Prudie Day

ei34

57 and drizzly here, happy Summer lol. Grades are in and just waiting out the end today and tomorrow.  
Maybe a UO but I like the new font ...not on board with the pink even though I like some shades of the color, but the font is nice.  How's everyone doing?

short+sassy

@ei34, it's 87 here.  I wish we could take an average so both of us are at 72, lol.

I like the new board design better.  The pink is a bit too intense.  But it's nice to have more color.

My dental visit was pretty awful.  Nothing they did wrong, just really painful and unpleasant.  They gave me a pain med prescription.  But it was almost 4 hours before I could take the first pill.  That was how long my mouth stayed numb enough that I couldn't really drink water to take the pill with, lol.  I also had trouble sleeping and probably only got a few hours in.

I'm not in pain today, thankfully.  But I can't eat solid foods for another two days.  The new medicine I'm taking is supposed to suppress appetite, but I haven't had much of that.  I especially wish I had that side effect right now, lol.  So hungry!

But it should be a good day, overall.  The work at my job has picked up and I'm happier when I feel productive.

Casadena

@ei34 I'll trade you weather! It's already 80 and humid here, yuck. G's class has a field trip to a splash pad today though, so 80 is probably better for that. My parents are coming tonight to spend the night and they leave for Prague tomorrow to spend 2 weeks with my sister. They haven't been in 4-5 years and she is so excited! Wish we could join, but that kind of trip just isn't feasible for a few more years.

Busy at work, maybe a break for a yoga class at noon, otherwise just house chores every chance i get!

climbingsingle

This weather is miserable. Barely in the 60s, raining. And it's supposed to rain all weekend and into next week. Ugh. Where is summer? 

VarunaTT

I could handle the pink a bit better if the solid pink buttons weren't a thing.  I don't mind it in the text or the outline buttons too much, though I prefered the blue.  Not going to lie, my brain was also like, whyyyy does it have to be pink this feels so gendered!!!!!

Working from home yesterday was exactly what I needed.  Coming back to the office today was hard.  It's just so noisy in the office with all of the people, machines, and the traffic outside (which is just our location) which is absolutely no one's fault, it just is.  I was really able to concentrate and get things accomplished that I needed to.  Sometimes I get annoyed with my boss.  I just feel like I have some major projects on my plate I need to grind out and he's over here worried and nattering at me because he can't figure out how to see the 2 line, 5 star review a previous client left.  Also, we're in a "If you would like me to prioritize this differently, please advise" vs. "it's all important" discussion and I'm kind of starting to get frazzled with it.  I'm very glad vacation is coming up.

Went out with a friend last night and got to see his wife too.  He and I have always been closer, but I love his wife and always enjoy her company, so that was really nice.  Their kids are finally older now, so they can go out together more, so I've started to see her more now.  Then went out to karaoke.  I even put makeup on.  It was nice to be out for a bit, but I was glad to get home.  Going to see Astroid City tonight.

short+sassy

@VarunaTT, I had a previous job where it was all-hectic, all the time.  There were three managers who at various times would have work for me.  They were good about telling me when something was urgent.  But it wasn't unusual to have more than one "urgent" task at a time.

I did a lot of, "I understand this is urgent, Larry.  But Curly has me putting the finishing touches on his slide show presentation for this afternoon.  I need 30 more minutes for that.  And Moe needs the client's invoice to go out by the end of the day, that will take 2-3 hours.  Your task will take about one hour, is it a higher priority than either of those?"

It was a system that actually worked really well because the managers were understanding about the total amount of work that needed to come out of our office.  Not just the specific thing they wanted done.  More often than not, as long as they knew what was happening, they were fine with me getting to their thing after I was done with the other ones.  If there was a dispute, the Big Boss (who was one of those managers) would make the call on what got priority.

mrsconn23

It's been hot here, but not super humid yet.  Today is only going to be 75 for the high.  This weekend is going to get really warm plus rain, so the humidity is coming.  

