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I know we don't really talk about politics on this board but I thought this was very important.  Today (Sunday) a USA special Op force killed Osama Bin Laden.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/osama-bin-laden-killed-navy-seals-firefight/story?id=13505792

 

A death of a mass-murder is a wonderful thing, but please those who plan on traveling stay safe.  I am worried about retaliations....

 

That is all.

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  • luvdncn90luvdncn90 member
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    Actually Osama was killed a week ago in a US operation. They took his body back to do DNA tests and make sure that it was in fact him.

    I am not celebrating his death, instead I am celebrating the fact that there is one less terrorist that the world has to worry about and that justice has been done to all of the families affected and all the people killed in 9/11. I just hope and pray that our troops can come home soon. Sometimes I wonder if this war started with terrorism and has turned into a war for oil. I guess we will have to see what Obama decides to do.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_news?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:ed0ab591-bdb2-497f-912b-c1b63ca7c954Post:4e610170-e7f9-4b86-9309-66f262bcedc9">Re: News</a>:
    [QUOTE]<strong>Actually Osama was killed a week ago in a US operation. </strong>They took his body back to do DNA tests and make sure that it was in fact him. I am not celebrating his death, instead I am celebrating the fact that there is one less terrorist that the world has to worry about and that justice has been done to all of the families affected and all the people killed in 9/11. I just hope and pray that our troops can come home soon. Sometimes I wonder if this war started with terrorism and has turned into a war for oil. I guess we will have to see what Obama decides to do.
    Posted by luvdncn90[/QUOTE]

    <div>Not according to Obama's address. He definitely said "today" in a firefight and that they decided they had enough information a week ago. <a href="http://youtu.be/WSNN4c4rICg">((clicky))</a></div>
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  • peekaboo2011peekaboo2011 member
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    I'm a little worried about retaliation, but I'm celebrating his death.  I had a drink for it last night.  Whatever happens will happen, and we'll deal with it then like we've dealt with it before.  It's not like the US is known for rolling over and taking it.

    My mom had been moved out of that wing of the Pentagon prior so they could renovate, and she was supposed to be there that day.  However, she had to take my brother to the orthopedist as he had broken both bones in his arm that weekend.  I got side-eyed last night for being soooo excited he was dead.  But, oh well.  To each his own.  I know the political implications, this is one small victory, and yes, someone will take his place.  But the man who set the attacks that would have killed my mother is dead.  And I am beyond thrilled that that bastard is burning in Hades.
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  • alanna91alanna91 member
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    Just last week I attended a wreath laying ceremony at Ground Zero. It was the first time I had seen Ground Zero, and the first time I had been to NYC since June 2001.

    I also attended a luncheon last week with Maj. Gen. Michael J. Basla (Vice Commander of Air Force Space Command) as the guest speaker. Like peakaboo's mother, General Basla worked at the Pentagon and happened to be out that day. As soon as he heard what happened, he immediately drove back to The Pentagon. His speech about 9/11, USA, patriotism, and what's next was the most powerful speech from a guest speaker I have ever heard. If I could get a transcript of it I would post it here. What really struck me was how he said at first, everyone was saying "What a horrible accident". When the next plane hit, everyone knew this was no accident.

    I was only nine when it happened, and I don't remember much about it. What I know is what I've read about and heard about once I got old enough to really comprehend how important 9/11 was.

    I know I'm babbling, but there's a lot going on in my mind right now. I want to know what this means for our country and the future of terrorism...but of course we won't know for a while now. I just say God Bless to the Troops and to everyone who was affected by the terrorist attacks and war.


    Edit: I can't get a transcripy of General Basla's speech, but I also feel that this is an extremely important and poweful quote:

    "And tonight, let us think back to the sense of unity that prevailled on 9/11. I know that it has, at times, frayed. Yet today's achievment is a testament to the greatness of our country and the determination of the American people." -President Obama 1 May 2011
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  • ADTonkADTonk
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    "And tonight, let us think back to the sense of unity that prevailled on 9/11. I know that it has, at times, frayed. Yet today's achievment is a testament to the greatness of our country and the determination of the American people." -President Obama 1 May 2011

    Agreed, PP, this is very important. 

    I learned this morning that Bin Laden had been killed (I was watching a DVD last night so I didnt' see it on TV), via Facebook.  I saw a lot of great posts and a few with pointless debates like "Bush couldn't find him and Obama is better because he did".

    Honestly, who cares?  Bin Laden's death was not without effort from Bush, Obama, and every member of our active military.  Rather than starting debates, I wish more people would just come together and congratulate everyone who had a part in this.  I thought President Obama's speech was very well said.
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  • LizzyTish88LizzyTish88 member
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    I have to agree with PPs about retaliation. This is what really scares me. Bin Ladin was not the only terrorist. He would not have had the power that he did without followers. He may have been the mastermind, and his justice has been served, but that doesn't mean the automatic end to all the wrong.

    I also think that the media needs to focus a little bit more on the troops that have been fighting for this country. Even Obama gave them credit in his speech and I think that they need the recognition because they were the ones who were actually there, risking their lives for our safety.
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  • Elle1036Elle1036 member
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    I refuse to believe he's dead until we've found all the horcruxes...
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  • NurseyKNurseyK
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    It's monumental that he is dead. The devastation, sadness and economic and social destruction that he caused has changed the face of the U.S. forever. I can't think of one person who doesn't know exactly what they were doing when they first found out, and watched the news as the terrors unfolded. I can't say that I am celebrating, but I am glad that the U.S. military has finally taken care of what they initially set out to do. It will be interesting in the upcoming months to see how much the US will/won't help the government and economy of the middle east. 

    I'm scared for retaliation, too. Osama wasn't even a leader who made decisions anymore.

    At any rate.. I'm staying tuned, but I'm not glued to the news. 
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_news?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:ed0ab591-bdb2-497f-912b-c1b63ca7c954Post:a1539958-28bd-4328-a66b-8f4d0311c160">Re: News</a>:
    [QUOTE]I refuse to believe he's dead until we've found all the horcruxes...
    Posted by Elle1036[/QUOTE]


    Haha, way to relate Harry Potter to international news.

    I actually LOLed at this picture that several people posted on Facebook:


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    In all seriousness, though, Bin Laden is only one of thousands of terrorists in the world. I think his death is a huge symbolic event, but at the same time, it's not very practical. There are others that want to take his place, and I think we do face a huge chance of retaliation attacks. As for Obama, I'd be shocked if his approval rating doesn't go through the roof in coming weeks.
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  • luvdncn90luvdncn90 member
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    I've been kind of disturbed by some of the things being posted on facebook. There are people who are celebrating saying it's awesome that he's dead, there are others who are saying celebrating his death makes us no better then the terrorists we are fighing.

    I just kind of want to stay off facebook. No matter what people think there is always someone who is going to say that they're wrong for celebrating or they're wrong for thinking that we are no better then those who we've been fighting.

    I believe that the death of a tyrant is justified and I hope and pray that the familes and friends of those who lost their lives in the 9/11 attacks can find peace and closure knowing that the man behind that terrible day is no longer a threat to our country.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_news?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:ed0ab591-bdb2-497f-912b-c1b63ca7c954Post:9950f9c9-d44d-4c73-aae3-48bfecc9b57d">Re: News</a>:
    [QUOTE]<strong>I've been kind of disturbed by some of the things being posted on facebook. There are people who are celebrating saying it's awesome that he's dead, there are others who are saying celebrating his death makes us no better then the terrorists we are fighing.</strong> I just kind of want to stay off facebook. No matter what people think there is always someone who is going to say that they're wrong for celebrating or they're wrong for thinking that we are no better then those who we've been fighting. I believe that the death of a tyrant is justified and I hope and pray that the familes and friends of those who lost their lives in the 9/11 attacks can find peace and closure knowing that the man behind that terrible day is no longer a threat to our country.
    Posted by luvdncn90[/QUOTE]

    I have no qualms about Osama being dead. He was an evil man, and the world is  better off without him. His death deserves acknowledgment, and the brave people who executed the mission deserve their recognition.

    What I do find questionable is the way that some people are celebrating. I just saw a video of college students rioting on campus and celebrating with chants and beach balls.  Americans were disgusted when people in other nations celebrated just like that at the deaths of those on September 11th. Osama obviously was no innocent citizen, but I think celebrating in the streets is not going to win us any friends in the international community. I also fear it will make us more susceptible to retaliation attacks by blatantly shoving the celebration in their faces.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_news?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:ed0ab591-bdb2-497f-912b-c1b63ca7c954Post:9950f9c9-d44d-4c73-aae3-48bfecc9b57d">Re: News</a>:
    [QUOTE]I've been kind of disturbed by some of the things being posted on facebook. There are people who are celebrating saying it's awesome that he's dead, there are others who are saying celebrating his death makes us no better then the terrorists we are fighing. I just kind of want to stay off facebook. No matter what people think there is always someone who is going to say that they're wrong for celebrating or they're wrong for thinking that we are no better then those who we've been fighting. I believe that the death of a tyrant is justified and I hope and pray that the familes and friends of those who lost their lives in the 9/11 attacks can find peace and closure knowing that the man behind that terrible day is no longer a threat to our country.
    Posted by luvdncn90[/QUOTE]

    I'm glad he is dead.He was a truly evil man and so many innocent people are dead because of him. It seems morbid to celebrate (as in have an actual party) anyone's death but I have no problems saying that I'm glad he is dead.

