OBAMA WON!

thejucheidea

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: OBAMA WON! : Next year. 
Posted by rdr716[/QUOTE]

Sounds about right.

RWS2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: OBAMA WON! : I didnt say I am not for human rights issues. I said I dont care what you personally choose. I feel those issues shouldnt be battled within the government but be personal choices and not regulated via the government. This is a very libertarian point of view. As to education I also didn't say I was against education. Not only am I a mother I'm a working student mother. I push my child to excel at learning. However pushing money into education rather than the issue at hand right now does not fix the issue right now with the economy. Education is a long run fix not a right now fix when it comes to job creation and sustainability. The entire education system needs to be revamped I agree money needs to be reallocated and moved from other places for this. The system we have is failing, and we do need to also focus on trade schools not just college. Both the whire collar and blue collar jobs need to be rethunk in this country. White collar is not the only way is all I am saying, and the way we educate should be rethought as educating for a standardized test is just not the best way. However as stated though this needs to be fixed it does not fix the issues we have right now, it fixes issues 10-20 years down the road.
Posted by dewingedpixie[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>In general, I think we would be better off with 3rd, and even 4th parties.  However, you can't say that you are all for human rights issues and that they should not be argued in the political sphere, then in the next breath say that Romney/Ryan should have been given their 4 years.  Their party is the one dragging social issues into the political sphere.  As for your original post, if I were not running late to work, I might take a moment to respond, but there is very little of what you posted that is based on fact.</div><div>
</div><div>Also, I would like to add: big fluffy hearts and hugs to Maryland, Maine and my own state of Minnesota for their respective votes on the Amendments relating to Gay Right issues.  I went to bed still waiting to find out how my state voted, but woke up to happy news!

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dewingedpixie

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: OBAMA WON! : 1. Choosing the candidate who is completely against even allowing you a personal choice is counterintuitive to your belief then. 2. Education needs to be reformed ASAP.  I've seen it with my own eyes.  If you don't educate children well starting now, it will never get fixed.  You want to talk about reforming the jobs?  That starts with education.  Look at Germany (and I know I talk about them a lot, but that's where my experience is).  In Germany, you have one of several tracks.  If you're not planning on going to college, you go to trade school.  If you decide later you'd rather go to college, as long as you get your Abitur, you can go.  A system like that, that doesn't expect everyone to go to college is more along the lines of what we need here.  It evens the playing field, more is taught, and everyone still gets a basic education without filling people with stuff they'll never use. 3. Rethunk is not a word.  It's rethought.  You apparently need to spend more time in school.
Posted by peekaboo2011[/QUOTE]

1. And choosing a candidate that was completely against my monetary/economical beliefs was even worse in my opinion. If my state hadnt been a battle ground I would not have voted the way I did period.
2. I 100% agree
3. None of us is perfect, and we could all probably use a few more years of school in some area, or 5 seconds of further proof reading. This kind of commentary is really just there to make you feel like you're superior. This is most of what is wrong with this country's politics and why nothing gets done. The constant bickering over issues that shouldn't be issues rather than agreeing and doing something about issues like number 2 is why we are failing. Lets all agree that what you do in your house and what I do in mine doesnt matter if it doesnt hurt anyone else, and get over it. Lets focus on what does matter the ecomony, the budget, the wreckless spending, the failing education, etc.

Swazzle

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: OBAMA WON! : 1. And choosing a candidate that was completely against my monetary/economical beliefs was even worse in my opinion. If my state hadnt been a battle ground I would not have voted the way I did period. 2. I 100% agree 3. None of us is perfect, and we could all probably use a few more years of school in some area, or 5 seconds of further proof reading. This kind of commentary is really just there to make you feel like you're superior. This is most of what is wrong with this country's politics and why nothing gets done. The constant bickering over issues that shouldn't be issues rather than agreeing and doing something about issues like number 2 is why we are failing. Lets all agree that what you do in your house and what I do in mine doesnt matter if it doesnt hurt anyone else, and get over it. Lets focus on what does matter the ecomony, the budget, the wreckless spending,<strong> the failing education,</strong> etc.
Posted by dewingedpixie[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>But I thought this could wait 10 years?

