this is the code for the render ad
Not Engaged Yet

First hellos!

I am editing my intro post, as it has apparently taken a direction that was not intended and I also didn't want some personal information out there that I originally volunteered.

So keeping it short and sweet in saying hello, I thank the girls who've welcomed me and originally encouraged me to introduce myself. Perhaps I'll be seeing more of you on the boards.
«1

Re: First hellos!

  • bethsmilesbethsmiles member
    10000 Comments Sixth Anniversary 500 Love Its First Answer
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:4e035533-bf47-43e9-9c76-ac5e22f247f3">First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]
    <strong>Have any of you gals tried on wedding dresses while not engaged yet?</strong> A family friend owns a bridal shop and while visiting her she asked if I wanted to try a couple dresses on. I did, and while I thought I'd feel so excited, I sort of just felt like an imposter and that's not how I want to feel while trying on a wedding dress.  Anyway, I wanted to pop in and say hello. In the meantime I'll try to spruce up my sparse profile and subsequent online presence. :) Summerhaven
    Posted by Summerhaven[/QUOTE]

    If you've really lurked you know what the answer to this is. DO NOT TRY ON DRESSES OR PLAN YOUR WEDDING BEFORE YOU ARE ENGAGED! You felt like an imposter because you aren't engaged and you don't need a wedding dress. You just took away from an experience you could've had while you were engaged and now you can't get that back.


  • SKP82SKP82 member
    2500 Comments Second Anniversary Combo Breaker
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:4e035533-bf47-43e9-9c76-ac5e22f247f3">First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]<strong>Have any of you gals tried on wedding dresses while not engaged yet?</strong>A family friend owns a bridal shop and while visiting her she asked if I wanted to try a couple dresses on. I did, and while I thought I'd feel so excited, I sort of just felt like an imposter and that's not how I want to feel while trying on a wedding dress.  Anyway, I wanted to pop in and say hello. In the meantime I'll try to spruce up my sparse profile and subsequent online presence. :) Summerhaven
    Posted by Summerhaven[/QUOTE]

    Nooooo!  And this is NOT encouraged here.  I'm glad you had the feelings you did about it.  We do not encourage any type of wedding planning until you are actually engaged. 
    IMG_6364
    "Life is not orderly. No matter how we try to make life so, right in the middle of it we die, lose a leg, fall in love, drop a jar of applesauce." - Natalie Goldberg
  • SKP82SKP82 member
    2500 Comments Second Anniversary Combo Breaker
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:5e7e55ae-bc0d-43f2-8ad1-8708abba436b">Re: First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to First hellos! : If you've really lurked you know what the answer to this is. DO NOT TRY ON DRESSES OR PLAN YOUR WEDDING BEFORE YOU ARE ENGAGED! You felt like an imposter because you aren't engaged and you don't need a wedding dress. You just took away from an experience you could've had while you were engaged and now you can't get that back.
    Posted by bethsmiles[/QUOTE]

    I completely agree.
    IMG_6364
    "Life is not orderly. No matter how we try to make life so, right in the middle of it we die, lose a leg, fall in love, drop a jar of applesauce." - Natalie Goldberg
  • edited December 2011
    Everyone beat me to it. Welcome though.  I wouldn't suggest trying on dressing or any planning for that matter.

    Anniversary

  • edited December 2011
    ah, way to start, maybe you shouldn't have have said anything about the wedding dress, teehee.

    but welcome! I am very new here too, so I know exactly how you feel! I am trying to get to know people on here because it's nice to talk to people who are kind of dealing with the same stuff we are, and it seems to me like lots of good stuff happens here and I am excited to be a part of it : ) so I am looking forward to getting to know you! (and the rest of you girlies as well!)
  • SummerhavenSummerhaven member
    First Comment
    edited December 2011
    Yeah, I just did it since I was at the family friend's shop and I was comfortable there. I don't think I'll feel like less of a bride when I am engaged and try on dresses, but I just can't take planning like that seriously until then.
  • SKP82SKP82 member
    2500 Comments Second Anniversary Combo Breaker
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:d2872958-134b-45d8-af60-14272b0121cb">Re: First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]ah, way to start, maybe you shouldn't have have said anything about the wedding dress, teehee. but welcome! I am very new here too, so I know exactly how you feel! I am trying to get to know people on here because it's nice to talk to people who are kind of dealing with the same stuff we are, and <strong>it seems to me like lots of good stuff happens here </strong>and I am excited to be a part of it : ) so I am looking forward to getting to know you! (and the rest of you girlies as well!)
    Posted by danimcg[/QUOTE]

