1st Monday of quarantine

ILoveBeachMusic

mrsconn23 said:

ILoveBeachMusic said:

mrsconn23 said:

ILoveBeachMusic said:

I think it is interesting you all are saying boomers aren't taking it seriously.From  what I have seen, it is the young people (teens - 30ish) that aren't taking it seriously. All the shots I've seen of bars and parties look like that age group.

I thought it was COMPLETELY irresponsible of Howl at the Moon for promoting the bar crawl for St. Pat's day this weekend.  I'm supportive of a ban on bars and restaurants. 

Also mom has texted us and canceled ALL visitors, including us, for now.  I don't blame her at all.  My dad thinks she's overreacting, but I think she's being smart.  

Yes I think your Mom is doing the right thing too. Yes it is totally irresponsible for bars to promote large groups. Did you see that the governor has just called for bars and restaurants to close?

FINALLY.  IL, OH, and MI called it before us.  I mean, come on. 

He also just closed gyms. Glad he did that because I don't think they would do that voluntarily.

CharmedPam

Do you think I’ll get a membership freeze at mine?  Or some money back?  Even though I haven’t gone to mine since December... when I joined it?

actually I got an email from my gym.  Classes are cancelled but the facility is still open (uh no... i get the social distancing thing - but I’m not using any machine anyone’s sweating on)

mrsconn23

banana468

My FIL is griping that the closings should be all or nothing.   That it "isn't making sense" to close the movie theaters and restaurants when liquor stores and grocery/warehouse clubs are open and when DH's employer is open. 

My answers
-They aren't the same.   A movie theater isn't needed for sustenance.   And frankly you could make that argument for a liquor store although most of the time you don't see 50 people in there at once.  
-And the fact that my husband's employer is open and has offered ZERO options to their employees who work in the office to work from home other than a small handful of select who can is UNCONSCIONABLE.
-He also tried to argue that it was time to cut off free and reduced meals to kids.  

I am so pissed at him and DH knows.   

short+sassy

CharmedPam said:

Do you think I’ll get a membership freeze at mine?  Or some money back?  Even though I haven’t gone to mine since December... when I joined it?

actually I got an email from my gym.  Classes are cancelled but the facility is still open (uh no... i get the social distancing thing - but I’m not using any machine anyone’s sweating on)

Doesn't hurt to ask!  Especially since classes are canceled, which is part of what your membership pays for.

But I do see a difference between gyms being forced to close (they should stop fees) vs. members just choosing not to go.  Even if it is for good reason.

Although a totally different situation, I remember a Cox cable commercial that was being aired a few months after Hurricane Katrina.

It was basically bragging that, because of the difficult times people were suffering, they had not charged customers in the affected areas for the month of September.

Oh really, Cox?  Are you talking about the time period and areas where cable service was down and you COULDN'T provide people with the service they were paying you for?  Right.  How noble of you//s.

"Here's a cookie" for at least not being your usual bait-and-switch, con artist selves and making your customers fight you to have fees waived for services you weren't providing.

short+sassy

banana468 said:

My FIL is griping that the closings should be all or nothing.   That it "isn't making sense" to close the movie theaters and restaurants when liquor stores and grocery/warehouse clubs are open and when DH's employer is open. 

My answers
-They aren't the same.   A movie theater isn't needed for sustenance.   And frankly you could make that argument for a liquor store although most of the time you don't see 50 people in there at once.  
-And the fact that my husband's employer is open and has offered ZERO options to their employees who work in the office to work from home other than a small handful of select who can is UNCONSCIONABLE.
-He also tried to argue that it was time to cut off free and reduced meals to kids.  

I am so pissed at him and DH knows.   

I'm sorry to be mean about your FIL, though this is more a general statement.