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cu97tiger

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: OBAMA WON! : 1. And choosing a candidate that was completely against my monetary/economical beliefs was even worse in my opinion. If my state hadnt been a battle ground I would not have voted the way I did period. 2. I 100% agree 3. None of us is perfect, and we could all probably use a few more years of school in some area, or 5 seconds of further proof reading. This kind of commentary is really just there to make you feel like you're superior. This is most of what is wrong with this country's politics and why nothing gets done. The constant bickering over issues that shouldn't be issues rather than agreeing and doing something about issues like number 2 is why we are failing. Lets all agree that what you do in your house and what I do in mine doesnt matter if it doesnt hurt anyone else, and get over it. <strong>Lets focus on what does matter the ecomony, the budget, the wreckless spending, the failing education, etc.</strong>
Posted by dewingedpixie[/QUOTE]

<div>You forgot 'my right to my body.' You cannot just brush off social issues because they are not important to YOU. They are clearly important to many other wom<strong>e</strong>n in the US. Instead of voting with their hearts, I like to think they voted with their uteri (plural of uterus?). Yes, we have some work to do on the financial side of things, but one of the fundamental American freedoms has been protected by the outcome of this election.</div><div>
</div><div>ETA: fixed my tense so peek doesn't call me out ;)</div>

steign

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: OBAMA WON! : <strong>AND Washington!!</strong>
Posted by ahstillwell[/QUOTE]

So proud of my state. I'm also happy Obama won!

beanbot2002

I'm gonna say it. Dewingedwhatevertheheckitis...your thinking is ass-backwards. We shouldn't fund education? What do you think is going to happen to jobs in 10 years after we've failed to support education??? It's gonna be worse, darlin. And then who are you gonna blame? Yourself? I doubt it. You'll firmly place blame on the candidate who did what YOU asked them to do without taking any of the responsibility yourself.
The very foundation of a stable job market begins with investing in education you dimwit.

GoldenPenguin

I voted for a third party, because I think we need to get rid of the Republican vs. Democrat mentality of this country.

With that being said, I am very happy Obama won, because I think Romney would have destroyed this country - financially, he had NO better plan. I also enjoy having control over my own body.

Also, I am fvucking PROUD to be a Mainer today. I am proud every day, but today, more than ever.

leia1979

I think you guys are projecting onto what Dewingedpixie wrote. I took it as job creation and solving national debt are top priorities to her right now. Those aren't bad things.

I didn't love either candidate, either. However, I had enough fear of Republican social policy to make me choose Obama. I also think we're a little guilty of women's rights fear mongering. While I have no doubt there are many politicians who would have no problems taking our rights away, the president is not a dictator, and I don't think Romney would have been able to accomplish those things, though he probably would have succeeded in overturning ACA.

The two party system is far too divisive, and we will never get anywhere in this country with the us vs them mentality.

And totally unrelated, Hummingbird, you should be grateful that you are covered by any insurance until you are 27. Most insurers used to stop covering dependents when they graduated college, so at age 24, I made $8 an hour and paid $75 a month for health insurance with zero prescription drug coverage. Could it be better? Sure, but it could also be a lot worse.

zipis1

C'mon now. Name calling and hostility do nothing but make the offending side look bad.

I'm glad Obama won. Romney (or rather, his party and where they're trying to move on issues) scared me. Education should always, always be a priority. It's kind of like ignoring a car problem because you don't feel it's a financial priority. You have to keep up with it now before it blows up and you really can't afford that, financially or functionally.

I believe both the current economy and education should be about equal on our priority list, while military spending needs to go way, WAY down. I don't remember specific numbers, but I know the amount we spend on defense is an inordinate percentage of the national budget, and even a small cut there would do more good than cutting the social programs Romney intended to cut. Add to this that he wanted to increase the amount we spend on defense and there alone he'd lost my vote. The fact no economist could make the numbers add up on his plan is kinda the cherry there.

I'm hoping now that "the other side" doesn't need to focus on keeping Obama from being elected again he'll be able to get more done. I think he did pretty good considering what he was handed and the attitude he was met with.

thejucheidea

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[QUOTE]I'm hoping now that "the other side" doesn't need to focus on keeping Obama from being elected again he'll be able to get more done. I think he did pretty good considering what he was handed and the attitude he was met with.
Posted by zipis1[/QUOTE]
For real.

[Deleted User]

I just wanted to say I completely agree 100% with everything dewingedpixie has said in this thread. She has eloquently expressed her OPINION. I also think Leia1979 has made some great points in her post. The president is not a dictator, so it boggles my mind that so many Obama supporters are only voting based on social issues...issues that any president would not be able to resolve on their own.

Truth is...this nation is DIVIDED. This is the reason nothing of real merit gets accomplished no matter who is in office. Whether you are for Obama or Romney, our country has some real issues to address. Do we have problems with our education system? Absolutely. Does simply hiring more teachers and adding grant/loan opportunities for students solve that? No. After being laid off from 3 different construction jobs in 4 years, FI graduated in May with a 2nd degree in the health care industry. That's all well and good until you hear he has not been able to get a job for the past 6 months. Believe me, he works his butt off looking ever day. What use is a good education if there is no OPPORTUNITY?