We have DH's cousin's wedding this weekend and it's OOT.  DefConn isn't invited (no kids under 16), so he's going to hang out with BIL (it is DH/SIL's cousin getting married, but BIL isn't really interested in going w/o SIL, and I totally understand that).  I feel 'meh' about going in general, but at least there's going to be an open bar.  There is some family dramz, so I'll be looking for gossip. Hee. 

SSDD otherwise.  Prudie coming up. 

VarunaTT

@short+sassy Boss isn't terrible about it.  I do know part of it is that he also has a lot on his plate, so when things float up from his subconscious, it's like he has to follow it down.  It's not about me and he's absolutely not ever irritated with me when I explain things.  It just gets annoying when I'm spending time on something that in the big picture is insignificant right now, but he can't let go of right now.  He's the only one I work for, so I don't have to balance too much most of the time.  And as I remind myself, only 7 months ago now, it could be so much worse.

MyNameIsNot

I hadn't even noticed the font change! But I'm not a fan of the shade of pink. It's just too bubblegum or something. The font is nice, though. 

It's cold and rainy here today too. It's been raining all week and everything is muddy. But I think it should clear out and get warm this weekend, so there's that. I'm debating going to costco on lunch since it's too gross out to walk the dog (what I usually do on lunch). Otherwise SSDD here. I need a vacation. 

MissKittyDanger

@ei34 same about font. Tbh I felt that TK would be the kind of company to vomit rainbows all over so happily shocked.

MissKittyDanger

It's hot a.f here

I keep thinking it's Friday and it's not and I'm just disappointed lol

mrsconn23

Is anyone else following this missing submersile story?  It's absolutely wild.  I also have a lot of thoughts on the whole thing.  

Casadena

mrsconn23 said:

Is anyone else following this missing submersile story?  It's absolutely wild.  I also have a lot of thoughts on the whole thing.  

Yes, and i want to hear all the thoughts. I'm swinging wildly back and forth. 

mrsconn23

Casadena said:

mrsconn23 said:

Is anyone else following this missing submersile story?  It's absolutely wild.  I also have a lot of thoughts on the whole thing.  

Yes, and i want to hear all the thoughts. I'm swinging wildly back and forth. 

First of all, this is proof positive that having a ton of $$ =/= having a lick of sense.  This trip was $250k per person, but that's like $25 to a billionaire.   They BOLTED them into a vessel and had it synced up to a game controller to navigate it.  It's giving 'you get what you pay for'. 

Second, the CEO of this company has said some wild things, out loud, in public, on TV, etc. about how, basically, safety is a 'joke' or a 'waste'.  So I'm sure the R+D and quality protocols were...lacking. 

Third, this is dick measuring with money.  And also, it feels like icky death tourism.  They aren't going down for research or any other reason than they had the money to do so, this company was willing to do it, and when they get back they have clout for being 'first'.  

So if they are lost and have died at sea, it's sad...but also it seems a blind man on a galloping horse could have told them there was a high chance of this ending badly.  

They've found a debris field near the Titanic and a press conference is coming soon. 

charlotte989875

I also saw one of their execs (who in the past has been pretty strongly against government regulation) criticizing the coast guard for their response and being super nasty about them not responding. Like, you can’t eschew government regulations then be made they aren’t saving your CEO (which of course they are absolutely trying to do). 

VarunaTT

Okay, so the game controller thing is getting to me, b/c I feel like Logitech is going to take a hit and it's not fair.  LOTS of modern military equipment use gaming controllers, literally from Xbox and specially designed by Microsoft.  That is how every drone is flown and I believe I read something that says submarines use them for periscopes.  There's myriad of reasons for it, but it's reality.  Logitech is not the greatest company, but a name brand controller can set you back $60+ sometimes and Logitech fills a niche with middle range products that fairly reliably work.  NOW, billionaire Bob should've bought the name brand or exercised another option.  Like, IDK hiring a professional engineer to do this stuff for him?

