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Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation

Back story first: my best friend since 8th grade was in a tragic accident 9 years ago and suffered a traumatic brain injury. She has made an incredible recovery after having to re-learn how to do everything from walking to talking, and everything else under the sun. She is now working, in college, living on her own, etc. The only lasting effects from the injury include some noticeable balance issues when walking, some speech issues (she sounds intoxicated sometimes; her speech is slow and sometimes difficult to understand to those who aren't used to it), and some minor issues regarding boundaries, behavior, etc. However, she's my best friend, and stood beside me as my MOH when I was married back in 2008 (divorced shortly after)

So, when FI and I announced our engagement back in October, my friend was thrilled for us. She also immediately insisted that she would be in my wedding party. I told her that we weren't even close to planning, didn't know if we were having a wedding party or not, but regardless there was no way I'd be getting married without her in attendance. She then insisted that if she wasn't in the wedding party, that she would be doing a reading. I, again, told her that we weren't worried about any of that stuff right now, we just wanted to enjoy our engagement, but that I was thrilled she was so excited for me. 

Fast forward to the present; and it hasn't stopped. I see her at least once a  week, and every time she is set on telling me what she's found for my wedding, what songs I have to have, what readings I have to have (she'll actually try to talk to me during the sermon or readings during mass at church to point out things in the missal that she likes), what dress she's going to wear, what colors I should have, etc. I in no way want to sound insensitive, as this girl is one of my closest friends in the world, and she is involved in my life regularly. 

However, I don't know who to tell her without hurting her that she will not be in the wedding party (we are having our siblings, only), and that she won't be doing a reading (I've chosen people who are dear to me and also deeply religious, as we are having a Catholic ceremony with a full mass). I adore my friend, and I worry that she will be hurt by not being "involved" with things. Due to the damage from her accident, her emotional maturity is sort of stuck at the level it was when she suffered her injury, which was an immature 18. She takes things very personally, and I know from other situations we've endured together since that time that she will get angry and hurt when I tell her. 

I don't want to upset her, and if it was anyone else I'd easily know how to address the situation; but given the circumstances of her injury I am very worried about hurting her feelings. She's obviously been through a lot, and the majority of our friends from years past ditched her when she had her injury (she was in a hospital setting for almost 2 years post accident); I don't want her to feel like I don't love and value her. Any ideas? 
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  • I realize it seems like a runner up prize, but could she bring up the gifts? Or read the intercessions? Although if she isn't religious at all, it might be strange for her to read the intercessions.


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  • I don't understand why she can't be in the WP. You said you loved her numerous times in your post.

    It doesn't matter how you put it; she's going to be hurt by your decision but you can tell her the BM's are only your sisters/cousins/inlaws etc. and the readings are being done by other friends. I don't think you should keep blowing her off, you need to tell her she doesn't have a role in the WP but will be more than welcome as a guest.
  • It would be nice to let her do some kind of reading, even a short one. If you really don't want her involved, unfortunately you just need to be honest. You can let her know that you've decided only family members involved in the ceremony but you can't wait to celebrate with her during the reception. Just don't let her guilt you into doing something that you're deadset against.
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  • Is she religious? You mentioned talking to her during church. If she will take it personally, can you give her a short reading (of your choice)? I don't think there's anyway that her feelings won't be hurt if don't include her somehow. Or maybe ask her to do a toast at the reception?
  • Not everyone I loved was in my wedding party. If you want just siblings, that's fine.

    But if you don't want to hurt her feelings, you need to find something for her. I'm not usually a fan of giving guests "jobs" to make them feel special, but I feel like this situation may be an exception. 

    Can she do a prayer or toast at the reception? Would you be willing to invite her to get ready with you in the morning? Would she be up to being a DOC?
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    [QUOTE]Back story first: <strong>my best friend since 8th grade</strong> was in a tragic accident 9 years ago and suffered a traumatic brain injury. She has made an incredible recovery after having to re-learn how to do everything from walking to talking, and everything else under the sun. She is now working, in college, living on her own, etc. The only lasting effects from the injury include some noticeable balance issues when walking, some speech issues (she sounds intoxicated sometimes; her speech is slow and sometimes difficult to understand to those who aren't used to it), and some minor issues regarding boundaries, behavior, etc. However, she's my best friend, and stood beside me as my MOH when I was married back in 2008 (divorced shortly after) So, when FI and I announced our engagement back in October, my friend was thrilled for us. She also immediately insisted that she would be in my wedding party. I told her that we weren't even close to planning, didn't know if we were having a wedding party or not, but regardless there was no way I'd be getting married without her in attendance. She then insisted that if she wasn't in the wedding party, that she would be doing a reading. I, again, told her that we weren't worried about any of that stuff right now, we just wanted to enjoy our engagement, but that I was thrilled she was so excited for me.  Fast forward to the present; and it hasn't stopped. I see her at least once a  week, and every time she is set on telling me what she's found for my wedding, what songs I have to have, what readings I have to have (she'll actually try to talk to me during the sermon or readings during mass at church to point out things in the missal that she likes), what dress she's going to wear, what colors I should have, etc. I in no way want to sound insensitive, as this girl is one of my closest friends in the world, and she is involved in my life regularly.  However, I don't know who to tell her without hurting her that she will not be in the wedding party (we are having our siblings, only), and that she won't be doing a reading <strong>(I've chosen people who are dear to me</strong> and also deeply religious, as we are having a Catholic ceremony with a full mass). I adore my friend, and I worry that she will be hurt by not being "involved" with things. Due to the damage from her accident, her emotional maturity is sort of stuck at the level it was when she suffered her injury, which was an immature 18. She takes things very personally, and I know from other situations we've endured together since that time that she will get angry and hurt when I tell her.  I don't want to upset her, and if it was anyone else I'd easily know how to address the situation; but given the circumstances of her injury I am very worried about hurting her feelings. She's obviously been through a lot, and the majority of our friends from years past ditched her when she had her injury (she was in a hospital setting for almost 2 years post accident); I don't want her to feel like I don't love and value her. Any ideas? 
    Posted by mandi195[/QUOTE]

    You stated that you want people who are dear to you. You also posted that she's been your best friend since 8th grace (hmm isn't that someone who is dear to you). I see that you mention issues with her accident and see that as a cop-out as to why you don't want her in your WP. Her feelings are going to be hurt, there is no way around that.

    We cannot tell you what to do, you and your FI need to decide that on your own, but is it worth hurting a friend that you claim has been your best friend since 8th grade?

     

  • It's not a matter of "I don't want her to," It's a matter of FI and I decided to have my 2 brothers stand with me, his 2 sisters with him, and that's it. I know sides don't have to be even, but I like the symbolism of having just my brothers at my side. 
    Being a church service, there are only 2 readings, and we can't add anything to the mass. I have 2 family members who are very religious, and to me it means more to have someone do a scripture reading if they have the right reverence for what they are reading. It's not that I am against her reading or speaking, it's that I've already chosen these two family members because that's what my heart is set on.
    Also, we aren't having any speeches or toasts at the reception, so that's out. 
    She's said she can be my "helper," but I find that demeaning and I would never ask, or allow, my friend to be someone I expect to just do things for me on my wedding day. She's said she'll be my flower girl, but 1) I think that's ridiculous, since she's far too old for that, and 2) we aren't having one.
    This isn't just an issue with my wedding. When my brother got married last year, my friend was asking the bride constantly what she was supposed to wear, when she should be there to "help get ready," if she could get her hair done with the bridal party, if she could sit at the head table, etc. 
    Her brain injury has blurred the lines of boundries and proper behavior, and when she doesn't feel involved or included she gets very hurt by it. I want her there on my wedding day; I couldn't imagine her not being there, front row with my mom & dad; but I simply am not having any friends involved in my ceremony.
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  • kmbryant2413kmbryant2413 member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_looking-for-some-advice-on-a-sensitive-situation?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:92fe9742-b0c5-4c99-8076-7531111a6072Post:87e9bcf2-788f-40fe-ac98-578374a77fd8">Re: Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation</a>:
    [QUOTE]It's not a matter of "I don't want her to," It's a matter of FI and<strong> I decided to</strong> have my 2 brothers stand with me, his 2 sisters with him, and that's it. I know sides don't have to be even, but<strong> I like</strong> the symbolism of having just my brothers at my side.  Being a church service, there are only 2 readings, and we can't add anything to the mass. I have 2 family members who are very religious, and<strong> to me it means more to have someone do a scripture reading if they have the right reverence</strong> for what they are reading. It's not that I am against her reading or speaking, it's that<strong> I've already chosen</strong> these two family members because that's what my heart is set on. Also, <strong>we aren't having any speeches or toasts at the reception, so that's out.</strong>  She's said she can be my "helper," but I find that demeaning and I would never ask, or allow, my friend to be someone I expect to just do things for me on my wedding day. She's said she'll be my flower girl, but 1) I think that's ridiculous, since she's far too old for that, and 2) we aren't having one. This isn't just an issue with my wedding. When my brother got married last year, my friend was asking the bride constantly what she was supposed to wear, when she should be there to "help get ready," if she could get her hair done with the bridal party, if she could sit at the head table, etc.  Her brain injury has blurred the lines of boundries and proper behavior, and when she doesn't feel involved or included she gets very hurt by it. I want her there on my wedding day; I couldn't imagine her not being there, front row with my mom & dad; but I simply am not having any friends involved in my ceremony.
    Posted by mandi195[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>It sounds like she really just wants to help and be involved, and at this point it sounds like you're pretty firm on hurting your friends feelings. If she wants to help you get ready, or maybe just hang out with you, then if you don't want to damage (perhaps irrepairably) a friendship you've had this long, then just let her. If you know that her maturity level is what it is, and you choose to be friends with her, then deal with it.</div><div>
    </div><div>If you're dead set on not adding anyone, she can't be your helper, <em>then it sounds like you've made up your own mind, yeah</em>?</div><div>
    </div><div>At that last bold: Why can't you let a 'very dear and special friend' have ONE 2 minute toast or speech?</div><div>
    </div><div>Edit: Bolded some points and clarity.

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  • She's going to be hurt. You're saying she is your best friend but she's not dear enough to you to even do a reading. It kinda rubs me the wrong waythat you're using her accident as a cop out for why she can't be involved.
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    [QUOTE]It's not a matter of "I don't want her to," It's a matter of FI and I decided to have my 2 brothers stand with me, his 2 sisters with him, and that's it. I know sides don't have to be even, but I like the symbolism of having just my brothers at my side.  Being a church service, there are only 2 readings, and we can't add anything to the mass. I have 2 family members who are very religious, and to me it means more to have someone do a scripture reading if they have the right reverence for what they are reading. It's not that I am against her reading or speaking, it's that I've already chosen these two family members because that's what my heart is set on. Also, we aren't having any speeches or toasts at the reception, so that's out.  She's said she can be my "helper," but I find that demeaning and I would never ask, or allow, my friend to be someone I expect to just do things for me on my wedding day. She's said she'll be my flower girl, but 1) I think that's ridiculous, since she's far too old for that, and 2) we aren't having one. This isn't just an issue with my wedding. When my brother got married last year, my friend was asking the bride constantly what she was supposed to wear, when she should be there to "help get ready," if she could get her hair done with the bridal party, if she could sit at the head table, etc.  Her brain injury has blurred the lines of boundries and proper behavior, and when she doesn't feel involved or included she gets very hurt by it. I want her there on my wedding day; I couldn't imagine her not being there, front row with my mom & dad; but I simply am not having any friends involved in my ceremony.
    Posted by mandi195[/QUOTE]

    When it comes down to it, it is a matter of you just not wanting her to be a part of it. Why can't she get ready with you? There's no rule that says bridal party only is allowed to get ready together. I think that would be a nice gesture. If she asks to help with anything else just tell you're all set and everything has been figured out. If she's asking what color dress to wear ask her what her favorite color to wear is and let her know she can wear that color.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation : It sounds like she really just wants to help and be involved, and at this point it sounds like you're pretty firm on hurting your friends feelings. If she wants to help you get ready, or maybe just hang out with you, then if you don't want to damage (perhaps irrepairably) a friendship you've had this long, then just let her. If you know that her maturity level is what it is, and you choose to be friends with her, then deal with it. If you're dead set on not adding anyone, she can't be your helper, then it sounds like you've made up your own mind, yeah ?
    Posted by kmbryant2413[/QUOTE]
    I think it's very unfair to say that I'm "pretty firm on hurting my friends feelings". Yes, I know her maturity level is what it is, it's not a choice to be her friend, she's my friend, period. I will not abandon her, and or friendship, becuase her injury has changed her ability to mature emotionally the way one would expect. 
    Someone eles suggested having her bring up the gifts, and I never even thought of that. That is a perfect suggestion, which I will ask her if she would like to do for us, since the Eucharist is so very imperative to the entire ceremony/mass. Thank you for the great suggestion, (and I'm sorry I don't recall off hand who posted it)
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    [QUOTE]She's going to be hurt. You're saying she is your best friend but she's not dear enough to you to even do a reading. It kinda rubs me the wrong waythat you're using her accident as a cop out for why she can't be involved.
    Posted by beachwed10[/QUOTE]
    It's not that she's not dear enough to me to do a reading; but she's not a devout Catholic and it is important to me to have people who take their religion seriously do the scripture readings during the mass. I'm not using her accident as a cop out. We decided on a family only wedding party, and to have people who are deeply religious do the scripture readings, that's all there is to it. 
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  • And the petitions? Or is she not eligible for that either?
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re:Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation : It's not that she's not dear enough to me to do a reading; but she's not a devout Catholic and it is important to me to have people who take their religion seriously do the scripture readings during the mass. I'm not using her accident as a cop out. We decided on a family only wedding party, and to have people who are deeply religious do the scripture readings, that's all there is to it. 
    Posted by mandi195[/QUOTE]

    <div>You have post after post of 'That's all there is to it.'  'It's already been decided' 'That's how it is'. Why are you asking for advice if you're so unwilling to consider? It doesn't matter now, I guess she's bringing up the gifts, but loosen up a little. Those people are there to celebrate with you, let them celebrate.</div>
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    [QUOTE]Not everyone I loved was in my wedding party. If you want just siblings, that's fine. But if you don't want to hurt her feelings, you need to find something for her. I'm not usually a fan of giving guests "jobs" to make them feel special, but I feel like this situation may be an exception.  Can she do a prayer or toast at the reception? Would you be willing to invite her to get ready with you in the morning? Would she be up to being a DOC?
    Posted by MoonlightSilver[/QUOTE]
    Thank you for understanding the delicacy of the situation. I think I may invite her to get ready with me, as well. I hate the obligatory jobs some people hand out, which is why this was so difficult. I'm grateful for the great ideas you and the other ladies have come up with!
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  • I vote with letting her get ready with you.  Your brothers will not be much help in that department so I'm sure having your best friend there that day to do girl stuff would be special to her. She can be your "helper" but you don't need to treat her like your slave.  Let her be like the DOC-- she obviously wants to help so I would find a way to include her since she is one of your best friends.  I could see if it was some random cousin or something, but she is your best friend.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re:Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation : You have post after post of 'That's all there is to it.'  'It's already been decided' 'That's how it is'. Why are you asking for advice if you're so unwilling to consider? It doesn't matter now, I guess she's bringing up the gifts, but loosen up a little. Those people are there to celebrate with you, let them celebrate.
    Posted by kmbryant2413[/QUOTE]
    I am letting them celebrate, however, the Catholic church is very specific about certain things (such as readings), and my faith and the seriousness that goes with it is not something I can 'loosen up" about. I also do not feel that if my FI and I have decided to have only our siblings in our wedding party that I should have to "loosen up" about that simply because someones feelings might be hurt. I was looking for a way to involve my friend in some way without her being hurt that she didn't get the "role" she wanted. I have found the solution thanks to some great suggestions here. Problem solved! :)
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    [QUOTE]I vote with letting her get ready with you.  Your brothers will not be much help in that department so I'm sure having your best friend there that day to do girl stuff would be special to her. She can be your "helper" but you don't need to treat her like your slave.  Let her be like the DOC-- she obviously wants to help so I would find a way to include her since she is one of your best friends.  I could see if it was some random cousin or something, but she is your best friend.
    Posted by erinlin25[/QUOTE]
    agreed, thank you for understanding why I don't want to call her a "helper." It seems so cheap to me. I actaully just spoke with her and asked her if she'd be want to help me get ready that morning, since my brothers would be useless, and she was so excited I thought she was going to cry. I also asked her if she'd like to help bring up the gifts, and she said she wasn't sure, as she is nervous that due to her balance issues she may "mess it up". I told her it was her choice, but that she'd be fine and I'd have my FI's best friend walk with her (also carrying the gifts) in case she needed an arm to hold or anything. She is thrilled, and I feel great knowing that she's happy and got to be involved, and my FI and I didn't hurt her feelings by not putting her in the wedding party. <div>Thanks, again, ladies!!</div>
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  • In Response to Re:Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation:[QUOTE]In Response to Re:Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation:In Response to Re:Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation : You have post after post of 'That's all there is to it.' nbsp;'It's already been decided' 'That's how it is'. Why are you asking for advice if you're so unwilling to consider? It doesn't matter now, I guess she's bringing up the gifts, but loosen up a little. Those people are there to celebrate with you, let them celebrate.Posted by kmbryant2413I am letting them celebrate, however, the Catholic church is very specific about certain things such as readings, and my faith and the seriousness that goes with it is not something I can 'loosen up" about. I also do not feel that if my FI and I have decided to have only our siblings in our wedding party that I should have to "loosen up" about that simply because someones feelings might be hurt. I was looking for a way to involve my friend in some way without her being hurt that she didn't get the "role" she wanted. I have found the solution thanks to some great suggestions here.