Yes we have a multitude of problems. Yes there are many different views on which problems we should address first. Bickering over which candidate you prefer when most people in this thread agree they'd prefer ditching our 2-party system anyway...a big waste of time and energy.

Elle1036

LOL... rethunk.  Hehehe.

RWS2011

<div>In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_obama-won?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:46cfdbdc-5854-4fdb-bf45-e26c2397e1c7Post:fc28a028-8427-4e11-96bd-2a18caacadca">Re: OBAMA WON!</a>:</div>[QUOTE]We have a president who throws money down the drain, cant balance a budget, cuts jobs rather than moving the defense jobs into another sector. <div>Posted by dewingedpixie[/QUOTE]</div><div>
</div><div>The growth in Obama's spending is actually slower than any president for the last 60 or so years.  Coming into the administration, there was already a sizable bailout passed by Bush, who also started 2 wars without actually ever including the cost into the budget,  Obama's budget actually reflects the cost of our activities in Afghanistan and Iraq.  Furthermore, Bush cut taxes at the same time he started 2 wars.  Obama wanted to reverse some of those cuts, but the republicans blocked his efforts.  Finally, he is scaling back spending on the military because we are extracting ourselves from two wars.  you expect military spending to increase during times of war and decrease after the wars have ended.</div><div>
</div><div>In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_obama-won?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:46cfdbdc-5854-4fdb-bf45-e26c2397e1c7Post:fc28a028-8427-4e11-96bd-2a18caacadca">Re: OBAMA WON!</a>:</div><div>[QUOTE]I do care about the growing issue with the government interfering with our lives and the socialist outlook that has not worked anywhere its been tried. Posted by dewingedpixie[/QUOTE]</div><div>
</div><div>What decade are we living in that there is still a "Red Scare?"  First of all, there has never actually been a socialist government.  Technically there has never been a communist one either.  If you are referring to social democratic policies like those in the Netherlands, France, and Canada there is no evidence that they have failed or resulted in the downfall of their economy.</div><div>
</div><div>In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_obama-won?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:46cfdbdc-5854-4fdb-bf45-e26c2397e1c7Post:fc28a028-8427-4e11-96bd-2a18caacadca">Re: OBAMA WON!</a>:</div><div>[QUOTE]I do care about the fact that we are a broke nation with no answers other than to tax the livelihood out of our people because they wont stop spending.  Posted by dewingedpixie[/QUOTE]</div><div>
</div><div>Obama has not tried to tax the livelihood out of anyone, merely reverse one of the largest tax cuts given to the wealthiest Americans in decades.  A move that helped to deplete the projected budget surplus left by the last democratic President.</div><div>
</div><div>In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_obama-won?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:46cfdbdc-5854-4fdb-bf45-e26c2397e1c7Post:fc28a028-8427-4e11-96bd-2a18caacadca">Re: OBAMA WON!</a>:</div><div>[QUOTE]As someone who has seen many people not thrive during this administration but lose their jobs, homes, etc I see the abounding issues in our nation. I see a nation that needs to focus inward but not in a socialist manner since that wont work.  Posted by dewingedpixie[/QUOTE]</div><div>
</div><div>Jobs were in a free fall when Obama took office and foreclosures were picking up steam.  All of this is the result of deregulation of the financial sector which both democrats and republicans have been guilty of.  No-one stepping in at that time could have turned the economy around in a matter of months.  Couple that with the looming European crisis and it resulted in lower exports and an even more sluggish economy.</div><div>
</div><div>In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_obama-won?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:46cfdbdc-5854-4fdb-bf45-e26c2397e1c7Post:fc28a028-8427-4e11-96bd-2a18caacadca">Re: OBAMA WON!</a>:</div><div>[QUOTE]Education is great and will help us 10 years down the road but not right now. We need to focus on that blue collar jobs and trade industries matter.  Posted by dewingedpixie[/QUOTE]</div><div>
</div><div>Obama has done both, restoring many blue collar jobs in the auto industry and trying to bring the US back into the game of renewable energy, among other examples.</div><div> </div><div>Ultimately, I have seen democrats try to compromise and many republicans (especially Tea Party) pride themselves on refusing to cooperate.  Maybe this situation could be improved by another party or two, but there has yet to be another party with enough popular support that varies significantly enough from the attitudes and approaches of the existing parties, so I guess we'll just have to see about that...</div>

thejucheidea

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[QUOTE]Maybe this situation could be improved by another party or two, but there has yet to be another party with enough popular support that varies significantly enough from the attitudes and approaches of the existing parties, so I guess we'll just have to see about that...
Posted by RWS2011[/QUOTE]

