It stinks in here and I need to let this out

katiewhompus

Potty training takes a long time, especially in a rescue dog or older dog. It's not something you can work at for a weekend and have down perfectly.

From the sound of the post I don't think you are trying what needs to be done. Go give Victoria Stillwell a call and see what she tells you. Probably that you need to take out the dog every 30 minutes until good behavior is established, replace the floors, and learn how to be a responsible pet owners.

I'm sorry, but no animal lover would willingly wish death upon their pet or the pet of a loved one just because of pee. That is your fault for faulty/no training, not the dogs.

MeaghanandMichael

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[QUOTE]I actually think I might be sick to my stomach, reading that you hope your dog gets some "dog disease, or runs away". My puggle is bad sometimes, pees in the house.. VERY rarely does she do that but no matter how bad and menacing she can be, she's my little animal, who depends on ME to take care of her, and to make sure she doesn't DIE. Please for the love of the dog, get up off the couch and take it for a walk, show that you have SOME compassion!!!!!<strong> I'm going to go hug my dog now.</strong>
Posted by herecomesthebride1986[/QUOTE]

Me too. To ward off the evil in this world. Oh, and the selfish assholes.

tidetravel

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[QUOTE]Potty training takes a long time, especially in a rescue dog or older dog. It's not something you can work at for a weekend and have down perfectly. From the sound of the post I don't think you are trying what needs to be done. Go give Victoria Stillwell a call and see what she tells you. Probably that you need to take out the dog every 30 minutes until good behavior is established, replace the floors, and learn how to be a responsible pet owners. I'm sorry, but no animal lover would willingly wish death upon their pet or the pet of a loved one just because of pee. That is your fault for faulty/no training, not the dogs.
Posted by katiewhompus[/QUOTE]
VS would probably take the dog away for it's own good.

I'm going to go with the cliche, "You have a FI problem.  Not a dog problem."  Because, there's not much more I can say without getting banned.

katiewhompus

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: It stinks in here and I need to let this out : VS would probably take the dog away for it's own good. I'm going to go with the cliche, "You have a FI problem.  Not a dog problem."  Because, there's not much more I can say without getting banned.
Posted by tidetravel[/QUOTE]

This is probably true.

I also agree with Tide on the Fi problem. This is a very big thing for him to just ignore. Will he ignore a kid if it is sick? Can you honestly say you are ok spending the rest of your life cleaning up after him, because I doubt he's going to start magically caring after the wedding.

Blueyed228

I can just picture this argument happening in OP's house

FI- on couch with Lays potato chips: "Babe, the dog keeps looking at me and wont leave me alone, she is whining and nudging my leg"

OP- "Your dog is stupid!  I hope it dies!"

FI- "WTF does this dog want?  Im trying to watch TV!"

OP: "I dont know!  Leave me alone Im knotting about my stupid friends!"

20 min later........

OP- "OMG Your stupid dog just pissed on the floor again!"

FI- "Whaaaat?  Why did she do that???"

katiewhompus

Fwiw, I do understand your frustration, just not your reaction. When I moved in with H I inherited a very large, untrained, and somewhat aggressive dog. It took us 1 year of consistent, difficult training to reset her and she is now a wonderful family pet (who is still undergoing training for the rest of her life).
 Just because a dog had a rough start doesn't mean it's broken.

jasmineh7777

OP- You're not somewhere off beating the dog are you? Because now I'm worried about the poor dog.

Blueyed228

i think since you get banned for wishing death on people, that you should also get banned for wishing death on animals.  Its seems only fair.

I think Sarah McLachlan would agree.....

NatesGirl16

I am so pissed that I got up and read this.

OP, I can't even believe that you are a teacher (which I think i remember from your previous posts) How can you exhibit any compassion or patience in the classroom if you wish death upon an innocent, defenseless animal?

