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Well, Andrew and I discussed some weddings plans this morning over breakfast. We figured out what we could afford and are going to continue to move forward from there.  

We aren't planning on getting married until the Autumn of 2013, because next Autumn we will be going to Spain- and we also know SO many other people getting married next year, such as Andrew's best friend- we want to make sure our plans don't inhibit us from going to other important weddings next year. And of course- this will give us a good chuck of time to save.

We will both start transferring $225 a month into a savings account.

Andrew is interested in the following venue:
http://www.roaringcamp.com/wedding

These pictures are from a photographer that I like: 

All wedding guests are taken up in a train: 


 

Through the redwoods- to a cathedral of trees- under which you exchange vows: 


You then return to a rustic event hall: 


We need to call them about availability and also their menu selection, which Andrew just this is ridiculously awful.

We've decided that food and wine are important to us...and want to try to make our wedding as memorable as possible for the guests (how often do you remember the table settings/centerpieces at weddings?).

The day before the wedding we'll take close family and friends wine tasting in the Santa Cruz Mountains:


 

And the following day, people could decide to go to the beach boardwalk: 


Any thoughts, my lovely ladies? And what did you think of the shots taken by that photographer?
http://www.goodeyeblog.com/2011/06/jared-jasmine-roaring-camp-wedding-photography-felton/


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    edited December 2011
    I think that if you really do plan on waiting almost 2 years, you should slow your roll on planning.  Save money.  Maybe reserve a venue.  Besides that, you don't need to do anything for at least a year. 
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_beginnings-of-plan?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:4fc9ed31-3e7c-421b-8eaf-d9fbef253d6dPost:6228accb-f636-49df-b9cc-53ea5e126039">The Beginnings of a Plan...</a>:
    [QUOTE]We've decided that food and wine are important to us...and want to try to make our wedding as memorable as possible for the guests (how often do you remember the table settings/centerpieces at weddings?).
    Posted by lunarsongbird[/QUOTE]

    What does this mean?

    I guess I feel like most people want their guests to remember their wedding and do things to make it special.  The best advice I ever got was that nobody is as excited about your wedding as you are.  I would focus on making the wedding a good experience for your guests, but stay away from the whole 'I have to have a wedding that my guests remember' mentality.  There is no point to it. 
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_beginnings-of-plan?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:4fc9ed31-3e7c-421b-8eaf-d9fbef253d6dPost:846c4409-3887-44c2-93b3-e5f628e79758">Re: The Beginnings of a Plan...</a>:
    [QUOTE]I think that if you really do plan on waiting almost 2 years, you should slow your roll on planning.  Save money.  Maybe reserve a venue.  Besides that, you don't need to do anything for at least a year. 
    Posted by TheMutleys[/QUOTE]

    We weren't planning on looking at anything else at this point. We just needed to have an idea of what we were saving for- and how much we needed to save.

    We're focusing on our house for now, but I just thought some of the ladies on here would like to know what Andrew and I had on our minds.
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    edited December 2011
    It sounds like you and Andrew have come to a good agreement on the wedding planning and a budget. That's the hardest part... untill the guest list. God I don't want to go through that again. lol

    I think that venue looks very cool and from what I know about you and Andrew from here and FB, it seems perfect for you guys! :) I'd definitely remember a train ride wedding!

    ETA: Also, love the pics! I'd check with them about their booking. Some very good photographer in this area book up fast. So, 18 months isn't too soon to book them.


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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_beginnings-of-plan?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:4fc9ed31-3e7c-421b-8eaf-d9fbef253d6dPost:b7374665-95dd-4fa3-afb9-2c03053000b2">Re: The Beginnings of a Plan...</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to The Beginnings of a Plan... : What does this mean? I guess I feel like most people want their guests to remember their wedding and do things to make it special.  The best advice I ever got was that nobody is as excited about your wedding as you are.  I would focus on making the wedding a good experience for your guests, but stay away from the whole 'I have to have a wedding that my guests remember' mentality.  There is no point to it. 
    Posted by TheMutleys[/QUOTE]

    It means I would rather spend less money on centerpieces and put it towards things that guests would enjoy and remember more, such as better wine and cheese? Sometimes it feels like I'm perpetually disappointing you, Mutley.

    I just got engaged- and all I wanted to do was share some very basic, high-level ideas.

    And I do think there is a point to the "wedding that my guests remember" mentality. Andrew and I feel like our wedding is really for the special people in our life that have supported us in life- and will continue to support us in our life together. It's a celebration of how much they mean to us- and we would like it to be memorable/special for them. What's wrong with that mentality?
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    edited December 2011
    I must have missed your announcement, but CONGRATS on getting engaged. It's good that you guys discussed a plan. And definitely good you guys are saving. Other than that, yeah I agree with Mutley. Go ahead and book your venue if you both fall in love with it (if you have the deposit. Don't most places require like 50% up front? I dunno), and enjoy the next year. 