But of all...OF ALL...the social programs that exist.  Can't we just all...all of us, people of all political affiliations...just agree that CHILDREN.SHOULD.HAVE.FOOD.

banana468

short+sassy said:

banana468 said:

My FIL is griping that the closings should be all or nothing.   That it "isn't making sense" to close the movie theaters and restaurants when liquor stores and grocery/warehouse clubs are open and when DH's employer is open. 

My answers
-They aren't the same.   A movie theater isn't needed for sustenance.   And frankly you could make that argument for a liquor store although most of the time you don't see 50 people in there at once.  
-And the fact that my husband's employer is open and has offered ZERO options to their employees who work in the office to work from home other than a small handful of select who can is UNCONSCIONABLE.
-He also tried to argue that it was time to cut off free and reduced meals to kids.  

I am so pissed at him and DH knows.   

I'm sorry to be mean about your FIL, though this is more a general statement.

But of all...OF ALL...the social programs that exist.  Can't we just all...all of us, people of all political affiliations...just agree that CHILDREN.SHOULD.HAVE.FOOD.

Right!?!

Even IF their parents are somehow milking the system and actually do not have the financial need for this is the answer on THREE DAYS NOTICE to stop feeding the kids?  YOU DO NOT ASK THE CHILD TO PAY FOR WHAT ITS PARENTS ARE DOING. 

Our doorbell has a sound/video recorder so I told DH to listen to our conversation.   I love his dad but have ZERO fucks to give if FIL is mad at me.   

mrsconn23

banana468 said:

short+sassy said:

banana468 said:

My FIL is griping that the closings should be all or nothing.   That it "isn't making sense" to close the movie theaters and restaurants when liquor stores and grocery/warehouse clubs are open and when DH's employer is open. 

My answers
-They aren't the same.   A movie theater isn't needed for sustenance.   And frankly you could make that argument for a liquor store although most of the time you don't see 50 people in there at once.  
-And the fact that my husband's employer is open and has offered ZERO options to their employees who work in the office to work from home other than a small handful of select who can is UNCONSCIONABLE.
-He also tried to argue that it was time to cut off free and reduced meals to kids.  

I am so pissed at him and DH knows.   

I'm sorry to be mean about your FIL, though this is more a general statement.

But of all...OF ALL...the social programs that exist.  Can't we just all...all of us, people of all political affiliations...just agree that CHILDREN.SHOULD.HAVE.FOOD.

Right!?!

Even IF their parents are somehow milking the system and actually do not have the financial need for this is the answer on THREE DAYS NOTICE to stop feeding the kids?  YOU DO NOT ASK THE CHILD TO PAY FOR WHAT ITS PARENTS ARE DOING. 

Our doorbell has a sound/video recorder so I told DH to listen to our conversation.   I love his dad but have ZERO fucks to give if FIL is mad at me.   

I am positive that people who don't *need* food are showing up to our school system's food pick-ups today.  That's on those people's conscience/souls/etc.  I only hope that they have enough to pass out to everyone who shows up. 

It wasn't even a conversation for DH and I consider going to get handed out food, but we also had the means to stock-up (and things we *want* not need...because DefConn did not need honey buns and I did not need Haribos...or the ungodly amount of money we've spent on alcohol).  But I know for a fact there are lots of people in our town that this is having a huge effect on, a single-mom, co-worker being one of them.  

I keep having the conversation with DefConn that this is something that hasn't even happened in my grandpa's lifetime, so watching all this go down is a completely foreign experience.  I do not understand, even if it turns out to be 'nothing' (and it's not, but I'm willing to do the thought exercise to humor people), that people are shitting on communities coming together quickly to support each other.  Isn't that the bitch by so many of an older generation that there is no community support, neighbors helping neighbors, 'where everybody knows your name', etc? 

Speaking of all this being 'new'...I finally identified to DH the other night that while this is totally different, my anxiety about this feels comparative to how I felt after 9/11.  We didn't know each other then, so he was dumbfounded at my need to be 'on top' of the news as it flows out.  I had the same desire for knowledge/understanding after 9/11.  

short+sassy

banana468 said:

short+sassy said:

banana468 said:

My FIL is griping that the closings should be all or nothing.   That it "isn't making sense" to close the movie theaters and restaurants when liquor stores and grocery/warehouse clubs are open and when DH's employer is open. 