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    mandi195[/QUOTE]

    Okay first of all, I have yet to go to a Catholic church that makes a requirement that you be Catholic to do a reading. Secondly, the fact you don't want her getting ready with you says it all to me. Just say you don't want her involved. Don't sugar coat it.
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    [QUOTE]I have no comment on the situation, since you have solved the issue, but the reason someone said your min was firmly made up was because you keep posting "that's all there is to it", "I've decided", etc. just FYI.
    Posted by StageManager14[/QUOTE]
    Valid point; I should work on my wording sometimes. I am fairly stubborn. Thanks for being a second to point it out; clearly if more than one person sees it that way it means I'm not coming across the way I intended. I appreciate the FYI.
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  • mcda04mcda04 member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_looking-for-some-advice-on-a-sensitive-situation?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:92fe9742-b0c5-4c99-8076-7531111a6072Post:df6d7eed-ced9-458f-9096-977f83e1e82d">Re:Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re:Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation : It's not that she's not dear enough to me to do a reading; but <strong>she's not a devout Catholic </strong>and it is important to me to have people who take their religion seriously do the scripture readings during the mass. I'm not using her accident as a cop out. We decided on a family only wedding party, and to have people who are deeply religious do the scripture readings, that's all there is to it. 
    Posted by mandi195[/QUOTE]
    Ok, this would be important for me as well. Matter of fact, my Church wouldn't allow anyone that wasn't Catholic or in good standings with the Church to do the readings and since most of my family / friends are <strong>NOT </strong>married through the Catholic Church or Catholic at all, I wasn't able to include them.

    My BIL's gf who I am close to was my BM but she also presented the Flowers to Mary to be blessed. Maybe she can do that. Before you take them to the Virgin's alter, the Priest requests someone to bring them to the alter and he gives them to you. Not sure if you were doing this but I really like this part of our ceremony.
  •  I have no idea what bringing up the gifts is, so if her feelings are still hurt (if she doesn't think it's important or is just a job), it may be a good thing to keep some other ideas the ladies here gave in mind (getting ready, a toast, etc). GL with everything and hope it works out!
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re:Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation: Okay first of all, I have yet to go to a Catholic church that makes a requirement that you be Catholic to do a reading. Secondly, the fact you don't want her getting ready with you says it all to me. Just say you don't want her involved. Don't sugar coat it.
    Posted by beachwed10[/QUOTE]
    What?!?! I said she WILL BE getting ready with me... And yes, my church "prefers" if the readings are done by a practicing Catholic. Every church has different rules, I've found.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_looking-for-some-advice-on-a-sensitive-situation?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:92fe9742-b0c5-4c99-8076-7531111a6072Post:fe54cf65-028e-41b1-94af-3d1389d14043">Re:Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re:Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation: Okay first of all, I have yet to go to a Catholic church that makes a requirement that you be Catholic to do a reading. Secondly, the fact you don't want her getting ready with you says it all to me. Just say you don't want her involved. Don't sugar coat it.
    Posted by beachwed10[/QUOTE]

    I was kind of thinking the same thing. I don't get how having someone do a reading makes them more devout than someone bringing up the gifts? They're participating in the mass, aren't they? I was born Catholic but, I don't practice anymore so maybe I am just not up to speed on why there is a difference.

    Sounds like you found a solution though and glad your friend is happy with your plan.

    ETA: Just saw your response, so that makes sense.
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_looking-for-some-advice-on-a-sensitive-situation?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:92fe9742-b0c5-4c99-8076-7531111a6072Post:fba81631-77cd-459f-8cc6-78db2d5dde3f">Re: Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation</a>:
    [QUOTE] I have no idea what bringing up the gifts is, so if her feelings are still hurt (if she doesn't think it's important or is just a job), it may be a good thing to keep some other ideas the ladies here gave in mind (getting ready, a toast, etc). GL with everything and hope it works out!
    Posted by winelover123[/QUOTE]
    The gifts are the bread and wine for the Eucharist (communion); it's an important part of mass, and she has agreed to do that. As stated previously, she is also going to be getting ready with me. She's a happy camper, and I'm thrilled to be able to have her involved in a way that speaks to the value of our friendship without any hurt feelings. 
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_looking-for-some-advice-on-a-sensitive-situation?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:92fe9742-b0c5-4c99-8076-7531111a6072Post:54e72dc6-dfb4-4822-bd84-c7438fb34f3b">Re: Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation : The gifts are the bread and wine for the Eucharist (communion); it's an important part of mass, and she has agreed to do that. As stated previously, she is also going to be getting ready with me. She's a happy camper, and I'm thrilled to be able to have her involved in a way that speaks to the value of our friendship without any hurt feelings. 
    Posted by mandi195[/QUOTE]

    Ah I think we were typing at the same time - I didn't see that response before I started to reply. Glad it worked out for you!
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_looking-for-some-advice-on-a-sensitive-situation?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:92fe9742-b0c5-4c99-8076-7531111a6072Post:395d21be-0306-4784-aeb9-9d2cf5d6e26d">Re:Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re:Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation : <strong>Ok, this would be important for me as well. Matter of fact, my Church wouldn't allow anyone that wasn't Catholic or in good standings with the Church to do the readings</strong> and since most of my family / friends are NOT married through the Catholic Church or Catholic at all, I wasn't able to include them. My BIL's gf who I am close to was my BM but she also presented the Flowers to Mary to be blessed. Maybe she can do that. Before you take them to the Virgin's alter, the Priest requests someone to bring them to the alter and he gives them to you. Not sure if you were doing this but I really like this part of our ceremony.
    Posted by mcda04[/QUOTE]
    Thank you, specifically for the bolded part. It is very important to me, and it's also a church rule. Our church does not do the presentation of the flowers; though I think it is a beautiful part of the ceremony when it's included. 
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  • Thanks, to everyone, for the ideas, suggestions, and help! 

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  • Maybe you covered this and I just missed it but how are you getting married in a Catholic Church if you are divorced?
     
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_looking-for-some-advice-on-a-sensitive-situation?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:92fe9742-b0c5-4c99-8076-7531111a6072Post:ba6f63cf-d0bb-4b10-855b-302ff1db6e2c">Re: Looking for some advice on a sensitive situation</a>:
    [QUOTE]Maybe you covered this and I just missed it but how are you getting married in a Catholic Church if you are divorced?
    Posted by HobokenBride2012[/QUOTE]

    <div>If they had it annulled, she can. A friend of mine had her first marriage annulled so she could marry her second husband in the Catholic Church. </div>
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