    Damn straight it does!  <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" />


    <a href="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/images/store/9/1/7957b710-f65e-4d82-a1ed-70ccd7f55cac.large.jpg" title="Click to view a larger photo" onclick="return gSiteLife.LoadForumPage('ForumImage', 'plckPhotoId', '7957b710-f65e-4d82-a1ed-70ccd7f55cac', 'plckRedirectUrl', gSiteLife.EscapeValue(window.location.href));" class="PhotoLink"><img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/images/store/9/1/7957b710-f65e-4d82-a1ed-70ccd7f55cac.medium.jpg" alt="" /></a>
    IMG_6364
    "Life is not orderly. No matter how we try to make life so, right in the middle of it we die, lose a leg, fall in love, drop a jar of applesauce." - Natalie Goldberg
  • csousa1csousa1 member
    Knottie Warrior 1000 Comments 250 Love Its Name Dropper
    edited December 2011
    HAHAHA SKP I love that LOLcat!!!!
  • edited December 2011
    Clearly you didn't lurk long or well Ms. BF-and-I-talked-extensively-about-wedding-plans-and-picked-a-date. 

    You can't talk planning "like that" or any other planning seriously, therefore, you should just not do it. 

    Daisypath Wedding tickers
  • bethsmilesbethsmiles member
    10000 Comments Sixth Anniversary 500 Love Its First Answer
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:0905d44e-9551-4266-8d63-af09ae3d0f09">Re: First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]Clearly you didn't lurk long or well Ms. BF-and-I-talked-extensively-about-wedding-plans-and-picked-a-date.  You can't talk planning "like that" or any other planning seriously, therefore, you should just not do it. 
    Posted by SeaTea02[/QUOTE]

    I love you SeaTea


  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:0905d44e-9551-4266-8d63-af09ae3d0f09">Re: First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]Clearly you didn't lurk long or well Ms. BF-and-I-talked-extensively-about-wedding-plans-and-picked-a-date.  <strong>You can't talk planning "like that" or any other planning seriously, therefore, you should just not do it. 
    </strong>Posted by SeaTea02[/QUOTE]

    Go tell my BF that! Please! lol. I hate talking about stuff with him and he wants to... shut up and get your butt in gear if you want to start planning!!

    sorry... mini vent.
  • SummerhavenSummerhaven member
    First Comment
    edited December 2011

    I'm not sure how getting ideas and plans in order before we're officially engaged is wrong? He's only waiting to propose until after we pick out the ring, if that gives you a better idea. I wasn't planning on outlining my the whole story of our plans or my relationship with him; all I was doing was introducing myself on here and hoping for a welcome or two before my intro thread (hopefully) fades away quickly.

  • edited December 2011
    Summer, take it from one who has been there.  You are either engaged, or you are pre-planning and shouldn't be.  I came on saying the same thing.  We had a date, we had a timeline, we just hadn't gone through the official proposal.  It's easy to get swept up in the emotions and excitement of it almost being real.
    Bottom line - until you can go into public together and introduce him, and he you, as a FI, you aren't engaged and it's just pre-planning.  Better to admit it early on here than to fight it because you won't convince anyone that it's OK to think ahead if you aren't engaged.
    Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end... Wedding Countdown Ticker
  • bethsmilesbethsmiles member
    10000 Comments Sixth Anniversary 500 Love Its First Answer
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:6c0aa4fa-ebb0-4f41-b99e-99dd81c1ad27">Re: First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]I'm not sure how getting ideas and plans in order before we're officially engaged is wrong? He's only waiting to propose until after we pick out the ring, if that gives you a better idea. I wasn't planning on outlining my the whole story of our plans or my relationship with him; all I was doing was introducing myself on here and hoping for a welcome or two before my intro thread (hopefully) fades away quickly.
    Posted by Summerhaven[/QUOTE]

    There is no way you lurked.


  • SummerhavenSummerhaven member
    First Comment
    edited December 2011
    Oh, I totally know it's pre-planning. I'm sure as heck not going to be making appointments with dress shops or banquet halls or whatnot until everything is official. We've just been figuring out financial logistics and similar issues that we want to try to get a better grasp of now before we really need to plan and make payments.
  • edited December 2011

    well, just no more trying on dresses i guess : ) IMO, if you are just making sure you've got all your ducks in a row financially then that's fine, and totally necessary. Just don't go too far or you run the risk of driving yourself totally nuts. I think that is the general concensus here, and I am sure you are finding that out : )

  • AudgiePodgeAudgiePodge member
    2500 Comments Second Anniversary 5 Love Its Combo Breaker
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:8ce6a64a-5102-454d-9152-e9e9777d88d7">Re: First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]Oh, I totally know it's pre-planning. I'm sure as heck not going to be making appointments with dress shops or banquet halls or whatnot until everything is official. We've<strong> just been figuring out financial logistics and similar issues that we want to try to get a better grasp of now before we really need to plan and make payments.</strong>
    Posted by Summerhaven[/QUOTE]

    <div>That's what the engagement is for.</div>
    I'm not good at feelings.

    image
  • SummerhavenSummerhaven member
    First Comment
    edited December 2011
    To PPs: Nooo, I definitely don't consider myself engaged. But regardless of that, I don't see anything wrong with discussing finances and making sure we're on the same page with finances that are either wedding related or not when it comes to our future.
  • edited December 2011
    I'm glad to hear that you ladies feel that way about trying on wedding dresses. I thought maybe I was weird and wanted the first time I tried one on was when I was engaged and completely in love and actually trying to buy one. I think that is one of the things I am looking forward to most in planning!
    5/27/12
    image
  • SKP82SKP82 member
    2500 Comments Second Anniversary Combo Breaker
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:8ce6a64a-5102-454d-9152-e9e9777d88d7">Re: First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]Oh, I totally know it's pre-planning. I'm sure as heck not going to be making appointments with dress shops or banquet halls or whatnot until everything is official. We've just been figuring out financial logistics and similar issues that we want to try to get a better grasp of now before we really need to plan and make payments.
    Posted by Summerhaven[/QUOTE]

    Whaaaaatt?? 

    If you had lurked, you would know that pre-planning is not okay.  And you would know that "figuring out financial logistics and similar issues" would be considered pre-planning.


    <a href="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/images/store/4/14/54893c07-607b-4e2c-bea0-d98de3575f42.large.jpg" title="Click to view a larger photo" onclick="return gSiteLife.LoadForumPage('ForumImage', 'plckPhotoId', '54893c07-607b-4e2c-bea0-d98de3575f42', 'plckRedirectUrl', gSiteLife.EscapeValue(window.location.href));" class="PhotoLink"><img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/images/store/4/14/54893c07-607b-4e2c-bea0-d98de3575f42.medium.jpg" alt="" /></a>

    Like Audgie said, that's what an engagement is for.
    IMG_6364
    "Life is not orderly. No matter how we try to make life so, right in the middle of it we die, lose a leg, fall in love, drop a jar of applesauce." - Natalie Goldberg
  • edited December 2011
    If you are already planning your wedding then in my book you ARE engaged. You don't need a ring to be engaged.

    edit: mutually planning
    5/27/12
    image
  • SKP82SKP82 member
    2500 Comments Second Anniversary Combo Breaker
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:d9ae94c3-84d2-40c3-b6cb-57bd04db762e">Re: First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]HAHAHA SKP I love that LOLcat!!!!
    Posted by csousa1[/QUOTE]

    Thanks, Sousa!  <3
    IMG_6364
    "Life is not orderly. No matter how we try to make life so, right in the middle of it we die, lose a leg, fall in love, drop a jar of applesauce." - Natalie Goldberg
  • leia1979leia1979 member
    2500 Comments Fifth Anniversary 100 Love Its Name Dropper
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:2e7fab1c-4bd0-4266-8a42-f3bc8058fec8">Re: First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: First hellos! : Go tell my BF that! Please! lol. I hate talking about stuff with him and he wants to... shut up and get your butt in gear if you want to start planning!! sorry... mini vent.
    Posted by danimcg[/QUOTE]

    I had this issue for about a month before we got engaged. I explained to him NEY's favorite adage about putting the cart before the horse. After that, every time he started to talk wedding stuff, I'd say, "Cart! Horse!" and he'd shut up.

    OP, wait til you're engaged (which can be with or without a ring). Otherwise you're going to get bored with wedding stuff halfway through your engagement.
  • SKP82SKP82 member
    2500 Comments Second Anniversary Combo Breaker
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:d8b13e47-0cc0-4bf9-a6cf-7fe631bfa0a4">Re: First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]If you are already planning your wedding then in my book you ARE engaged. You don't need a ring to be engaged.
    Posted by jaycee7389[/QUOTE]

    Ugh.  This is so not true!

    Everyone keeps saying, "All you need is an agreement to be engaged and you're engaged."  While I agree with this, so many of the girls who come on here stretch that to mean, "We know we're going to get married, so we must be engaged," which is totally NOT the right answer!

    Do you call him your fiancé?  Does he agree you are, indeed, ENGAGED?  Because if not, then you're not.

    As I mentioned before, BF and I know we want to get married.  But, we both know that there needs to be a proposal for us to consider ourselves engaged.  Because that proposal has not happened, we do not consider ourselves to be engaged.  We've been together for over 7 years, lived together for almost 2 years, know we want to marry one another, and are not ENGAGED.

    I think we've been giving these chicks a little too much leeway with the "engagement' title.  Obviously you can be engaged without a ring, but if you come on here saying you're NOT engaged, or "engaged to be eng****" (I didn't SAY IT), then you are NOT engaged!!!

    ETA: I posted this before you posted your <u>ETA: MUTUALLY planning</u>, but I still think that's a tricky one.  Your BF can be planning with you (and who knows if it's bc he actually wants to), but still want the proposal before he considers the two of you officially engaged.

    Edited again for improper fiance spelling.
    IMG_6364
    "Life is not orderly. No matter how we try to make life so, right in the middle of it we die, lose a leg, fall in love, drop a jar of applesauce." - Natalie Goldberg
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:2662a12f-1b41-4199-b3fa-1a0a127aa80b">Re: First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: First hellos! : Ugh.  This is so not true! Everyone keeps saying, "All you need is an agreement to be engaged and you're engaged."  While I agree with this,<strong> so many of the girls who come on here stretch that to mean, "We know we're going to get married, so we must be engaged," which is totally NOT the right answer!</strong> Do you call him your fiancé?  Does he agree you are, indeed, ENGAGED?  Because if not, then you're not. As I mentioned before, BF and I know we want to get married.  But, we both know that there needs to be a proposal for us to consider ourselves engaged.  Because that proposal has not happened, we do not consider ourselves to be engaged.  We've been together for over 7 years, lived together for almost 2 years, know we want to marry one another, and are not ENGAGED. I think we've been giving these chicks a little too much leeway with the "engagement' title.  Obviously you can be engaged without a ring, but if you come on here saying you're NOT engaged, or "engaged to be eng****" (I didn't SAY IT), then you are NOT engaged!!! ETA: I posted this before you posted your ETA: MUTUALLY planning , but I still think that's a tricky one.  Your BF can be planning with you (and who knows if it's bc he actually wants to), but still want the proposal before he considers the two of you officially engaged. Edited again for improper fiance spelling.
    Posted by SKP82[/QUOTE]