My answers
-They aren't the same.   A movie theater isn't needed for sustenance.   And frankly you could make that argument for a liquor store although most of the time you don't see 50 people in there at once.  
-And the fact that my husband's employer is open and has offered ZERO options to their employees who work in the office to work from home other than a small handful of select who can is UNCONSCIONABLE.
-He also tried to argue that it was time to cut off free and reduced meals to kids.  

I am so pissed at him and DH knows.   

I'm sorry to be mean about your FIL, though this is more a general statement.

But of all...OF ALL...the social programs that exist.  Can't we just all...all of us, people of all political affiliations...just agree that CHILDREN.SHOULD.HAVE.FOOD.

Right!?!

Even IF their parents are somehow milking the system and actually do not have the financial need for this is the answer on THREE DAYS NOTICE to stop feeding the kids?  YOU DO NOT ASK THE CHILD TO PAY FOR WHAT ITS PARENTS ARE DOING. 

Our doorbell has a sound/video recorder so I told DH to listen to our conversation.   I love his dad but have ZERO fucks to give if FIL is mad at me.   

I know I'm just preaching to the choir here, lol.  But I'm guessing that school breakfast/lunch programs are only the tiniest, tiniest smidgen of expense for the government.

I'm sure there are abuses of the system.  Because there always are.  And, generally speaking, that is something I care about because it does take away from the people who really need it.

But, what?  5%?  10%?  Maybe even 50% (though I doubt it) of families are "scammers"?  And they fraudulently get 100 bucks/month of free food for their kid.  I really don't care and that's the stupidest reason ever to punish all children in these programs.  And even the "supposed scammers" are hardly going to be wealthy people, smh.

While we blithely way outspend every other country in the world on our military.  JIC.  How about we only buy 95 fancy fighter jets this year instead of 100?  And that will pay for the nationwide school lunch programs.  I know, I know it's not that simple and it's all different "pies".  Blah, blah.  But still.

Edited to add @mrsconn23, that's a good point for the here and now.  The free food being given out should only be going to kids already in those programs.  For no other reason than to make sure there is enough for those kids. 

short+sassy

mrsconn23 said:

I am positive that people who don't *need* food are showing up to our school system's food pick-ups today.  That's on those people's conscience/souls/etc.  I only hope that they have enough to pass out to everyone who shows up. 

It wasn't even a conversation for DH and I consider going to get handed out food, but we also had the means to stock-up (and things we *want* not need...because DefConn did not need honey buns and I did not need Haribos...or the ungodly amount of money we've spent on alcohol).  But I know for a fact there are lots of people in our town that this is having a huge effect on, a single-mom, co-worker being one of them.  

I keep having the conversation with DefConn that this is something that hasn't even happened in my grandpa's lifetime, so watching all this go down is a completely foreign experience.  I do not understand, even if it turns out to be 'nothing' (and it's not, but I'm willing to do the thought exercise to humor people), that people are shitting on communities coming together quickly to support each other.  Isn't that the bitch by so many of an older generation that there is no community support, neighbors helping neighbors, 'where everybody knows your name', etc? 

Speaking of all this being 'new'...I finally identified to DH the other night that while this is totally different, my anxiety about this feels comparative to how I felt after 9/11.  We didn't know each other then, so he was dumbfounded at my need to be 'on top' of the news as it flows out.  I had the same desire for knowledge/understanding after 9/11.  

I am lmao at your list!  Because, purchased in my household over the weekend:  Huge bag of Albanese gummy bears, 12-pack of Abita Amber (beer), Monkey bread.

I personally think the Monkey bread looks completely disgusting.  Just way too over the top, sickly sweet.  But my H wanted to try it so, sure.