Honestly, it seems like you'd rather play on the Knot than take care of an animal you have a commitment to.  Like Jas said, your FI made a commitment when he adopted the dog and you two made a commitment to each other when you got engaged.  The dog was already in the picture and is part of the package.  Honor your commitment and treat the dog with the love it deserves.

I don't buy the "we're so poor we don't have money for anything" excuse.  I know you had job/money issues that you've posted about here, but got to the fucking library and take out a few books about pet care.  Google some techniques you can try with the dog.  Money isn't the answer, but consistent work and training is.

And, for the sake of the rest of us (especially me since I work in NJ public schools and could theoretically have to deal with them one day), please don't have children until you are mature enough to react with love, compassion, patience, and work when they don't act in the idealized way you think they should.

deepcovejackie

Wow, that poor dog.  I want to cry.

needle&thread

I have never owned a dog but I have a child...rethink this thing...

The man has trained you and not the dog.  Your FI has you jumping through hoops for a dog?  He has no consideration for your feelings?  And you clean up after both of them?  WHO IS TRAINING WHO?  What you accept now in your relationship, only gets worse in a marriage!! A dog is a dog--it only knows what you teach it by example.  Just like with children, you have to be consistent. 

Please don't have any children...atleast yet!!  A one-year old child will take off their diaper--if you don't change them fast enough--and give you whats in it with their hand!!!  If you dont take it you will find it when company comes over--it maybe on the couch!!  You cannot take the child and put it back!!!  Sugah, you got to get yourself together--get control!!!

Tell FI that the dog is a deal breaker, since he wont take responsibility for it.  But the real underlying issue is that he is selfish and does not care about your feelings.  Trust me it gets worse, with kids, money, major decisions, etc.  If he doesn't care about your feelings now and this is supposed to be the best time..what later?

Try counseling for you and FI about your relationship and dog resentment, then place the dog with the local humane society; let the professionals train him and find him a good home.

Sorry...

S and CJ

kimp67

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[QUOTE] It's bad enough I inherited FI's house - which was a horrible bachelor pad of a mess; The wood in the hall has started to buckle (not like it's a nice floor, it's been here since the house was built in the 50s and needs to go anyway). I tried to hammer the buckle down - and this horrid smell comes out.  So I rip up the hardwood floor - everything  is rotten underneath.  It smells of ammonia and urine so bad in this house right now.  The base floor is even saturated through so that I can see it from the basement. FI ignores these problems - like he has for the 6 years he's owned this god damn dog.  I get left with the cleaning and problem solving because I'm the only one who cares about the smell and the mess.  FI would live in dog feces if he could.  It's a problem - so he just ignores it like it will go away.Posted by M&R7111[/QUOTE]

I hope you're prepared to live like this for the rest of your life, or else always being the ONLY person responsible for the care, upkeep & cleaning of your house.  If he's the type of man that ignores rotting floors & would live in dog feces he's not going to change just because he doesn't have a dog anymore.

zitiqueen

Your FI is the asshole here. You run a very close second.

The dog is completely innocent in all of this.

I guarantee this poster will be over on TIP within a year after the wedding complaining about what a lazy, selfish douchebag her husband is and how can she get him to change and it's not her fault she willingly married a guy she knew to be a lazy, selfish douchebag!

[Deleted User]

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[QUOTE]So instead of getting off your lazy asses and letting the dog out a few times a day, or god forbid take it for a walk, you would rather get rid of it? Makes sense. The only reason a dog pees in the house is because it is either sick, or no one is letting it out. <strong>I hope your dog gets diarrhea in your bed.</strong> You should be ashamed of yourself.  I wonder if your FI knows what a gem he has got in you.  I really hope you dont have kids cause they pee/poop/puke everywhere too.
Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

Ha, that one made me laugh.

Seriously though, I agree with PPs. You sound absolutely horrible. Whisky barfs on the carpet and leaves stains, which means we will have to replace the carpets when we move out. He also sharpens his claws on the carpet despite the fact that he has numerous scratching posts. but despite irritating me on those issues, I can't imagine ever wishing death on him. That makes me sad just thinking about it. Now I just want to cuddle with him.

