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Wedding Woes

You have little options, and zero that won't cause conflict.

Dear Prudence,

My mother, in her 70s, talks frequently about her traumatic childhood with her “battle ax” mother and her disengaged father. Both of her parents died several years ago. I had great relationships with my grandparents when they were alive, as did my brother, many cousins, and uncles. They were warm, funny, and attentive to us, and we loved them dearly. This obviously doesn’t align with my mother’s experiences.

After my grandfather died, my mother was in charge of making his arrangements. When I visited his grave recently, I was shocked to see that the epitaph my mother chose for his headstone read “I had to work.” Apparently, she thought it appropriate to memorialize her grievance that she didn’t get enough of his attention as a child … on his gravestone at the National Cemetery.

My grandfather grew up in abject poverty, had very little formal education, served in WWII, and, yes, worked two jobs for 40 years to provide for his family. Going back to when my mother was a child, he was there at every holiday, graduation, and wedding. It saddens and infuriates me that his life would be reduced to this epitaph when he was so much more to many people. (For what it’s worth, my mother can be very difficult and is estranged from nearly everyone in the family.)

I don’t have authority to get the headstone changed without my mother’s permission, and the thought of bringing it up with her sends me into a panic. My brother agrees with me but won’t engage with her at all. Is there a way to tackle this that will result in justice for my beloved grandfather while also preserving the relationship with my mother?

— Respect for Gramps

Re: You have little options, and zero that won't cause conflict.

  • Yikes, all the options here are bad. If you have to say something, say it but recognize she has the final say there. 

    You could, bring flowers with signs that say “beloved grandfather” each week to his grave. That way people know he was cared for, however your memories are really what matters. 
  • Yikes, all the options here are bad. If you have to say something, say it but recognize she has the final say there. 

    You could, bring flowers with signs that say “beloved grandfather” each week to his grave. That way people know he was cared for, however your memories are really what matters. 
    I like this approach.


    If you know that your mother at nearly 3/4 of a century is like this, what good will discussing it accomplish? 

    No, you don't bring it up especially knowing that she herself will likely alienate you in the process.  
  • mrsconn23mrsconn23 member
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    MNNEBride said:
    You could wait until your Mom passes and then have the headstone changed.
    That's literally the path of least resistance.  

    Also, LW is a bit of a jerk as far as discrediting their mom's experience growing up.  I'm not saying it's 100% true, but perception can be reality.  Also, grandparents are different with their grandkids than they are with their own kids. There are so many reasons for this; they have more time, more money, have reflected on past mistakes, there's less pressure because it's not your kids, and so on and so forth. 

    So yes, they were likely wonderful and warm and all those things to LW, but they may have been tough growing up because they were worried about how their kids are going to turn out, money may have been tight, going to war and coming back and reacclimating is hard, and so many other things.

    I'm not saying mom isn't difficult to be around, but maybe part of that is people acting like her experiences and feelings aren't important. 
  • mrsconn23 said:
    MNNEBride said:
    You could wait until your Mom passes and then have the headstone changed.
    That's literally the path of least resistance.  

    Also, LW is a bit of a jerk as far as discrediting their mom's experience growing up.  I'm not saying it's 100% true, but perception can be reality.  Also, grandparents are different with their grandkids than they are with their own kids. There are so many reasons for this; they have more time, more money, have reflected on past mistakes, there's less pressure because it's not your kids, and so on and so forth. 

    So yes, they were likely wonderful and warm and all those things to LW, but they may have been tough growing up because they were worried about how their kids are going to turn out, money may have been tight, going to war and coming back and reacclimating is hard, and so many other things.

    I'm not saying mom isn't difficult to be around, but maybe part of that is people acting like her experiences and feelings aren't important. 
    If mom wasn't already alienated from the family I'd think there's more truth to her commentary.

    Once, years ago my MIL complained that when she was a SAH mom for DH's youth she said it was really more like she was a single mother because FIL worked so much.

    I was really quick to tell her she was full of it and that my aunt who was recently widowed when my uncle suddenly dropped dead was an actual single mother.  She was the active parent in a single income home and the household tasks were simply not divided equally as FIL was working well over 40 hours a week.  Every time she tried to bring it up as a sob story I quickly reminded her that her phrasing was entirely wrong and essentially that this sob story of "woe is me" didn't pass the smell test. 

    It's been years and she hasn't brought it up.   My point in the story is that my MIL will embellish the truth to fit her narrative.  I don't pick battles that aren't worth it and considering the LW wasn't alive for their mom's youth, it's not worth engaging on that one. 
  • I think what her mother did is terrible.  It would have been better to not have had a headstone.  But the LW isn't great either with insinuating that the grandparents were great and the mom was just a complainer.

    The LW wasn't there.  They don't know.  The mom says they were terrible parents.  The LW says they were wonderful grandparents.  Both of these things can be true.

    They aren't going to change their mother's mind.  I know it bugs them, but they can plan to for a new engraving, once the mother passes away.
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  • Headstones are for the living. I promise you, grandpa really could give a shit what a rock above his decaying body says. 

    But yeah, I'm on team wait for mom to die and then do whatever you want. If it makes you feel better, you can always put something about how she could hold a grudge forever on hers. 
  • Headstones are for the living. I promise you, grandpa really could give a shit what a rock above his decaying body says. 

    But yeah, I'm on team wait for mom to die and then do whatever you want. If it makes you feel better, you can always put something about how she could hold a grudge forever on hers. 
    "Made of stone just like Mom." 
  • I might sympathize more with mom but it’s a big sign that everyone else in the family is estranged. Something that passive aggressive also says a lot too. 


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  • Off topic but my dad wants us to put "told you I was sick" on his headstone. He is kind of a hypochondriac and we tease him about it a lot, lol.
  • You can donate a tree to a city garden and have the plaque read whatever you want.  Or donate a bench.  And you don't have to tell your mother anything about that.

    That's what I'm getting - a tree with a plaque.  And I might ask for a quote from one of my favourite movies to be on it to freak people out.  Paraphrased but "And here she shall be buried, and this old tree will seal her fate.  Its roots will be her prison which must never be disturbed".  It'll maybe give people a laugh.

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