The gummy bears are also all his.  The Abita Amber is all mine .

ei34

The schools in our area finally announced a two-week closure yesterday.  We're transitioning to e-learning but today and for at least the next week it was homeschooling with mama here.  I think Day 1 went well enough.  It would be nice to be able to buy toilet paper and hand sanitizer by me but I just don't think it'll happen.  There's plenty of food at least...that's the biggest shopping difference between Hurricane Sandy in 2012 and this.  My experience is similar to @ILoveBeachMusic's, the boomers i know are taking it more seriously than my 20-something cousins.  

My kids (going on 6, 5, and 5) have taken closures/cancellations well.  The swimming lessons they live for, my son's Jurassic World tour that he's been looking forward to since September...they've been okay.  They've each separately said things along the lines of "I just hope every one feels better soon".  I'm proud of them.

banana468

mrsconn23 said:

banana468 said:

short+sassy said:

banana468 said:

My FIL is griping that the closings should be all or nothing.   That it "isn't making sense" to close the movie theaters and restaurants when liquor stores and grocery/warehouse clubs are open and when DH's employer is open. 

My answers
-They aren't the same.   A movie theater isn't needed for sustenance.   And frankly you could make that argument for a liquor store although most of the time you don't see 50 people in there at once.  
-And the fact that my husband's employer is open and has offered ZERO options to their employees who work in the office to work from home other than a small handful of select who can is UNCONSCIONABLE.
-He also tried to argue that it was time to cut off free and reduced meals to kids.  

I am so pissed at him and DH knows.   

I'm sorry to be mean about your FIL, though this is more a general statement.

But of all...OF ALL...the social programs that exist.  Can't we just all...all of us, people of all political affiliations...just agree that CHILDREN.SHOULD.HAVE.FOOD.

Right!?!

Even IF their parents are somehow milking the system and actually do not have the financial need for this is the answer on THREE DAYS NOTICE to stop feeding the kids?  YOU DO NOT ASK THE CHILD TO PAY FOR WHAT ITS PARENTS ARE DOING. 

Our doorbell has a sound/video recorder so I told DH to listen to our conversation.   I love his dad but have ZERO fucks to give if FIL is mad at me.   

I am positive that people who don't *need* food are showing up to our school system's food pick-ups today.  That's on those people's conscience/souls/etc.  I only hope that they have enough to pass out to everyone who shows up. 

It wasn't even a conversation for DH and I consider going to get handed out food, but we also had the means to stock-up (and things we *want* not need...because DefConn did not need honey buns and I did not need Haribos...or the ungodly amount of money we've spent on alcohol).  But I know for a fact there are lots of people in our town that this is having a huge effect on, a single-mom, co-worker being one of them.  

I keep having the conversation with DefConn that this is something that hasn't even happened in my grandpa's lifetime, so watching all this go down is a completely foreign experience.  I do not understand, even if it turns out to be 'nothing' (and it's not, but I'm willing to do the thought exercise to humor people), that people are shitting on communities coming together quickly to support each other.  Isn't that the bitch by so many of an older generation that there is no community support, neighbors helping neighbors, 'where everybody knows your name', etc? 

Speaking of all this being 'new'...I finally identified to DH the other night that while this is totally different, my anxiety about this feels comparative to how I felt after 9/11.  We didn't know each other then, so he was dumbfounded at my need to be 'on top' of the news as it flows out.  I had the same desire for knowledge/understanding after 9/11.  

I am sure there could be people who milk that system.   The way I understand it is that the local meals are available at cost or still to those who qualified.   

FIL tried to tell me how much $ he lost in the stock market this weekend.   He also mentioned on Friday that they bought a Bosch dishwasher.   
-Your $ loss is not comparable to those who don't have two nickels to scrape together.
-You saw that this was coming and have no one to blame but yourself that you decided to start an expensive renovation as a pandemic was hitting.  