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    edited December 2011
    That venue looks really pretty.  I'd find out their costs, availability, your guest list, etc and see if they'll 'hold' the date for you w/o a contract (as in give you first right of refusal if anyone else is interested in your date - most places don't do this, but since you are so far out, it couldn't hurt to ask).  I say this because since you just barely decided on a budget/savings plan, I wouldn't rush to put a deposit quite yet because if something happens that you can't save as much each month, you don't want to end up not being able to pay for everything, KWIM?


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    edited December 2011

    How cool for your geusts to be taken up to your wedding in a train! I think that in and of itself would be super memorable. I understand what you mean about having good food though. Everyone I talk to who has been to a wedding recently talks at length about the food they had and not so much about little details.

    I don't know how much advance notice you need to book the photographer and other things but CCO seems to have good advice. If you love the venue, I agree with Mutley that you should go ahead and book it now. The events you have planned for your guests are a nice touch, maybe you could DIY some cute programs (I keep stuff like that). Congratulations Smile

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    edited December 2011
    I think a train ride at a wedding would be FANTASTIC and super memorable!!  BF and I go to weddings like it's our job and I've never been to one with train involved.  I can definitely say that unique touches like that always impress us, help us have a good time, and yes, make the wedding individual and memorable. 

    Also, I know exactly what you mean about wanting to have really good food.  I've had some excellent food at weddings and it always stands out.  I've also had some not-so-great food at weddings.  That, sadly, also stands out.  You can get creative (especially with a long planning period!!) with diy centerpieces and other decorations - just check out pinterest for lots and LOTS of ideas. 

    As for the photographer . . . what kind of style do you like?  The pics I saw from the one posted are good but fairly standard.  I tend to like something a little different though and a bit more creative - but that's just me.  The best photographers will definitely book early so starting now, if you have a date, is not too early.  Also, make sure you get along with the photographer.  That person will be involved in almost every aspect of your day so you want to make sure you and FI both feel comfortble with them!
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    edited December 2011
    I can see where Mutley is coming from.  I initially thought that you were turning into one of the girls from The Knot 911 app, like "OMG my wedding has to be the BEST wedding ever and everyone needs to remember it for being the best EVER and it will have so many elements to it that are so memorable" craziness (if you haven't downloaded that app, don't do it).  For me, it was just a misunderstanding on your wording.  I didn't realize that you were saying you'd rather do something special with your guests than have centerpieces.  I think that is a great idea for you, plus your venue will be decoration enough. 

    Congrats on getting on the planning wagon! Once you get your venue, wedding planning will be so much fun.  Getting the venue was the big stressful part for me! Now that I have it I feel so free to finally start planning everything else.  I hope you guys can get that venue, it's gorgeous!
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    edited December 2011

    I really love it Lunar!  Felton is sooo beautiful!  Really truly a gorgeous place.  I also love that last shot by the photographer.  I think is it so cool how you want your guests to have a great time.  I would take your time on photographers as you have plenty of time. 

    I really did see Lunar as saying that she wanted her wedding to be the best ever… I think that is just who Lunar is she wants people to love her wedding and enjoy being there.  *shrugs* I don’t see anything wrong with that; in some ways doesn’t everyone want their guests to enjoy themselves? 

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    Oh- bummer...Sorry my wording is off- I'm just feeling a bit off in general today.  I would hope that most of the ladiies that know me on here would know that I  just don't have it in me to become a Knot 911 bride.

    I just want it to be a very cool, relaxed event where people can enjoy good food, delicious wine, and fantastic conversation. We want out guests to feel special, because they are so special to us. It's really a guest focused event- versus an "our day" thing.

    Does that make sense?
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    I totally understand what you mean Lunar.  The venue looks beautiful and it sounds like you have some great ideas.  I like the idea of focusing on your guests too.  The last wedding I went to (a family member) it seemed to be all about them.  Yeah, its their wedding day, but they didn't even come around to say hi at the tables or anything.  I barely got to say two words to them.  
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_beginnings-of-plan?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:4fc9ed31-3e7c-421b-8eaf-d9fbef253d6dPost:5186f2a1-7584-48a9-a8f7-ef899f1f502a">Re: The Beginnings of a Plan...</a>:
    [QUOTE]It sounds like you and Andrew have come to a good agreement on the wedding planning and a budget. That's the hardest part... untill the guest list. God I don't want to go through that again. lol I think that venue looks very cool and from what I know about you and Andrew from here and FB, it seems perfect for you guys! :) I'd definitely remember a train ride wedding! ETA: Also, love the pics! I'd check with them about their booking. Some very good photographer in this area book up fast. So, 18 months isn't too soon to book them. <strong>FOR THOSE OF YOU ABOUT TO SAY I MUST PREPLAN  TO KNOW ALL THIS, I WAS ENGAGED ONCE BEFORE AND I AM AN EVENT PLANNER.
    </strong>Posted by CCO2012[/QUOTE]

    You're silly. Anyone who would jump to that conclusion about you would have to be a bigtime newb on this board (even more than me) <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-tongue-out.gif" border="0" alt="Tongue out" title="Tongue out" />
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    edited December 2011
    wow a train now that would be something memorable!

