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Guest List Drama

We're currently embroiled in the middle of the guest list drama.  I thought everything was pretty smooth, but you just can't please everyone. 

In short (kind of), my grandparents are divorced and cannot stand each other, but obviously they will have to make do at my wedding.  They have two daughters - my Mom and her sister.  I dislike my aunt, who is incredibly self-involved.  My aunt talks to her Dad but not her Mom.  In fact, if my aunt attends an event, my grandmother will not.  I dislike my grandmother, too, but that's beside the point.  I made the decision to not invite my aunt or her family.  I have no relationship with them, I never really liked them, and it cause grief to my grandmother who would then pass that grief on to me and my Mom.  Plus they don't socialize with anyone, they don't eat anything, they don't drink anything, and they leave after approximately a half hour - I would hate to have the 6 of them (she has 4 kids, and her husband) come to the wedding for thirty minutes, speak to no one, and leave and we'd be stuck paying nearly $200 for each of them!  And again, besides the point, but she would only give me a $25 gift certificate to Barnes & Nobles.  She always gives gift certificates to B&N because she's a teacher and likes to promote reading, and never for more than $25.  So again, besides the point, but I don't like her, having her there will cause grief to my grandma, I haven't spoken to her in more than 6 years, she doesn't even know my FI's name or anything about us (she probably couldn't even tell you that I live in Miami), and they'll cost over $1200 to show up for a half hour and leave!

Seems simple, right?  Except now my grandpa is throwing a fit that his daughter isn't invited, especially when more extended family (like my Mom's cousins and her step-aunt) are invited.  He's called up my Mom to yell at her about it, and has started making noises about how "we wouldn't want a permanent rift in the family."  My Mom was sobbing last night because she feels like she's stuck between a rock and a hard place, and it isn't even her decision - it's mine! 

Uh, I haven't spoken to my aunt in 6 years!  If she stopped speaking to us, I don't think any of us would notice.  If she's upset that she's not invited, literally the only person she'd talk to would be my grandfather - she does not talk to anyone else in the family.  So we wouldn't even have to hear it!  It's an easy decision for me, and it's final, but I'm afraid my grandfather (who I am very close with) will keep dragging this out and the issue will cause a rift in our relationship.  If this is the hill he wants to die on, so be it, but it seems pointless.  I'm just planning on continuing to be polite but firm, and I did tell my grandpa that if he has any guestlist questions, I'm happy to discuss them, but he needs to direct those questions and issues to me and not my Mom.

Anyone have any advice?  Any antecdotal evidence of other guest list drama to make me feel more normal?

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Re: Guest List Drama

  • YoungDuoYoungDuo member
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    edited December 2011

    I hate the situation for you because family drama is never fun. However, since you have little to no relationship with any of these people, if your grandpa insists that your aunt and her family come, tell him you would be more than happy to have them if he is willing to pay the $1200 it would cost for them to attend. If not, then it is YOUR money and YOUR decision as to who you want to celebrate your big day with.

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  • calindicalindi member
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    edited December 2011
    The problem is even if he paid, I DON'T want her there - if she comes, my grandmother won't.  There's no question, I won't change my mind. 

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  • iluvmytxrgriluvmytxrgr member
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    I'm sorry, I'd tell my grandpa to get over it.  Tell him exactly what you told us.  If he takes issue with it, it's his issue.  It sounds to me like there is already a rift in your family.  She hasn't talked to you in 6 years, you aren't obligated to invite her. 
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  • YoungDuoYoungDuo member
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    Well then I would just tell him to get over it. If you don't have much or any of a relationship with him, then he will just have to deal. I will never understand why people think they should have the decision to say who is invited or not invited to your wedding. I understand it's your grandpa and that sucks because he is family, but it's not fair to you to be miserable on account of him wanting to have his way. Do what makes YOU happy! I'm sure FI will support you either way and that's what's important because you're "stuck" with him from now on Smile
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  • calindicalindi member
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    The biggest problem is that I'm VERY close with my grandpa, we talk every week and visit frequently, so I'm just really disappointed that he's acting like this.  My grandma (his ex-wife) is a huge narcissist and so I'm used to her causing issues, but he's usually the logical sane one.  So I expected him to understand if not be happy about it.  The fact that he's still bringing this up and creating an issue makes me really angry and disappointed.

    I've told him to get over it.  He told me he would... several weeks ago, and then he goes and makes my Mom cry about it!  Ugh!

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  • YoungDuoYoungDuo member
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    edited December 2011
    Oh Cal! I didn't realize you were close to your grandpa, i must have read over that part. I'm sorry to hear he's being that way! i hope he can come to his senses and realize that it is important to you that he's there because you are close with him and it would kill you for him not to be there because he can't put his differences with your grandmother aside, and he because he can't understand why you have differences with your aunt and since it's your day, you don't have to have her there.
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    ... and FI's Mom just realized that all 10 of her siblings and their spouses aren't invited.  And she's indignant.  Oh joy... today is just going to be so much fun!  *sarcasm* 

    At least FI gets to handle that one instead of me, and he has every right to put his foot down - she's not paying a penny, and furthermore hasn't given him a penny since he was 17 years old.  He worked 40 hours a week through college to pay for tuition, rent, food, and books while she took numerous vacations and spa weekends for herself and didn't help him with a penny.