ILoveBeachMusic

@mrsconn23, H and I were just talking about how this feels like post 9/11. We have to take a break from the news (bingeing Outlander and Criminal Minds). My head feels like it is in a fog, and I just feel down/anxious. 

levioosa

I am so over this. Work is insane. People outside work are insane. This weekend had some super shitty moments. They tried to call me into work at one point. Then my grandma fell and shattered her ankle. Yesterday I went to see her and assess how bad it is while she waits for her doctor’s appointment today. I’m worried. I don’t want her to go into a rehab facility right now. 

mrsconn23

Trump is now saying gatherings of 10 or more should no longer occur until further notice/the situation declines.  He's not wrong.  

I do wonder what Italian media government was advising at this point in their crisis.  I hope the aggressive and quick message changes are shocking people into changed behavior.  I don't love the idea of curfews, but I don't trust the entitled assholes out there who won't listen to ANYTHING but fines or arrest. 

VarunaTT

There's a weird Republican flex going on in this fucking state, and this entire "Show Me" attitude is going to get us all killed because that's how you get the fucking virus.. One of the mega churches in the state didn't cancel their services of expected thousands on Sunday.  They still had the pub crawl on Saturday and people were texting me to ask where I was at???!!!  I've been hearing conversations at work that I'm just floored at b/c I truly didn't know that I worked with MONSTERS.  Yeah, they're monsters when worrying about how to get signatures from clients is a bigger deal than your employees, their families, society, or "it's just old people that are really at risk."  Hey, thanks, those are my parents.

I'm really upset about all of this.  I'm expending a lot of mental energy to stay calm and collected, b/c this is also super upheaving K's last semester of nursing school as they're starting to decide if the nursing students are going to be pushed out of the hospital or what.  K's home patient is also a special needs respiratory child.  We distanced this weekend and intend to as much as we possibly can.  Roller derby has cancelled for the foreseeable future.  The courts have just closed.  But hey, let's get one more fucking case signed before we worry about us.

short+sassy

Late, breaking Louisiana news.  As of midnight tonight, all bars, restaurants, and casinos will be closed until April 13th.  It's devastating.  So many of them are small mom/pop places.  I'm sure some of them won't be able to survive almost a month without much business.  Not to mention the thousands of servers/bartenders who in as fast as one day, have no money coming in.

Like other states have done, restaurants can still provide take-out and delivery, if they want to.

I actually have $195 in food credits at Harrahs.  They will all be expired by the time the casino opens back up.  Guess where I'm stopping after work?  That is going to be a LOT of to-go food!

Nothing's been said yet, but I'm also worried my p/t job is going to suspend work indefinitely.  They are in the hotel industry.  I've heard a rumor that the hotel occupancy rate in NOLA right now is only 8%.

The "worry record" that keeps spinning in my brain is just going faster.  I know we're all worried.  Thanks you all, for always being such a supportive community to sometimes just "get it out!" in.     

OliveOilsMom

We had a nice time this weekend.  We mostly stuck to our timeshare and only left for dinner.  We went to the casinos to have our dinners and they weren't too busy - so that is good.  Though the walk on the boardwalk in between the casinos had a wide range of people in their Irish regalia.  While we walked around, we kept our distance from everyone and kept up with the hand sanitzer.  Morton's was delicious!  They took our picture and sent us home with a paper frame and souvenir menu that said Happy Anniversary on top.  It was nice!

H ended up going into the office when we got back home this morning, he is making sure his office is set up to WFH.  My office is basically letting you do what is best.  Its easy to be in the office and socially distance yourself.  Meetings have been cancelled and if any are necessary, they won't serve buffet food any longer.  So for now, I will continue to go into the office. Daycare is still open, so I think DD will continue to go.  I'm unsure, but H wants her to go since she actually learns stuff there. 

I'm glad that most states are taking steps to make sure food insecure kids will continue to get meals at home.  Its easy for me to stock up on food because we have some extra income to be able to devote, but lower income people don't have that luxury.