Wedding Woes

The ring doesn't hold any power.

Dear Prudence,

I am 95 percent certain I know the answer to this dilemma, I just can’t dislodge the illogical 5 percent that insists I am making the wrong call. My mother was an awful person. Not in any subtle, family-dynamic way, either. She was a public drunk, abuser, and general bigot. None of her five kids lived with her for long (thankfully, her one saving grace was that she picked men to father her children who could and would pay her for custody). She was also a victim of her own upbringing, but that is something I have come to terms with through therapy and isn’t relevant right now. That brings us to my current problem.

My sister Emily always struggled with the fact she was the child of someone like that. To the extent that when she had her own family she lied to them about our mother. Even though Mom was alive at the time, Em made her into the sainted dead to her husband and kids. A lie she’s kept up for decades. And I get that. It can be hard, sometimes, not to have the life and basic social relationships that people consider to be “included with purchase.” However, it means that her son, my nephew, thinks his grandmother was a lovely, sweet, politically engaged woman. And he wants to use that woman’s wedding ring, which I have, to propose to his boyfriend. My mother would have spat at him and called him a slur. Of course, he’s never going to know that. No one is going to tell him the truth about his grandmother at this point. But I just can’t shake the superstitious conviction that if I gave him the ring it would be bad luck somehow. It feels wrong. But it’s the right thing to do, right? Foster this lovely illusion for the new generations?

—Not Usually Superstitious

Re: The ring doesn't hold any power.

  • IMO, all the more reason to have him use the ring. There's no bad luck attached to it. 

    I also can't help but question the sister though. In all these years, she's never been honest with her husband about her childhood? How deep of an emotional bond can you possibly have you if you haven't opened up about pain you experienced in your formative years?
  • IMO, all the more reason to have him use the ring. There's no bad luck attached to it. 

    I also can't help but question the sister though. In all these years, she's never been honest with her husband about her childhood? How deep of an emotional bond can you possibly have you if you haven't opened up about pain you experienced in your formative years?
    Totally agree.  I think it's FANTASTIC to give away the ring in that capacity.  She does not deserve to let it be powered to use the way she would have wanted. 
  • Luck and superstition have no power if he doesn't know the truth. 

    Assuming sister is still alive and married to the dad, that's rough, but really not LW's business. 
  • You’re the only one giving that ring power and meaning. Giving it up is the right call. 
  • I guess I’m the dissenting one here, but I wouldn’t personally want to use a ring for the purpose of my marriage if it was from a complete monster of a person who hated everything I am. Maybe I would view it as a big F you and use it but my gut feeling is I wouldn’t want it. I know it’s just an object but I just wouldn’t want that for myself. I’m also saying this as someone who just gave away a $300 bottle of wine because BIL B gave it to me and there were all sorts of weird feelings and past things attached to it. And tbh I’m feeling kind of relieved it’s finally out of the house. I say this as someone who is not usually sentimental or overly attached to things too. 


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  • I'm actually in agreement with levioosa, i woudln't want it personally. BUT the nephew doesn't know anything real about the grandma and likely won't so maybe it's ok because it's not HIS baggage?  But it would also suck to find out the truth about Gma after using the ring. 
  • I don't think I'd want to pass it on.  In this day and age, it's merely a matter of time/chance before nephew discovers some facts.  I don't necessarily agree with nephew's mom, but I wouldn't reveal the secret....but I wouldn't play into it anymore by giving him that ring either.
  • levioosa said:
    I guess I’m the dissenting one here, but I wouldn’t personally want to use a ring for the purpose of my marriage if it was from a complete monster of a person who hated everything I am. Maybe I would view it as a big F you and use it but my gut feeling is I wouldn’t want it. I know it’s just an object but I just wouldn’t want that for myself. I’m also saying this as someone who just gave away a $300 bottle of wine because BIL B gave it to me and there were all sorts of weird feelings and past things attached to it. And tbh I’m feeling kind of relieved it’s finally out of the house. I say this as someone who is not usually sentimental or overly attached to things too. 
    I think the difference though for you is that you have a gift in your own home and understand the baggage that is associated with the giver and the item itself is for you.  Did you tell the person the baggage associated with the wine? 

    In this instance the only thing I'd consider is talking to the sister.  But if the LW doesn't give the ring to the nephew then they're going to upset the nephew and...then what happens?  

    What is the LW actually looking to see come from this piece of jewelry that has ties to a person the LW still actively dislikes?  If there's no good that can come from it then what about as an alternative, find a quality jeweler who will buy estate pieces and sell it?    It seems like holding onto it with no intent to get rid of it is the LW's own baggage that they're refusing to part with. 
  • banana468 said:
    levioosa said:
    I guess I’m the dissenting one here, but I wouldn’t personally want to use a ring for the purpose of my marriage if it was from a complete monster of a person who hated everything I am. Maybe I would view it as a big F you and use it but my gut feeling is I wouldn’t want it. I know it’s just an object but I just wouldn’t want that for myself. I’m also saying this as someone who just gave away a $300 bottle of wine because BIL B gave it to me and there were all sorts of weird feelings and past things attached to it. And tbh I’m feeling kind of relieved it’s finally out of the house. I say this as someone who is not usually sentimental or overly attached to things too. 
    I think the difference though for you is that you have a gift in your own home and understand the baggage that is associated with the giver and the item itself is for you.  Did you tell the person the baggage associated with the wine? 