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RWS2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: OBAMA WON! :
Posted by ahstillwell[/QUOTE]

<div>Hahaha!  I can't tell whether or not you are making fun of me, but either way you made me laugh.</div><div>
</div><div>Also, this:</div><div>
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cu97tiger

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[QUOTE]I just wanted to say I completely agree 100% with everything dewingedpixie has said in this thread. She has eloquently expressed her OPINION. I also think Leia1979 has made some great points in her post. <strong>The president is not a dictator, so it boggles my mind that so many Obama supporters are only voting based on social issues...issues that any president would not be able to resolve on their own. </strong>
Posted by allusive007[/QUOTE]

<div>It boggles my mind that you don't understand why I guard the rights to my own body so fiercely. It wouldn't scare you AT ALL to have a President and Vice President that think so little of women's rights? It wouldn't worry you to have a party in power where time after time (I believe we counted four in this election alone?) the members of that party have shown to think so little of women? To the Republican party, I am a vessel to have babies, whether that baby was conceived through rape or not. If I chose to work, they'd try to 'let me' get off early so I could go home and make dinner for my husband and kids. Never mind that maybe HE should get off work early to make dinner for ME and the kids.</div><div>
</div><div>If you look at the broad economic numbers... i.e. more than just the last four years, we are on the upswing. The recession was bad. A lot of things went into causing it, and they weren't Republican OR Democrat. But it's getting better. And to say it's not, is to willfully ignore plain facts.</div><div>
</div><div>I have no problem with those that feel that the economic issues we are facing right now are more important than the social ones, and having them vote that way. What I DO have a problem with is not getting the same respect in return. I</div>

thejucheidea

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: OBAMA WON! : Hahaha!  I can't tell whether or not you are making fun of me, but either way you made me laugh. Also, this:
Posted by RWS2011[/QUOTE]
Your response was amazing :D!!

RWS2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: OBAMA WON! : Your response was amazing :D!!
Posted by ahstillwell[/QUOTE]

<div>Yay!  Thanks!  With Simon, you never know.  ;)</div>

beanbot2002

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: OBAMA WON! : The growth in Obama's spending is actually slower than any president for the last 60 or so years.  Coming into the administration, there was already a sizable bailout passed by Bush, who also started 2 wars without actually ever including the cost into the budget,  Obama's budget actually reflects the cost of our activities in Afghanistan and Iraq.  Furthermore, Bush cut taxes at the same time he started 2 wars.  Obama wanted to reverse some of those cuts, but the republicans blocked his efforts.  Finally, he is scaling back spending on the military because we are extracting ourselves from two wars.  you expect military spending to increase during times of war and decrease after the wars have ended. In Response to  Re: OBAMA WON! : What decade are we living in that there is still a "Red Scare?"  First of all, there has never actually been a socialist government.  Technically there has never been a communist one either.  If you are referring to social democratic policies like those in the Netherlands, France, and Canada there is no evidence that they have failed or resulted in the downfall of their economy. In Response to  Re: OBAMA WON! : Obama has not tried to tax the livelihood out of anyone, merely reverse one of the largest tax cuts given to the wealthiest Americans in decades.  A move that helped to deplete the projected budget surplus left by the last democratic President. In Response to  Re: OBAMA WON! : Jobs were in a free fall when Obama took office and foreclosures were picking up steam.  All of this is the result of deregulation of the financial sector which both democrats and republicans have been guilty of.  No-one stepping in at that time could have turned the economy around in a matter of months.  Couple that with the looming European crisis and it resulted in lower exports and an even more sluggish economy. In Response to  Re: OBAMA WON! : Obama has done both, restoring many blue collar jobs in the auto industry and trying to bring the US back into the game of renewable energy, among other examples.   Ultimately, I have seen democrats try to compromise and many republicans (especially Tea Party) pride themselves on refusing to cooperate.  Maybe this situation could be improved by another party or two, but there has yet to be another party with enough popular support that varies significantly enough from the attitudes and approaches of the existing parties, so I guess we'll just have to see about that...
Posted by RWS2011[/QUOTE]

You are mother freaking eloquent and my latest hero.

RWS2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: OBAMA WON! : You are mother freaking eloquent and my latest hero.
Posted by beanbot2002[/QUOTE]

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</div><div>Haha!  Well, thank you.  I just get tired of unsubstantiated assertions and a sort of selective amnesia about the historical events and choices that have led to our present day situation.  Every now and then, I feel I must respond to it.</div>

Elle1036

RWS: