Giving up a dog.

KatWAG

I follow Chelsea Handler on facebook. And I really hope this is a joke but her status yesterday was "This dog looks cute, but is not. I'm turning him over to my cousin. I can't take it anymore." She has an entire staff and plenty of money to help her train her pup. I just dont get some people.

Its a berneise mountain dog.

LincolnElizabethH

It's disgusting that people can treat animals like a piece of garbage. It's a very unfair world

courtski2004

Better that she is able to recognize that she isn't able to properly care for the dog and give it to someone who can than take it to a shelter where it could potentially be euthanized.

My husband gave me a basset hound puppy as my wedding 'gift'. He never grew up with pets and hadn't ever owned a dog. He wasn't able to handle the responsibility and the changes that came with owning a dog. While I was heartbroken, I knew that it would be best to find her a good, loving home. We did, and now she has a yard and young girls to play with, with parents who can care for her the way she deserves. It doesn't make my H less of a person for not being able to adjust to the needs of the puppy. We had the means to have her trained, etc. but in the long run, he just knew that it wasn't an adjustment that he was able to make. I do wish he would have considered that before getting her, but it is what it is.

QueerFemme

I wish people would think before they get pets. I also wish people would think before they give up pets.  If people are going to dump a pet, and send them into an confusing situation, at least do it with love and care.  FIND the proper home for the dog, even if it means you are inconvenienced for a few weeks, or even a month or two, while you are searching for a proper home for the pet.  And being involved in the transition is a good thing as well.   

I've done rescue and foster care for dogs for years.... and anyone who says the dog isn't affected by being dumped at a shelter or, even in another loving home, is full of shitttt.   Dogs get scared in unfamiliar environments without their people. 

When you buy a pet, you have a responsibility to them.

QueerFemme

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Giving up a dog. : Whoa, tangent.  She said she was giving the dog to her cousin, not bringing it to a shelter. You girls need to chill out or do you flip your lid every time a comedian makes a joke?
Posted by LingerLonger1[/QUOTE]

yeah... it was a total tangent.  I wasn't specifically responding to Chelsea handler... I honestly have heard the name, but I don't even know who she is.   I was mostly just talking in general... cuz, it's irritates the shizzle out of me when I hear people giving up dogs...  especially because of a general lack of committment.  it doesn't take much effort to properly train a dog.

Yeah... it was a tangent.  I guess it's just because I've probably had 200 dogs in my house in the past 10-15 years off an on that other people "gave away" to a sister/mother/cousin/friend, and that friend didnt' want to deal with their untrained dog either.

KatWAG

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[QUOTE]First, I don't know what makes you think that Chelsea Handler is super rich or has a fully staffed home just because she is on TV. But unless something major has changed since April, you're wrong. <strong>Sure, she's better off than a majority of the posters here, but she isn't Julia Roberts for pete sake. </strong>Second, I am so tired of people on this board acting like giving an animal to someone who has more time and ability to care for it is equal to dumping it out on the side of the road or shooting it.<strong> You don't know you aren't a pet person until you have one,</strong> and much like having a kid, being overwhelmed doesn't mean you bought the dog on a whim and expected him to live on air and water. Different animals have different personalities as well as needs. So please take your nose out of the air before you trip over an Orca whale and end up getting sued for damages. ETA: personally, I agree with Linger that it's probably a joke, but either way you're overreacting.
Posted by StageManager14[/QUOTE]

wow. Someone has their panties is a twist.

To the first bolded part, She is ranked on the Forbes top 100 for top earning celebraties. She made 19 million last year. that qualifies as super rich to me. I am fairly confident she can offer a dog walker and food.

To the second bolded part, she already has a dog named Chunk. This Berneise is her second dog. So she knew exactly what she was getting into.

Below is a picture of chunk.

<img id="il_fi" style="padding-bottom:8px;padding-right:8px;padding-top:8px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_VOFTnw2clk0/TEnV2IBK5GI/AAAAAAAADJI/CGmf9noQZlo/s1600/Guiness-Chelsea.JPG" alt="" width="405" height="347" />

QueerFemme

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re:Giving up a dog. : .  <strong>Hell, my HERMIT CRABS have distinct personalities and I have to alter their care/schedules accordingly.
</strong>Posted by StageManager14[/QUOTE]

this was the smile of my day today...