You are not an animal lover.

abgpal11

I had a dog growing up and I loved him so much.  I would give anything to still have him, so it really bothers me for someone to say they wish an animal would die, especially when the animal can't help what's going on (if it's not taught how to behave, you can't expect it to know - and if it's got a medical problem, that's not its fault either).

I had a problem with my cat urinating out of her litter box.  Took her to the vet and found out she has kidney problems so I had to put her on prescription food wtih less protein.  She literally couldn't help where she was going to the bathroom because she couldn't get to the litter box.  She also throws up a few times a week and while I don't enjoy cleaning it up, I don't think twice about it because I love her and when I adopted her, I took on the responsibility to take care of her. 

And, if my FI couldn't take care of his dog/let it do whatever, I wouldn't be comfortable even considering having kids with him.  Not only would I be afraid he wouldn't help, but I really don't think I could handle someone being so careless with an animal.

jenn.daniel

If your dog has too much energy, he should be taken out to play more, not left home alone all day.  When the semester started and I was gone for more than a couple of hours at a time, our dog started chewing.  Now I come home in the middle of the day to play.  Problem solved.

The dog is going to keep peeing in the same spot because he smells his scent there, as PP said.  It's horrible that your FI let it get that bad, but seriously, replace the floor.  In the time being, use something like Nature's Miracle and put puppy pads down.

Take the dog out any time it shows ANY sign of wanting to go out.  A bark or just walking PAST the door.  Learn how often he NEEDS to go out.  If it's once every 5 hours, take it out once every 4, just in case.  Dogs need consistency.  While you're outside.  Play with the dog!  If you let it use it's energy outside with you, it won't be destructive inside.

Finally, I agree with PP warning you not to have kids w/your FI if you can't even manage a dog w/your FI.  Are you going to change a diaper multiple times a day when you don't even let the dog out often enough?  Kids break things too.  And kids aren't nearly as cute a dogs are.  (with the exception of Tide's.  Tide, if you read this, your little pumpkin is so adoarble!)

tidetravel

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[QUOTE]If your dog has too much energy, he should be taken out to play more, not left home alone all day.  When the semester started and I was gone for more than a couple of hours at a time, our dog started chewing.  Now I come home in the middle of the day to play.  Problem solved. The dog is going to keep peeing in the same spot because he smells his scent there, as PP said.  It's horrible that your FI let it get that bad, but seriously, replace the floor.  In the time being, use something like Nature's Miracle and put puppy pads down. Take the dog out any time it shows ANY sign of wanting to go out.  A bark or just walking PAST the door.  Learn how often he NEEDS to go out.  If it's once every 5 hours, take it out once every 4, just in case.  Dogs need consistency.  While you're outside.  Play with the dog!  If you let it use it's energy outside with you, it won't be destructive inside. Finally, I agree with PP warning you not to have kids w/your FI if you can't even manage a dog w/your FI.  Are you going to change a diaper multiple times a day when you don't even let the dog out often enough?  Kids break things too.  And kids aren't nearly as cute a dogs are.  <strong>(with the exception of Tide's.  Tide, if you read this, your little pumpkin is so adoarble!)</strong>
Posted by jenn.daniel[/QUOTE]
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Thank you, JennD!

Tula214

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[QUOTE]If you cat is peeing outside of the littler box, there is an issue - whether behavioral or physical.  I have one who does - it is a behavioral reaction to another over-dominant male in the house.  I am working on it, but it takes time.  Basically, I have to separate them. A 6 month old kitten is not too old to retrain.  If he is urinating in the same place all the time, it is because he still smells the urine there.  Since you've done research, I assume you already know this. I'm guessing since you have 'given up' you have returned him to wherever you adopted him from as most places where you can adopt animals from have this stipulation in the contract you sign.
Posted by kellyjellybelly[/QUOTE]


Just wanted to add that when I wrote "I could kill him" on my post... it was a figure of speech. I have problems killing the stinkbugs and centipedes I sometimes find.