Accidents happen and I do feel bad for them. I hope whatever it was that happened, they went quickly and didn't suffer.  B/c the window is shut, even if they did find them, they can't get them up quickly enough with the equipment available to us.

I also resent that the Coast Guard has been out for days on this, with hour to hour coverage, when countries regularly and historically turn away refugees and allow their boats to sink and shrug their shoulders and it's so normal that it's not story worthy anymore.  I have a lot of resentment that there are people in this world that hoard resources and then blow on a $250K joy ride, while I'm leaving cases of water behind my dumpster because of the homeless problems.  $250K could buy a lot of the small homes that one of the organizations here are trying to build to help our homeless, who face so many dangers each and every day, just existing.  

Also, humanity's hubris is reaching it's limits.  There are some places we can't go, so maybe we shouldn't.

VarunaTT

Also, you know those damn billionaires take every loophole to not pay taxes, but now want to use the Coast Guard.  I feel like I'm being stolen from, all the time.  I don't mind paying my taxes really (I mean, I complain, but I like roads, libraries, fire fighters, etc), but I sure hate spending them on people who avoid paying them while being rich.

MyNameIsNot

VarunaTT said:

Okay, so the game controller thing is getting to me, b/c I feel like Logitech is going to take a hit and it's not fair.  LOTS of modern military equipment use gaming controllers, literally from Xbox and specially designed by Microsoft.  That is how every drone is flown and I believe I read something that says submarines use them for periscopes.  There's myriad of reasons for it, but it's reality.  Logitech is not the greatest company, but a name brand controller can set you back $60+ sometimes and Logitech fills a niche with middle range products that fairly reliably work.  NOW, billionaire Bob should've bought the name brand or exercised another option.  Like, IDK hiring a professional engineer to do this stuff for him?

Accidents happen and I do feel bad for them. I hope whatever it was that happened, they went quickly and didn't suffer.  B/c the window is shut, even if they did find them, they can't get them up quickly enough with the equipment available to us.

I also resent that the Coast Guard has been out for days on this, with hour to hour coverage, when countries regularly and historically turn away refugees and allow their boats to sink and shrug their shoulders and it's so normal that it's not story worthy anymore.  I have a lot of resentment that there are people in this world that hoard resources and then blow on a $250K joy ride, while I'm leaving cases of water behind my dumpster because of the homeless problems.  $250K could buy a lot of the small homes that one of the organizations here are trying to build to help our homeless, who face so many dangers each and every day, just existing.  

Also, humanity's hubris is reaching it's limits.  There are some places we can't go, so maybe we shouldn't.

This is where I am. Go to space, go to the ocean floor, whatever, I don't care. I guess it's sad if they're dead, but sometimes high risk hobbies turn out badly. But I'm pissed at the amount of resources that are going into this search and rescue operation while we stand here complaining that we don't have resources too help the homeless, take refugees, preserve the environment, or do anything for humanity. 

At the very least, these companies should be required to pay into a contingency fund that would offset the cost to the coast guard. 

short+sassy

Wasting money and resources for the Coast Guard is extra frustrating because, even if we knew exactly where this submersible is, there's nothing they can do about it if it is too far down in the ocean.  Which it probably has been.

I almost feel like the US is just putting on a show like, "Look, look!  We sent in our Coast Guard.  We are doing everything we can."  Which is for nothing but the most infinitesimal chance that those people could have been saved.

But that is what the US and a lot of countries do.  Spend enormous sums for marginal or unnecessary things, while large swathes of real people are suffering.

charlotte989875

MyNameIsNot said:

VarunaTT said:

Okay, so the game controller thing is getting to me, b/c I feel like Logitech is going to take a hit and it's not fair.  LOTS of modern military equipment use gaming controllers, literally from Xbox and specially designed by Microsoft.  That is how every drone is flown and I believe I read something that says submarines use them for periscopes.  There's myriad of reasons for it, but it's reality.  Logitech is not the greatest company, but a name brand controller can set you back $60+ sometimes and Logitech fills a niche with middle range products that fairly reliably work.  NOW, billionaire Bob should've bought the name brand or exercised another option.  Like, IDK hiring a professional engineer to do this stuff for him?