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    I think that venue and plan sounds FANTASTIC and would like to know what I need to do between todaz and the autumn of 2013 to get invited to this kick a$$ wedding. Kthxbai
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_beginnings-of-plan?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:4fc9ed31-3e7c-421b-8eaf-d9fbef253d6dPost:6228accb-f636-49df-b9cc-53ea5e126039">The Beginnings of a Plan...</a>:
    [QUOTE]Well, Andrew and I discussed some weddings plans this morning over breakfast. We figured out what we could afford and are going to continue to move forward from there.   We aren't planning on getting married until the Autumn of 2013, because next Autumn we will be going to Spain- and we also know SO many other people getting married next year, such as Andrew's best friend- we want to make sure our plans don't inhibit us from going to other important weddings next year. And of course- this will give us a good chuck of time to save. We will both start transferring $225 a month into a savings account. Andrew is interested in the following venue: <a href="http://www.roaringcamp.com/wedding" rel="nofollow">http://www.roaringcamp.com/wedding</a> These pictures are from a photographer that I like:  All wedding guests are taken up in a train:    Through the redwoods- to a cathedral of trees- under which you exchange vows:  You then return to a rustic event hall:  We need to call them about availability and also their menu selection, which Andrew just this is ridiculously awful. We've decided that food and wine are important to us...and want to try to make our wedding as memorable as possible for the guests (how often do you remember the table settings/centerpieces at weddings?). The day before the wedding we'll take close family and friends wine tasting in the Santa Cruz Mountains:   And the following day, people could decide to go to the beach boardwalk:  Any thoughts, my lovely ladies? And what did you think of the shots taken by that photographer? <a href="http://www.goodeyeblog.com/2011/06/jared-jasmine-roaring-camp-wedding-photography-felton/" rel="nofollow">http://www.goodeyeblog.com/2011/06/jared-jasmine-roaring-camp-wedding-photography-felton/</a>
    Posted by lunarsongbird[/QUOTE]

    <div>All of your plans sound amazing. And I love the venue that you are looking at, looks like a dream. I disagree that you should slow your planning down. You have to know what you are getting yourself into so that you can figure out your budget and start saving. Not only that but who isn't excited about planning once they are engaged? I know I was and I still am. There is nothing wrong with that. Do whatever you like and have fun with it.</div><div>
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    </div><div>Your wedding is going to be great... (I wish I was invited) lol</div>
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    edited December 2011
    Yaga- That's so interesting! And I bet a place that needs a minimum is pretty swanky! What fun!
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    Holy cow...I don't even know 175 people! LOL!
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_beginnings-of-plan?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:4fc9ed31-3e7c-421b-8eaf-d9fbef253d6dPost:4a449a20-a36b-4fac-8dd5-b9e4ca731e6c">Re: The Beginnings of a Plan...</a>:
    [QUOTE]Oh- bummer...Sorry my wording is off- I'm just feeling a bit off in general today.  I would hope that most of the ladiies that know me on here would know that I  just don't have it in me to become a Knot 911 bride. I just want it to be a very cool, relaxed event where people can enjoy good food, delicious wine, and fantastic conversation. We want out guests to feel special, because they are so special to us. It's really a guest focused event- versus an "our day" thing. Does that make sense?
    Posted by lunarsongbird[/QUOTE]

    Based on your personality from how you regularly post, I think everyone knows you are not a Knot911 bride.  It was just a little shocking to read from the wording that was a little tricky on the brains.

    It's also not too early to start planning.  I have most of the groundplans for all of my decor and invites.  We even went to Mens Warehouse today, even though it's way to early according to all wedding checklists.  It was awesome how happy FI was looking at all the tux options and vest colors.  So cute!  It was almost like wedding dress shopping all over again, but instead of me shopping for a dress it was him shopping for a tux.
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    wow!! what a GORGEOUS venue!!! and like PP have said, it would be SO memorable to be taken on a train up to the event!! how exciting!!

