Wedding Woes

Alma NOT-her

Dear Prudence,

My girlfriend is brilliant, both in her grasp of new skills or ideas generally, but also professionally. She is a researcher in a complex technical field and received her undergraduate and PhD degrees from Harvard and MIT, respectively. She’s really proud of her work but also has complicated feelings about her alma maters. She grew up in a blue-collar household, and her parents pushed her not to go to college, but she made it anyway. Once there, she had mixed experiences—she was successful and happy academically but felt the class and money differences incredibly strongly, and believes that most people she went to school with are “entitled idiots with too much money” (in her words).

She felt very alone and was frustrated by cliquey behavior. In her current job, most of her colleagues went to Ivy Leagues, but she feels very welcome and at home because everyone is obsessively focused on the work. My parents are middle class and very invested in signifiers like the right college, a prestigious job, or a name drop. Whenever they introduce her to family or friends, or when we visit, they always describe her as “Harvard educated” and emphasize her prestigious accomplishments. I’m glad they’re proud of how smart and hardworking she is—I’m proud too! But it makes her really uncomfortable, especially because she wants to basically reject the exact class signifiers they’re aspiring to for her, and I’d like to ask them to tone it down. How do I do that?

—Trying to Make It Easier

Re: Alma NOT-her

  • Like if you parents want to be snooty about it they’d be saying she went to school in Cambridge anyway. 
  • short+sassyshort+sassy member
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    edited April 2023
    I like this one.  It's a funny letter.  Even though I think it's ridiculous the LW can't put together a couple basic sentences.

    I'm thinking about how my mom introduces me to friends vs. how his parents introduce her.

    My mom:  "This is my daughter Jenny."  Not, "This is my college-educated daughter Jenny, who has a degree in Business Administration."

    LW's parents:  "This is Jane, John's girlfriend.  She graduated from Harvard and has a PhD in Aerospace Engineering* from MIT."

    *She's a ROCKET scientist!
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  • "Mom, dad, I know you're proud of Jenny; it makes her very uncomfortable when you brag about her accomplishments, she'd rather stay low-key.  Please don't do that".

    And man, there are some serious class issues being dealt with here and Jenny absolutely sees and gets it.  LW needs to rein in his parents, stat.
  • It seems like there's conflict on both sides here.  The GF is also making some harsher snap judgements and the LW's parents are also really proud of her accomplishments.  

    But the GF would like to be known as something other than "Harvard" so it's OK to ask the parents to do that. 
  • A college memory.

    My friend and I had both just been dumped.  We were feeling bummed about it and decided to go on a girl's trip to Stateline, NV.  For those not familiar with this place, it's pretty funny.  Picture a vast desert with nothing around for as far as the eye can see, but scrub and the lone highway lanes running through it.  And then, like an oasis, there are a few large and ostentatious buildings, some gas stations and fast food places.

    You just crossed over the CA/NV border and those buildings are casinos.  For the discriminating gamblers who cannot wait the additional 45ish minutes to get to Las Vegas, lol.

    But they are also hotels and they are cheap to stay in, so that is where my friend and I went.

    I'm at a blackjack table and am chit-chatting with the guy sitting next to me.  He told me he was going to UC San Diego medical school.  Me: "No way!  I live in San Marcos!"  That's also in SD county and about 30 minutes away from him. Then I ask him where he went for his undergrad.  Harvard.  I'm now assuming he is full of it.  Harvard?  And now he's in medical school?  Yeah right!  But he asked for my number and I gave it to him.

    He was not full of it, lol.  We ended up going on a couple dates.  Didn't work out romantically, but we remained friends for awhile.  The friend who was on the trip with me nicknamed him, "Harvard man."  
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