    I really just hope this means our troops can come home soon. I'm also worried about retaliation being in the works.


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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_news?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:ed0ab591-bdb2-497f-912b-c1b63ca7c954Post:6c8ec3cd-1c92-4223-a3e0-0487f77fc237">Re: News</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: News : I'm glad he is dead.He was a truly evil man and so many innocent people are dead because of him. It seems morbid to celebrate (as in have an actual party) anyone's death but I have no problems saying that I'm glad he is dead. I really just hope this means our troops can come home soon. I'm also worried about retaliation being in the works.
    Posted by bethsmiles[/QUOTE]

    <div>I'm not going to lie Beth, I did some pretty insane happy dancing last night, and again this morning in the shower :)</div>
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  • bethsmilesbethsmiles member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_news?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:ed0ab591-bdb2-497f-912b-c1b63ca7c954Post:8bbe78ff-2725-45aa-904c-156a74d4f051">Re: News</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: News : I have no qualms about Osama being dead. He was an evil man, and the world is  better off without him. His death deserves acknowledgment, and the brave people who executed the mission deserve their recognition. What I do find questionable is the way that some people are celebrating. I just saw a video of college students rioting on campus and celebrating with chants and beach balls.  Americans were disgusted when people in other nations celebrated just like that at the deaths of those on September 11th. Osama obviously was no innocent citizen, but I think celebrating in the streets is not going to win us any friends in the international community. I also fear it will make us more susceptible to retaliation attacks by blatantly shoving the celebration in their faces.
    Posted by sparkles88[/QUOTE]

    I think celebrating the death of thousands of innocent people is completely different than celebrating the death of an evil man. I find it disturbing you made the comparison actually.


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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: News : I think celebrating the death of thousands of innocent people is completely different than celebrating the death of an evil man. I find it disturbing you made the comparison actually.
    Posted by bethsmiles[/QUOTE]


    I know it can be seen as a controversial point. I do think it's good that he is dead. There's no question about that. It's not so much the fact that people are celebrating it, but the fact that they are doing it so publicly that bothers me. I have no problems with Peekaboo's private celebratory drink, but I feel like it's almost mocking and provoking terrorists when people take it into the streets. You can bet that footage will make its way around the world. There are still many terrorists left, and I think it will further antagonize them, possibly putting even more innocent citizens in danger.

    *edited for an extra unnecessary word.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_news?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:ed0ab591-bdb2-497f-912b-c1b63ca7c954Post:4e610170-e7f9-4b86-9309-66f262bcedc9">Re: News</a>:
    [QUOTE]<strong>Actually Osama was killed a week ago in a US operation</strong>. They took his body back to do DNA tests and make sure that it was in fact him. I am not celebrating his death, instead I am celebrating the fact that there is one less terrorist that the world has to worry about and that justice has been done to all of the families affected and all the people killed in 9/11. I just hope and pray that our troops can come home soon. Sometimes I wonder if this war started with terrorism and has turned into a war for oil. I guess we will have to see what Obama decides to do.
    Posted by luvdncn90[/QUOTE]
    <p class="MsoNoSpacing">I think that was just media mix up.<span>  </span>Now all the papers say that he was killed on Sunday.</p> <p class="MsoNoSpacing"> </p> <p class="MsoNoSpacing">I didn't "Celebrate" so to speak, but I am so happy he is gone.<span>  </span>My dad was suppose to be on one of the plans coming from LA but thank God he wasn't.<span>  </span>For us I think it was a great victory for our Nation and the world.<span>  </span>I just pray that the government will stay vigilant.</p>
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    [QUOTE]I refuse to believe he's dead until we've found all the horcruxes...
    Posted by Elle1036[/QUOTE]

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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_news?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:ed0ab591-bdb2-497f-912b-c1b63ca7c954Post:a1539958-28bd-4328-a66b-8f4d0311c160">Re: News</a>:
    [QUOTE]I refuse to believe he's dead until we've found all the horcruxes...
    Posted by Elle1036[/QUOTE]

    I didn't notice your post before, I must have missed it when I was skimming the posts. Double win, Elle! This is the best post I've seen relating to Bin Laden's death.


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