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  • YoungDuoYoungDuo member
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    edited December 2011
    Holy cow! That's a lot that just got piled on!  But I am glad your FI can handle that one and he obviously has very good reasons to back it up with too. I hope this all gets resolved so you don't have to worry about the drama and can focus on planning and being with your FI
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  • edited December 2011
    We had a lot of problems with our guest list. FIL had me in tears a couple times. I realized that those extra random ppl would not influence my day at all (I was a stickiler on the money as well) and at the end of the day, it wasn't worth WWIII. It seems you are adamant so it appears you will have to deal with a grump grandpa :(

    I will say that allowing your side to invite the same extension of family and not the other is unfair. If your Mom's cousins are there then you should allow the same for the other side. I don't know who is fronting the bill but you and your FI need to be consistent.
  • calindicalindi member
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    The consistency is that we are inviting people who we have spoken to in the last two years.  That's our rule of thumb, not the distance.  It's complicated because my Mom's sister is not in our life (the aunt in question) whereas my Mom's cousins are more like siblings to me and we talk on the phone weekly. 


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  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_military-brides_guest-list-drama?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:13Discussion:0d86769f-49ef-489f-906e-152111702891Post:da33fb63-26bd-4ee0-8d67-299724c3f9af">Re: Guest List Drama</a>:
    [QUOTE]The consistency is that we are inviting people who we have spoken to in the last two years.  That's our rule of thumb, not the distance.  It's complicated because my Mom's sister is not in our life (the aunt in question) whereas my Mom's cousins are more like siblings to me and we talk on the phone weekly. 
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    Whatever line you draw, just make sure it's consistent. I have never heard of people doing it they way you do, which is fine because its your wedding. But if you FMIL is feeling slighted explain again and again how you came up with that line. In our case H's family is small, spread out and FULL of drama. My side is VERY large so my ILs got really offended that we were inviting X amount and they couldn't match that number. So they started inviting neighbors, randoms (kid you not H's orthodontists) so they felt just as popular. It got messy fast to the point where H and I were going to elope.
  • calindicalindi member
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    It would be the opposite situation with us - my parents are paying, and my family is very close-knit for the most part (minus said aunt, which is why it's particularly noteworthy) so there will be 52 people invited from our family.  FI's family is not at ALL close - he hasn't even spoken to a single aunt, uncle, or cousin since he and I met 3 years ago.  But he's got 20 aunts & uncles on his Mom's side alone, and over 60 first cousins.  So it just doesn't work, especially as my parents are paying and don't want FI's family to have literally 4x as many guests.  Besides, my FI doesn't even know the names of all his first cousins!!!

    Honestly, FMIL can deal with FI.  It's his call - he has up to 50 seats, and they can fill them however they want.  FI has picked which ones he wants, so he can debate that with his Mom.

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  • edited December 2011
    Candi, if you have a close relationship with him maybe you talk to him as PP stated. He may be able to handle it better knowing it was YOUR decission. Tell him that you haven't spoken to her in over 6 years, if you tried to make contact with her in the past  let him know that too. Just tell him even though she is "blood" family that you have family that isn't blood that you KNOW will be there for you when needed the most, and right nnow you WANT those family members there not the ones who realy don;t care or have any interest in you for you one special day. Also let him know how importantant it is to YOU that he be there.

    Aded: My parents and I DON'T get along at all, but I knew how my daughter felt about them being there even though they have said some nasty stuff about her a few yrs. back. So I put that aside for HER, ask if he could do the same for you. Put aside that his daughter who HE loves won't be there but having HIM there will mean the world to you. He should be able to understand and seperate(I hope)
  • LuluP82LuluP82 member
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    edited December 2011
    Oh Lord, my FIL refused to send me his list for weeks. My SIL had to drag it out of him (H was at TBS and I refuse to bother him with this stuff). When FILfinally sent it to me, he literally sent me names and incomplete addresses (we're talking "Aunt Marie, who lives in Australia"...no that's not a joke). So I just said F-it, invited only the people on his list who were also on H's list and so I had addresses for (3 of FIL's siblings out of 5, none of the cousins, random aunts, etc). I wasn't about to ask him AGAIN for addresses. Especially for people who lived so far away whom I'd never met...odds of them coming were 0 anyway.

    The week of the wedding, FIL called H to ask him why Aunt Marie and everyone else wasn't invited. H said we invited everyone on his list. FIL came back again to me and asked me why I didn't invite them, they never got invitations. I said, of course I did. But probably when I sent an invite to Aunt Marie, Australia, it never made it. Dang the post office!

    People are crazy over weddings. Especially family. And don't even get me started on in-laws!
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