Also, I read this post maybe half an hour after I was shouting to FI that I can't take this cat peeing everywhere. The stress was fresh in my mind. I keep him in the bathroom with food and water (and his box of course) when I'm not home, or sleeping. I'm torn. I love Mac, but I can't afford to lose my $1,800 security deposit when I move out.

abgpal11

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: It stinks in here and I need to let this out : Just wanted to add that when I wrote "I could kill him" on my post... it was a figure of speech. I have problems killing the stinkbugs and centipedes I sometimes find. Also, I read this post maybe half an hour after I was shouting to FI that I can't take this cat peeing everywhere. The stress was fresh in my mind. I keep him in the bathroom with food and water (and his box of course) when I'm not home, or sleeping. I'm torn. I love Mac, but I can't afford to lose my $1,800 security deposit when I move out.
Posted by Tula214[/QUOTE]


I have a few suggestions that may help (I haven't read all the comments so something might be a repeat)

Have your floors professionally cleaned.  While it's true that a lot of store-bought cleaners can do wonders when getting urine smells/stains out, it might be possible that there's enough ammonia left that your cat can still smell it.  It's also a lot less expensive than forfeiting your security deposit.  (My cat peed in my room - turns out she needed prescription food for her kidneys - but even after being on the prescription food she still peed in that same spot until I had the carpets cleaned professionally).

Have you tried using a different kind of litter in your litter box?  I once bought those pine chip things that are supposed to dissolve when a cat pees on them.  My cat hated it so much!  She would pee in the litter box, but she wouldn't poop in it.  I switched back to regular litter and she was back to normal.  My friend's cat also refuses to pee in the litter box if my friend buys a different brand of litter.  There are so many different kinds of litter that are made of so many different things, maybe it's possible that your cat doesn't like what you're using.

Have you tried putting the litter box in a different location?  While they say once the cat knows where it is, you should leave it there, maybe it's possible the cat doesn't like where it is right now.  I have another friend with a cat that will hold her pee unless the litter box is in a certain spot.  Perhaps you could go to walmart or somewhere that you could get little plastic bins pretty cheap.  Throw a liner on them and put some litter in there, and set a few in various locations of your house.  Maybe the cat will prefer one.  (It would suck if it's in the middle of the living room or something, but that's still better than pee on the floor!).  Also, cats like privacy.  Is the litter box in a place where it has privacy?  I live in an apartment and I took the door down off of a coat closet so I could put the litter box in there.  I put up a curtain over the door so you can't see the litter box and the cat can walk in and out easily.  I pull the curtain back to clean the litter box and sometimes I'll forget to put it back down.  My cat will hold it until I put the curtain back down. 

Bottom line - cats are super picky and I know it's stressful.  It's definitely no fun smelling cat urine!  But maybe a few changes could help.  Good luck!

[Edited to fix spelling errors]

waltzingmatilda13

Oh my effing goodness. This whole tread makes me so angry. OP, you obviously don't care about trying to train your dog, because you're too busy bitching about how it can't be trained and you don't want to clean and blah blah blah.

My dog made me so angry when we were trying to potty train him, but I certainly never wished death on him. And it took about 9 months to get him completely trained and now he is an angel and on a set schedule. What I don't think you understand is that dogs thrive on routine. It's your and your FI's own damn fault if the dog is peeing, because he probably doesn't even know what he is doing and surely doesn't understand that he has done something wrong. I have the feeling that you guys are letting him pee then yelling at him about it and shoving his nose in it. This is only going to make it worse, because all the dog know is "When I pee here, I get attention! And attention is a good thing!"

And I'll refrain from everything else I want to say about this because I really don't want to be banned. But you're an awful person and I hope your conspicuous absence here means you're not coming back, because I have a whole new opinion of you.

kira&jake

OP, you are a terrible person and so is your FI. It's a wonder you found each other.