Accidents happen and I do feel bad for them. I hope whatever it was that happened, they went quickly and didn't suffer.  B/c the window is shut, even if they did find them, they can't get them up quickly enough with the equipment available to us.

I also resent that the Coast Guard has been out for days on this, with hour to hour coverage, when countries regularly and historically turn away refugees and allow their boats to sink and shrug their shoulders and it's so normal that it's not story worthy anymore.  I have a lot of resentment that there are people in this world that hoard resources and then blow on a $250K joy ride, while I'm leaving cases of water behind my dumpster because of the homeless problems.  $250K could buy a lot of the small homes that one of the organizations here are trying to build to help our homeless, who face so many dangers each and every day, just existing.  

Also, humanity's hubris is reaching it's limits.  There are some places we can't go, so maybe we shouldn't.

This is where I am. Go to space, go to the ocean floor, whatever, I don't care. I guess it's sad if they're dead, but sometimes high risk hobbies turn out badly. But I'm pissed at the amount of resources that are going into this search and rescue operation while we stand here complaining that we don't have resources too help the homeless, take refugees, preserve the environment, or do anything for humanity. 

At the very least, these companies should be required to pay into a contingency fund that would offset the cost to the coast guard. 

The Kathmandu government started doing basically this for rescues to Everest. Expeditions have to either have insurance that covers the costs of the emergency rescue and medical insurance because it was too expensive for the government to pay to rescue people. 

banana468

I'd like to take the time right now to say that if you're selling your house and you have a storage unit and you KNOW that your granddaughter is in the hospital, DO NOT ASK HER PARENTS IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN YOUR FCKING USED COFFEE TABLES.

Thank you for attending my Ted Talk. 

short+sassy

charlotte989875 said:

MyNameIsNot said:

This is where I am. Go to space, go to the ocean floor, whatever, I don't care. I guess it's sad if they're dead, but sometimes high risk hobbies turn out badly. But I'm pissed at the amount of resources that are going into this search and rescue operation while we stand here complaining that we don't have resources too help the homeless, take refugees, preserve the environment, or do anything for humanity. 

At the very least, these companies should be required to pay into a contingency fund that would offset the cost to the coast guard. 

The Kathmandu government started doing basically this for rescues to Everest. Expeditions have to either have insurance that covers the costs of the emergency rescue and medical insurance because it was too expensive for the government to pay to rescue people. 

The only thing I can think of that is a bit like this in the US is for hiking or ski rescues.

I don't know how common vs. rare it is, but if someone gets lost or injured in the forest or on a mountain, they can potentially be charged for the rescue effort.  Generally, if the incident happened because they weren't following rules/guidelines.  Like leaving the hiking trail.

MyNameIsNot

short+sassy said:

charlotte989875 said:

MyNameIsNot said:

This is where I am. Go to space, go to the ocean floor, whatever, I don't care. I guess it's sad if they're dead, but sometimes high risk hobbies turn out badly. But I'm pissed at the amount of resources that are going into this search and rescue operation while we stand here complaining that we don't have resources too help the homeless, take refugees, preserve the environment, or do anything for humanity. 

At the very least, these companies should be required to pay into a contingency fund that would offset the cost to the coast guard. 

The Kathmandu government started doing basically this for rescues to Everest. Expeditions have to either have insurance that covers the costs of the emergency rescue and medical insurance because it was too expensive for the government to pay to rescue people. 

The only thing I can think of that is a bit like this in the US is for hiking or ski rescues.

I don't know how common vs. rare it is, but if someone gets lost or injured in the forest or on a mountain, they can potentially be charged for the rescue effort.  Generally, if the incident happened because they weren't following rules/guidelines.  Like leaving the hiking trail.