    I would be just as excited as you! you're newly engaged and starting to seriously plan ideas of what you want in your wedding!! stay excited, be happy!! :)

    (was that too many exclamation points? LOL)
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_beginnings-of-plan?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:4fc9ed31-3e7c-421b-8eaf-d9fbef253d6dPost:942eaee7-c7eb-4e3a-a79f-cd26c3147fa1">Re: The Beginnings of a Plan...</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The Beginnings of a Plan... : It means I would rather spend less money on centerpieces and put it towards things that guests would enjoy and remember more, such as better wine and cheese? <strong>Sometimes it feels like I'm perpetually disappointing you, Mutley. </strong>

    I just got engaged- and all I wanted to do was share some very basic, high-level ideas.

    And I do think there is a point to the "wedding that my guests remember" mentality. Andrew and I feel like our wedding is really for the special people in our life that have supported us in life- and will continue to support us in our life together. It's a celebration of how much they mean to us- and we would like it to be memorable/special for them. What's wrong with that mentality?
    Posted by lunarsongbird[/QUOTE]

    Perpetually disappointing?  I honestly don't know you or care about you enough for you to disappoint me.  And wtf is a 'high-level idea? 

    Do you rub me the wrong way?  Definitely.  I don't get you or people like you.  Everything is not some big existential thing.  There are all types of people in this world.  Enh, I don't need to get all of them.

    Also, that is NOT how your OP read.  I've read way too many 'My wedding is going to be the most memorable wedding of all time' posts and yours definitely came off that way. 

    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_beginnings-of-plan?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:4fc9ed31-3e7c-421b-8eaf-d9fbef253d6dPost:6cf61ec1-6138-4ae1-9e42-3bfa4828c2d6">Re: The Beginnings of a Plan...</a>:
    [QUOTE]I don't know how much advance notice you need to book the photographer and other things but CCO seems to have good advice. If you love the venue, <strong>I agree with Mutley that you should go ahead and book it now.</strong> The events you have planned for your guests are a nice touch, maybe you could DIY some cute programs (I keep stuff like that). Congratulations
    Posted by bawidget[/QUOTE]

    Not what I said at all. 

    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_beginnings-of-plan?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:4fc9ed31-3e7c-421b-8eaf-d9fbef253d6dPost:eee38f1e-80ac-4ce6-93a1-5506096a87d0">Re: The Beginnings of a Plan...</a>:
    [QUOTE]I may be misinterpreting (it's hard to tell tone through text) but Mutley I felt like you responded a bit harshly.  It's not like Lunar told us she just picked her wedding party?  She just got engaged and she and her fiance are excited to start planning.  I don't understand the problem.  I totally get telling unengaged ladies not to preplan, but aren't you allowed to make plans, discuss ideas, and be excited once you are engaged?
    Posted by polo1425[/QUOTE]


    <a href="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/images/store/9/3/3996ee27-8b7a-4497-9349-413a567cfcf9.large.gif" title="Click to view a larger photo" onclick="return gSiteLife.LoadForumPage('ForumImage', 'plckPhotoId', '3996ee27-8b7a-4497-9349-413a567cfcf9', 'plckRedirectUrl', gSiteLife.EscapeValue(window.location.href));" class="PhotoLink"> <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/images/store/9/3/3996ee27-8b7a-4497-9349-413a567cfcf9.medium.gif" alt="" /></a>  I never said don't discuss ideas or don't get excited.  When you are having a 2 year engagement, it is best to not get too far ahead in planning too early.  I've been around long enough to know that rule.  People can change there minds.  Financial situations can change.  There is a lot of unknowns.  Sorry, but it's the truth.  It is also better to determine your budget and then figure out what you can have.  Also, considering that Lunar was worried about contributing enough to their regular monthly bills, I'd hate to have the stress of having to contribute a certain amount to a wedding fund to have a specific wedding because I'd signed contracts.  Doesn't sound stress free to me. 

    I don't really care if someone has been around for a bit or has posted a ton.  I am still going to share my opinion.  I don't discriminate how I post.  Never have, never will.  I don't give an 'eff if it comes off as harsh. 
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    lunarsongbirdlunarsongbird member
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    edited December 2011
    High Level= Broad Overview, Not Detailed

    And perhaps I feel like I'm disappointing you, because as I rub you the wrong way- you have something critical to say everytime you post on any of my threads. If I annoy you...and you "don't get people like me"- why don't you just stay away from my threads?
     
    And what the hell does an existential view point mean? That I think everything is important in life?

    Damn Straight, I Do. After coming close to losing many loved ones in my life- I want things in my life to be special and important. I cherish the little moments and the details.

    Even so- who the hell are you to say if "everything is not some big existential thing?"
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    I know I'm a little late in the game, but Lunar, I think you're on to a great track with everything. The train idea is awesome, and the venue is totally my style.
    Obviously not everyone is going to agree with how you're going about your planning, but just do what works for you and FI..that's what matters!
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