the case.

OWK, I am happy to see that you are taking care of yourself. Know that for every CMGr there is, there's also an ally. There are also people willing and eager to love you, to help you, to listen to you and to make sure you are safe.

CMGragain

Sorry, but this is how our country works.  I am old enough to remember many other elections that did not go the way some of my friends wishes.  Nixon?  Johnson?  Bush, II?  Our country survived, and we should be proud of it.
Am I pleased that Mr. Trump won the election?  No, I am horrified, but I have faith in our country and our system of government.  The people who should be really worried are the people who received benefit from Obama care.
I am sorry if you do not agree with me, but this is an open forum.

As for OWK, she knows very well that I am her internet friend, and that I have always supported her. and I care about her.   Shame on  anyone who thinks otherwise.

downtondiva

It may not feel like it right now, OWK, but there are A LOT of people in this country who are on your side. We want you here, we want you safe, and we want you happy. Stay well and remember that you have friends here.

charlotte989875

Don't lecture me, or anyone else on"how this country works". I have a doctorate in political science and teach Constitutional Law (among other things), and I have students afraid for their ways of life on campus. A student of color was assaulted on campus this morning while her attackers shouted racial slurs and Trump slogans at her. This isn't people being disappointed an election "didn't go their way" they're afraid of the things our President elect has openly called for including discriminating against religious groups, assaulting women, and restricting political rights and civil liberties. 

Yes people who who benefit from the Affordable Care Act should be concerned, but so are many, many more Americas who know all to well the rascism, sexism, homophobia, bigotry and xenophobia that exists in our country. 

This is an open forum and yes you can say what you please. But I will not stand by when people make statements that are factually incorrect and potentially hurtful to other members of this community. 

CMGragain

I am so glad you commented, @charlotte98975.  You are very qualified to help people understand that Trump's election is not the end of the world, and that racism, sexism, xenophobia (which is not unique to the USA), and bigotry need not be encouraged.
It worries me that 18 year old students are protesting the results of the election.  I am sorry, but he won.  When I was in college, students were protesting the War in Vietnam, not a presidential election.  I would rather see these same people demonstrating FOR gay rights, FOR equal rights for LGBTQ, than against a candidate who has been legally elected (or who will be, once the electoral college has met).   We need to move on in a positive effort so that it is clear that there is no going back.
I hope I have made myself clear.  You obviously have more knowledge about the Constitution than I do.  So bring it on!  The Constitution is what makes us the country that we are.
I have issues, myself that I worry about.  I remember when abortion was illegal, and I do not want those days to return!  I remember segregation.  I didn't like it then, and I don't want it back in any form of discrimination.  My grandfather was a legal immigrant, and I want others to have the opportunity that he had.  I also live in a part of the country that relies heavily on immigrant labor.  We need it!
You teach Constitutional Law?  Wonderful!  I am in awe!  I have so much respect for our Constitution and its protections.  Keep on teaching it...and I still say "God Bless America", even if some people don't like it.

kimmiinthemitten

@cmgragain do you really think protesting his election and protesting to support ideals he doesn't share are exclusive. People are protesting because they value LGBT lives and they want the president elect to know he may have won but we won't be ignored. 

But to hijack a thread that began because a member was checking in to verify her safety, a person many of us were concerned with is an all time low. She doesn't need to be patronized and told not to worry. She needs to know she has allies, people who care about her well being, and people who understand her fear. 

Perhaps less focus on the constitution and more on psychology could be beneficial. 

CMGragain

I am also very concerned about OWK.  I just don't think all the negativity is necessarily the right approach.
PS.  Just talked to my son, who works for a defense department contractor in the DC area.  He is nervous about the future of his job.  There are lots of people worried out there.  I advised him to not panic, and wait and see.

ShesSoCold

CMGr, my issue was not that you said "God bless America". It was that this was the first thing you said to OWK who had been so upset by the results of this election that she felt she needed hospitalization. 

This is equilivent to me responding with "welp, everyone dies. How wonderful that the funeral home will get some business." When you post about your cancer, if not worse. Whether or not you agree, this is devastating for OWK and many people like her. Minimizing her feelings isn't helpful. 

justsie

CMG I can probably stay with 100% certainty that on this thread no one was concerned about your sons job. This thread was started for a specific purpose, for one member to check in and let others know they are alright. If you feel the need to continue to talk over their feelings and about your son and your life and your experiences might I suggest you start your own thread with that topic? 

Jen4948

@CMGragain, whether or not you think the negativity is helpful right now, and your son's situation, and whatever your opinion of America right now, is beside the point of this thread. @OurWildKingdom may be on the verge of losing her civil rights, if not worse, as the result of this election. She wanted us to know that she's okay.

@OurWildKingdom, I've been thinking about you ever since the final results came in. I'm glad you're okay and hope you continue to be okay. We have your back.

CMGragain

I seriously doubt that anyone will lose Constitutional Rights because Trump was elected president.  I believe this is what the Supreme Court protects.

SaintPaulGal

CMGragain said:

I seriously doubt that anyone will lose Constitutional Rights because Trump was elected president.  I believe this is what the Supreme Court protects.

Remind me who it is that nominates justices to the Supreme Court?

Jen4948

SaintPaulGal said:

CMGragain said:

I seriously doubt that anyone will lose Constitutional Rights because Trump was elected president.  I believe this is what the Supreme Court protects.

Remind me who it is that nominates justices to the Supreme Court?

And who controls the house of Congress that confirms them?

ShesSoCold

CMGragain said:

I seriously doubt that anyone will lose Constitutional Rights because Trump was elected president.  I believe this is what the Supreme Court protects.

Oh. Well why didn't you say that before? Move along everyone, some random rich white straight woman doubts you'll be affected and everything is fine. Problem solved.