I'm just seeing the next logical step. All these billionaires are clamoring to go to space. In the next few years, there will be a bunch of start up businesses that are going to do exactly what Oceangate did and try to cut corners on safety and regulations. As soon as something goes wrong, they're going to expect NASA and the space force (does that still exist?) to jump in and rescue them. And it's going to be at taxpayer expense.

But billionaires own congress, so you're never going to pass any kind of regulation around safety or requiring people to pay for their own million dollar rescues. 

It's going to be a day. I haven't even finished my first cup of coffee and I'm already all mad at the world, lol.

mrsconn23

MyNameIsNot said:

I'm just seeing the next logical step. All these billionaires are clamoring to go to space. In the next few years, there will be a bunch of start up businesses that are going to do exactly what Oceangate did and try to cut corners on safety and regulations. As soon as something goes wrong, they're going to expect NASA and the space force (does that still exist?) to jump in and rescue them. And it's going to be at taxpayer expense.

But billionaires own congress, so you're never going to pass any kind of regulation around safety or requiring people to pay for their own million dollar rescues. 

It's going to be a day. I haven't even finished my first cup of coffee and I'm already all mad at the world, lol.

Yes, Space Force is still a thing.  I feel like it's a dept of the Air Force (like the Marines are a dept of the Navy).  I think the one saving grace is that there is a feeling that the ocean is more well-known than space is.  Therefore, if they lose contact with a billionaire's ship that's held together by popsicle sticks and gum, they're likely going to give up a lot easier and/or not spend the resources since it's a LOT harder to launch an object into space than dive deep into the ocean.  Plus if you get flung out into space, who knows what your trajectory will be. 

I'm really pissed reading that the Navy knew pretty much since Sunday that they were likely gone because the explosion was picked up on radar.  A lot of time and expense was put out for a less than 1% chance they would be saved.  

charlotte989875

mrsconn23 said:

MyNameIsNot said:

I'm just seeing the next logical step. All these billionaires are clamoring to go to space. In the next few years, there will be a bunch of start up businesses that are going to do exactly what Oceangate did and try to cut corners on safety and regulations. As soon as something goes wrong, they're going to expect NASA and the space force (does that still exist?) to jump in and rescue them. And it's going to be at taxpayer expense.

But billionaires own congress, so you're never going to pass any kind of regulation around safety or requiring people to pay for their own million dollar rescues. 

It's going to be a day. I haven't even finished my first cup of coffee and I'm already all mad at the world, lol.

Yes, Space Force is still a thing.  I feel like it's a dept of the Air Force (like the Marines are a dept of the Navy).  I think the one saving grace is that there is a feeling that the ocean is more well-known than space is.  Therefore, if they lose contact with a billionaire's ship that's held together by popsicle sticks and gum, they're likely going to give up a lot easier and/or not spend the resources since it's a LOT harder to launch an object into space than dive deep into the ocean.  Plus if you get flung out into space, who knows what your trajectory will be. 

I'm really pissed reading that the Navy knew pretty much since Sunday that they were likely gone because the explosion was picked up on radar.  A lot of time and expense was put out for a less than 1% chance they would be saved.  

From why I read the Navy immediately informed the coast guard they picked it up but since they couldn’t confirm it was the submersible they had to keep doing the search until they found the debris field (or other confirmation). 

VarunaTT

Wapo did a great writeup/interviews about why the search was continued.  

Basically, yes the Navy "heard" it, but hearing it is really just lines on a paper that they interpret and we don't really understand what we hear in the ocean.  Plus, even if they 100% did know that was an explosion, they would've continued the rescue to make sure there were no survivors.  The example given was a sub that exploded and they were still able to rescue 33 survivors, even after knowing there was an explosion.  

I can't remember where I read this, but we actually know more about space than we do the ocean.  It's easier for us to observe and travel to space than it is for us to observe and travel to the ocean.  More than 80% of the oceans are completely unmapped or explored by humans at all.  To observe space, we just look up with instruments; observing things in very deep water is a technology still in it's infancy.