    I definitely agree with you on this part. But what I was trying to say to OP is that if you and bf are planning your wedding to get married that is an engagement. If you are not sure if you want to get married/don't consider yourselves fiance(e) then you should NOT be pre-planning.
    5/27/12
    image
  • SKP82SKP82 member
    2500 Comments Second Anniversary Combo Breaker
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:c972fc6c-faea-4c84-835e-b57906b355a4">Re: First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: First hellos! : I definitely agree with you on this part. But what I was trying to say to OP is that if you and bf are planning your wedding to get married that is an engagement. If you are not sure if you want to get married/don't consider yourselves fiance(e) then you should NOT be pre-planning.
    Posted by jaycee7389[/QUOTE]

    Thanks Jaycee.  I understand what you were saying, but I didn't want the OP to get it all twisted or some sh!zzz.
    IMG_6364
    "Life is not orderly. No matter how we try to make life so, right in the middle of it we die, lose a leg, fall in love, drop a jar of applesauce." - Natalie Goldberg
  • SummerhavenSummerhaven member
    First Comment
    edited December 2011
    To the PP's: No, I definitely don't consider myself engaged, don't worry. Despite that, I don't see what's wrong with discussing first what is or is not financially feasible and if we're on the same page - not just for the wedding, but for our future.
  • SKP82SKP82 member
    2500 Comments Second Anniversary Combo Breaker
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:ce8fd3c4-ede9-4c01-b37c-592205bfe2cc">Re: First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]To the PP's: No, I definitely don't consider myself engaged, don't worry. Despite that, I don't see what's wrong with discussing first what is or is not financially feasible and if we're on the same page - not just for the wedding, but for our future.
    Posted by Summerhaven[/QUOTE]

    *le sigh*

    ETA: And a DD on your intro post!  Niiiice.
    IMG_6364
    "Life is not orderly. No matter how we try to make life so, right in the middle of it we die, lose a leg, fall in love, drop a jar of applesauce." - Natalie Goldberg
  • edited December 2011
    *facepalm*

    I guess you missed the point. And you're already quoted so DDing your into was pointless.

    OP most of us understand how exciting it is to be at "that point" in your relationship where you know it is headed towards engagement. We are just trying to advise you that you should either be engaged, or enjoy being in a relationship until it gets to that point. When it does happen is when you start discussing what you want in a wedding, what you can afford, etc.
    5/27/12
    image
  • SKP82SKP82 member
    2500 Comments Second Anniversary Combo Breaker
    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_first-hellos?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:9c161457-56ec-4463-9e18-92ffe9d43d4ePost:98a67eb4-c4da-4518-968c-a712ad239dce">Re: First hellos!</a>:
    [QUOTE]*<strong>facepalm* I guess you missed the point. And you're already quoted so DDing your into was pointless.</strong> OP most of us understand how exciting it is to be at "that point" in your relationship where you know it is headed towards engagement. We are just trying to advise you that you should either be engaged, or enjoy being in a relationship until it gets to that point. When it does happen is when you start discussing what you want in a wedding, what you can afford, etc.
    Posted by jaycee7389[/QUOTE]

    I'm starting to like you and

    <a href="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/images/store/3/0/2381bd8b-7541-4bbf-8071-c78e49f961e8.large.jpg" title="Click to view a larger photo" onclick="return gSiteLife.LoadForumPage('ForumImage', 'plckPhotoId', '2381bd8b-7541-4bbf-8071-c78e49f961e8', 'plckRedirectUrl', gSiteLife.EscapeValue(window.location.href));" class="PhotoLink"><img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/images/store/3/0/2381bd8b-7541-4bbf-8071-c78e49f961e8.medium.jpg" alt="" /></a>.

    <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" />
    IMG_6364
    "Life is not orderly. No matter how we try to make life so, right in the middle of it we die, lose a leg, fall in love, drop a jar of applesauce." - Natalie Goldberg
This discussion has been closed.
Choose Another Board
Search Boards