It is really pathetic all the women on these Wedding Boards who are NOT engaged and spend all their time on WEDDING boards sitting around planning weddings and complaining about not having a ring yet, how their men won't commit, how they hate the term Boyfriend since their relationship is so serious, and how just because they aren't married people don't take their commit as seriously. YOU ARE NOT ENGAGED OR MARRIED so your relationship is not as commited or serious as those who are ENGAGED or MARRIED!!!! It is so sad they spend so much time planning and talking about a wedding that might never happen, and if their boyfriends ever found out that these sad women were spending so much time planning and complaining these weddings will probably never even happen. These women are are just as pathetic as the women who get FAKE diamonds (moussanite, CZ, white sapphires) and try to pass them off as real diamonds or use the LAME excuse that they are being eco-friendly! Your man is just cheap!