ReneeJacob

I feel really bad for the dog. Seriously, find it another home. And you're not an "animal lover".

ReneeJacob

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[QUOTE]OP, you are a terrible person and so is your FI. It's a wonder you found each other.
Posted by kira&jake[/QUOTE]

Oh we have dog twins! Except mine only has 3 legs :)

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Jelenny

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[QUOTE]I want to kill FI's dog. Background:  dog was rescued from pound - was going to be put down - went though 8 different homes and no one would take it.  He rescued it when he was still single.  He babied it, never trained it, and now I'm stuck with it. Now:  Dog pees in the house all the time.  It's bad enough I inherited FI's house - which was a horrible bachelor pad of a mess; but this dog just won't stop peeing in the house no matter what method we try. This dog has peed in the same exact spot in the hallway on the hardwood floors for about 2 weeks.  The same upstairs in my office on the rug.  I can't get the smell out!  The wood in the hall has started to buckle (not like it's a nice floor, it's been here since the house was built in the 50s and needs to go anyway). I tried to hammer the buckle down - and this horrid smell comes out.  So I rip up the hardwood floor - everything  is rotten underneath.  It smells of ammonia and urine so bad in this house right now.  The base floor is even saturated through so that I can see it from the basement. FI ignores these problems - like he has for the 6 years he's owned this god damn dog.  I get left with the cleaning and problem solving because I'm the only one who cares about the smell and the mess.  FI would live in dog feces if he could.  It's a problem - so he just ignores it like it will go away. I want to kill this dog.  It is currently in the back yard, alone, which it can't be because it jumps fences and runs away.  I am seriously hoping that happens.  I can't stand all of the pee, the couches are all ripped apart, it sleeps in my bed and rips apart my pillows and breaks anything nice I buy.  I hate it.
Posted by M&R7111[/QUOTE]

training classes will help

for the smell wash with 50/50 white vinegar and water it neutralizes and prevents them from remarking or resoaking the area

BELLY BAND not the invite type.  You can buy them at Petsmart for about $20 they fit around the penis of the dog line with a panty liner.  Dogs don't like wetting themselves so quickly they learn not to do that.  With new male fosters they get banded so they aren't marking territory in my house.  Take out the panty liner if they do, put in a new one and keep it on inside.

Jelenny

I should add that you are upset - understandible however, with the dog's track record he could be feeding off of that.

I currently have a dog that was beaten in my house.  She is going to the bathroom in my house because she does it in secret - she is still learning to trust, but if he is afraid of you for whatever reason he will potty in the house.

MrsonMay7th2011

Usually I just lurk, but I saw your post and I had to throw in my two cents....

You are a disgusting excuse for a human being and I hope that you do everyone a favor and decide NEVER EVER EVER to have children.

 

People like you – those with no love, compassion, or understanding make me want to throw up

 

You are a perfect example of what is wrong with this world.

 

If both of you would actually take the time to work with your dog instead of blaming him for his mistakes and treating him like he is worthless then you might be able to make this situation better.  It requires patience and commitment – it sounds like you are capable of neither one of those things.

AutumnFair

OPing, you and your FI have a hell of a lot of growing up to do because if you two can't take care of a dog then you DEFINITELY do not need to be thinking about having kids. Seriously this is NOT the dog's fault this is your FI and yourself for not taking the time and effort to train this dog. A dog is 100+ times easier to take care of then a child and if you two can't unite and put effort into a simple thing like training him then how in the heck do you expect to discipline your children. Is it still Halloween? Because this thread just scares me. 

M&R7111

The dog has been around for 6 years.  It is not new, it is not a puppy.  It has been house trained.  Since it's adoption by FI it has been in training - many many times. I'm assuming you all think I'm getting this upset over a few carpet stains and a few accidents - but this whole situation is much worse than that.  It's more than just pee.

All of your suggestions on what to do with this situation - I've tried those.  Training, professional training (which we can't afford anymore since FI lost his job), shock collars (which has helped a bit), the enzymes to get rid of odor, training pads, checked for infections, crates.  Oh man, about the crates - he tries so hard to get out that he has caused major injury to himself - had his head stuck between the bars with blood everywhere.  It's horrifying.  So if we crate him, he's not destructive, but I'm afraid he'll really hurt himself so he's loose during the day.  But then he's a mess. 

But - for MONTHS he's fine.

Besides getting rid of the dog, I don't know what else to do.  And, may I add - the dog was due to be put down the week FI adopted him - FI was the last person to take it - it's been adopted and given back MANY times; 8 different adoptions.  So I'm pretty sure if we get rid of it the same thing would happen.

So far it has:
-put it's head through windows trying to get at a squirrel - broken glass windows - we had to replace 3 so far
-destroyed 3 couches
-it was housebroken - but there are some months where it is "not" - I have had to literally saw out the floor and lay new plywood this weekend because the rotting wood was so bad.
-gone through 3 crates - we gave up on the crate training because he is going to really hurt himself
-broken through many collars when we take it for a walk - jumps neighbor fences when he gets out and attacks their dogs - and we've tried different collars and harnesses. 

kennels won't take it, and no one (friends or family) will take care of it so we can't travel anywhere more than 12 hours.  What we are going to do for our wedding is beyond us.

People have stopped coming over because of it and roommates (who provide us with income to pay the bills) have moved out over the dog.  For 6 years ... 6 years of training ... and 3 years with me trying haven't changed a thing.  Hundreds of dollars in professional training.  There was a reason why it was in 8 different homes - and the people gave the dog back every time.

I did not choose to get this dog - I have to live with it.
I don't want to live with it.  And I have every right to not want to live with this dog.  I have every right to say "I can't wait for this dog to die".

I won't ever hurt it, I have never abused it, in fact, I've taken the training with this dog WAY beyond what FI has.  The dog loves me and I treat it kindly.  I take it to the vet and training classes - but will I be sad when it finally dies? nope.  Does the dog know I feel this way? No.  That doesn't make me a bad person - I just want my life back and i don't care any more for this dog as I would a pet hamster. 

So - just because you kids out there find it awesome to have a cute widdle puppy tail dog I do not.  Dogs are not kids.  They are animals. Many of you see you animals as kids - which is fine.  I do not - which is also fine.  Doesn't make me a monster. 

I understand that there are people who take on the challenge of having an emotionally damaged animal - I do not wish to have that responsibility.  Now a kid - that is a different matter.  I just can't get emotionally attached to a pet - nor will I ever compare it to having a kid.  I've helped raised many children in my family being the oldest of 14 cousins - and two are Downs.  I get how stressful kids can be - but when I have kids they will be my babies - not my pets.  If any animal threatens the health or well being of my kids, it's gone. 

So I get how you animal lovers out there are very quick to assume I'm the most miserable person in the world because I don't love this dog - but honestly people - I've taken all I can with this animal that I do not want - that I've tried to train for the past 3 years.

So - I'm fed up and really depressed that I may have up to 10 more years of this nonsense. 

So - yes, I can't wait for the dog to die.  GASP  I must be along the same ranks as Hilter, hu?

Glad I could provide you all with some entertainment for the past three days.