    In this instance the only thing I'd consider is talking to the sister.  But if the LW doesn't give the ring to the nephew then they're going to upset the nephew and...then what happens?  

    What is the LW actually looking to see come from this piece of jewelry that has ties to a person the LW still actively dislikes?  If there's no good that can come from it then what about as an alternative, find a quality jeweler who will buy estate pieces and sell it?    It seems like holding onto it with no intent to get rid of it is the LW's own baggage that they're refusing to part with. 
    No, I didn’t tell them about the baggage, however in the same vein, it’s because it was limited to us. I was given the bottle of wine and then BIL B tried to get me to cheat on H, told family members I had cheated on H, and he hit on me. I didn’t want that gift. It just killed me to give such a nice bottle away because damn it if I don’t love a good bottle of wine. But a ring from a racist bigot to a lovely couple in what sounds to be a gay interracial marriage? I wouldn’t want any part of that gift. 


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  • banana468 said:
    levioosa said:
    I guess I’m the dissenting one here, but I wouldn’t personally want to use a ring for the purpose of my marriage if it was from a complete monster of a person who hated everything I am. Maybe I would view it as a big F you and use it but my gut feeling is I wouldn’t want it. I know it’s just an object but I just wouldn’t want that for myself. I’m also saying this as someone who just gave away a $300 bottle of wine because BIL B gave it to me and there were all sorts of weird feelings and past things attached to it. And tbh I’m feeling kind of relieved it’s finally out of the house. I say this as someone who is not usually sentimental or overly attached to things too. 
    I think the difference though for you is that you have a gift in your own home and understand the baggage that is associated with the giver and the item itself is for you.  Did you tell the person the baggage associated with the wine? 

    In this instance the only thing I'd consider is talking to the sister.  But if the LW doesn't give the ring to the nephew then they're going to upset the nephew and...then what happens?  

    What is the LW actually looking to see come from this piece of jewelry that has ties to a person the LW still actively dislikes?  If there's no good that can come from it then what about as an alternative, find a quality jeweler who will buy estate pieces and sell it?    It seems like holding onto it with no intent to get rid of it is the LW's own baggage that they're refusing to part with. 
    I think it'd be pretty easy to say, "This has a lot of sentimental value to me, I'm sorry, I don't want to give it up yet".  No one has to know that the sentimental value is I'd like it to burn in a holy fire.  It's also still a connection to LW's mother, that maybe LW isn't quite ready to give up just yet, but when they are/do, it should be how they want to in any situation, not just this one.
  • VarunaTT said:
    banana468 said:
    levioosa said:
    I guess I’m the dissenting one here, but I wouldn’t personally want to use a ring for the purpose of my marriage if it was from a complete monster of a person who hated everything I am. Maybe I would view it as a big F you and use it but my gut feeling is I wouldn’t want it. I know it’s just an object but I just wouldn’t want that for myself. I’m also saying this as someone who just gave away a $300 bottle of wine because BIL B gave it to me and there were all sorts of weird feelings and past things attached to it. And tbh I’m feeling kind of relieved it’s finally out of the house. I say this as someone who is not usually sentimental or overly attached to things too. 
    I think the difference though for you is that you have a gift in your own home and understand the baggage that is associated with the giver and the item itself is for you.  Did you tell the person the baggage associated with the wine? 

    In this instance the only thing I'd consider is talking to the sister.  But if the LW doesn't give the ring to the nephew then they're going to upset the nephew and...then what happens?  

    What is the LW actually looking to see come from this piece of jewelry that has ties to a person the LW still actively dislikes?  If there's no good that can come from it then what about as an alternative, find a quality jeweler who will buy estate pieces and sell it?    It seems like holding onto it with no intent to get rid of it is the LW's own baggage that they're refusing to part with. 
    I think it'd be pretty easy to say, "This has a lot of sentimental value to me, I'm sorry, I don't want to give it up yet".  No one has to know that the sentimental value is I'd like it to burn in a holy fire.  It's also still a connection to LW's mother, that maybe LW isn't quite ready to give up just yet, but when they are/do, it should be how they want to in any situation, not just this one.
    The bolded ...  Pure gold!!  

    That 5% the LW is sensing is 100% the reason NOT to give him the ring and trust LW's instincts!  Wouldn't want the LW's Nephew to have a ring with that kind of negative energy attached to it to propose to his boyfriend with!!!  The ring that the nephew uses deserves to have new and clear energies!!!
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