tidetravel

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_stinks-here-need-let-this-out?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:e68b0e74-2dfe-4d0b-b4cd-7c50270225e0Post:f37bc214-c2ce-4a42-92e3-a3443144a402">Re: It stinks in here and I need to let this out</a>:
[QUOTE]The dog has been around for 6 years.  It is not new, it is not a puppy.  It has been house trained.  Since it's adoption by FI it has been in training - many many times. I'm assuming you all think I'm getting this upset over a few carpet stains and a few accidents - but this whole situation is much worse than that.  It's more than just pee. All of your suggestions on what to do with this situation - I've tried those.  Training, professional training (which we can't afford anymore since FI lost his job), shock collars (which has helped a bit), the enzymes to get rid of odor, training pads, checked for infections, crates.  Oh man, about the crates - he tries so hard to get out that he has caused major injury to himself - had his head stuck between the bars with blood everywhere.  It's horrifying.  So if we crate him, he's not destructive, but I'm afraid he'll really hurt himself so he's loose during the day.  But then he's a mess.  But - for MONTHS he's fine. Besides getting rid of the dog, I don't know what else to do.  And, may I add - the dog was due to be put down the week FI adopted him - FI was the last person to take it - it's been adopted and given back MANY times; 8 different adoptions.  So I'm pretty sure if we get rid of it the same thing would happen. So far it has: -put it's head through windows trying to get at a squirrel - broken glass windows - we had to replace 3 so far -destroyed 3 couches -it was housebroken - but there are some months where it is "not" - I have had to literally saw out the floor and lay new plywood this weekend because the rotting wood was so bad. -gone through 3 crates - we gave up on the crate training because he is going to really hurt himself -broken through many collars when we take it for a walk - jumps neighbor fences when he gets out and attacks their dogs - and we've tried different collars and harnesses.  kennels won't take it, and no one (friends or family) will take care of it so we can't travel anywhere more than 12 hours.  What we are going to do for our wedding is beyond us. People have stopped coming over because of it and roommates (who provide us with income to pay the bills) have moved out over the dog.  For 6 years ... 6 years of training ... and 3 years with me trying haven't changed a thing.  Hundreds of dollars in professional training.  There was a reason why it was in 8 different homes - and the people gave the dog back every time. I did not choose to get this dog - I have to live with it. I don't want to live with it.  And I have every right to not want to live with this dog.  I have every right to say "I can't wait for this dog to die". I won't ever hurt it, I have never abused it, in fact, I've taken the training with this dog WAY beyond what FI has.  The dog loves me and I treat it kindly.  I take it to the vet and training classes - but will I be sad when it finally dies? nope.  Does the dog know I feel this way? No.  That doesn't make me a bad person - I just want my life back and i don't care any more for this dog as I would a pet hamster.  So - just because you kids out there find it awesome to have a cute widdle puppy tail dog I do not.  Dogs are not kids.  They are animals. Many of you see you animals as kids - which is fine.  I do not - which is also fine.  Doesn't make me a monster.  I understand that there are people who take on the challenge of having an emotionally damaged animal - I do not wish to have that responsibility.  Now a kid - that is a different matter.  I just can't get emotionally attached to a pet - nor will I ever compare it to having a kid.  I've helped raised many children in my family being the oldest of 14 cousins - and two are Downs.  I get how stressful kids can be - but when I have kids they will be my babies - not my pets.  If any animal threatens the health or well being of my kids, it's gone.  So I get how you animal lovers out there are very quick to assume I'm the most miserable person in the world because I don't love this dog - but honestly people - I've taken all I can with this animal that I do not want - that I've tried to train for the past 3 years. So - I'm fed up and really depressed that I may have up to 10 more years of this nonsense.  So - yes, I can't wait for the dog to die.  GASP  I must be along the same ranks as Hilter, hu? Glad I could provide you all with some entertainment for the past three days.
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You don't have a dog problem.  You have a FI problem.  I suggest counseling before you decide to procreate.

M&R7111

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_stinks-here-need-let-this-out?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:e68b0e74-2dfe-4d0b-b4cd-7c50270225e0Post:274038ae-c86f-4569-b463-9aacfc96281d">Re: It stinks in here and I need to let this out</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: It stinks in here and I need to let this out : You don't have a dog problem.  You have a FI problem.  I suggest counseling before you decide to procreate.
Posted by tidetravel[/QUOTE]

Haha, yeah, OK - I love how counseling is the solution to everything.

My FI was a dumbass for getting himself into this  issue by adopting a severely emotionally damaged dog w/o understand it won't be like the normal dog pet's he's grown up with.

I don't need a therapist to work this out. That is a bit much. I just have to put up with the dog.