gmcr78

Honestly, I have no issue with finding the right home for a pet if you know you can't provide the best environment.  I get really pissed at people who get pets on a whim without really thinking about how much goes into caring for it and then are surprised that there is actual work and time required, however I am glad when those people don't dump the animal at a shelter and actually find them the right home.
I got my dog that way-I'm his 3rd owner.  First owner bought him at a pet store, figured out they were allergic, sold him to Family 2.  Family 2 already had an older dog and 3 kids, long commutes, and busy schedules.  My little guy spent most of his first year in a crate.  Fortunately, Family 2 realized this was not the right enviroment for him, and unlike their older dog, he required more attention, so they sought a new home for him.  I got an email forward and that's how he ended up with me, in his forever home.  They loved him, but knew he needed someone with more time and attention and I'm glad they recognized that. 
I'd be more angry at someone dumping their pet off at the shelter, or leaving them out on the street.

QueerFemme

omg.  that is awesome !!!

QueerFemme

I have had a craptastic day at work... I may have to work tomorrow... even though I have scheduled the next two days off for MONTHS...   and I will now have to cancel a shitload of appointments and try to squeeze everything in on Friday...  

but, those crabbies made me smile anyway. 

PrincessJas

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[QUOTE]<strong>People like that shouldn't have kids, either.</strong>
Posted by RetreadBride[/QUOTE]

<div>Ummm, wow.  So, because my boyfriend and I are talking about re-homing our dog because she is child aggressive and we plan on having children, we shouldn't actually have children?</div><div>
</div><div>It's ironic this post came up today, because we had another close call with our dog and a child just about an hour ago, which brought the problem into the forefront of our thoughts.  Both of us have grown up with dogs, probably about 10 between the two of us, but the dog we adopted has some serious psychological issues unlike anything either of us has been before.  She was a rescued stray and lived in the shelter, then a family's home, and then her foster home - she has gone through so many people's care that we don't even know where to begin trying to understand her.  Her first family said they returned her because a tick they found on her freaked out their young daughter - but I bet they got our baby home and realized she couldn't be around a child.  Her foster was watching <em>5 other dogs</em> at the time, and kept our baby in a crate the entire time she was in her care.  As a result, the foster must not have known anything about her personality - either that or she outright lied, because everything she told us about the dog was 180 degrees from the truth of what we ended up with.  This is also the woman who didn't obtain adequate vet records and so we also had to re-vaccinate the dog for everything she was guaranteed to come vaccinated against...what did I pay a $200 adoption fee for?  I could have bought a breeder dog without an inherited history for that, but that's beside the point (not really, I'm still bitter almost  a year later)...</div><div>
</div><div>We are doing everything we can, but we don't have the means for out-of-home training, and we don't have the time or experience to deal with really severe issues.  We love her and have beautiful moments with her every day, but then something like this afternoon happens and it reminds us how precarious our position with her is, and how if we don't find a means of making her understand that she can't act out against children for absolutely no reason, we're either going to have to rehome her or, in the worse-case scenario, put her down.</div>

J&K10910

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[QUOTE]People like that shouldn't have kids, either.
Posted by RetreadBride[/QUOTE]

Huh, I remember when you actually used to give decent advice, instead of just riding into threads on your high horse making comments like this.

Or maybe you're a comedian too.

QueerFemme

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Giving up a dog. : Ummm, wow.  So, because my boyfriend and I are talking about re-homing our dog because she is child aggressive and we plan on having children, we shouldn't actually have children? It's ironic this post came up today, because we had another close call with our dog and a child just about an hour ago, which brought the problem into the forefront of our thoughts.  Both of us have grown up with dogs, probably about 10 between the two of us, but the dog we adopted has some serious psychological issues unlike anything either of us has been before.  She was a rescued stray and lived in the shelter, then a family's home, and then her foster home - she has gone through so many people's care that we don't even know where to begin trying to understand her.  Her first family said they returned her because a tick they found on her freaked out their young daughter - but I bet they got our baby home and realized she couldn't be around a child.  Her foster was watching 5 other dogs  at the time, and kept our baby in a crate the entire time she was in her care.  As a result, the foster must not have known anything about her personality - either that or she outright lied, because everything she told us about the dog was 180 degrees from the truth of what we ended up with.  This is also the woman who didn't obtain adequate vet records and so we also had to re-vaccinate the dog for everything she was guaranteed to come vaccinated against...what did I pay a $200 adoption fee for?  I could have bought a breeder dog without an inherited history for that, but that's beside the point (not really, I'm still bitter almost  a year later)... We are doing everything we can, but we don't have the means for out-of-home training, and we don't have the time or experience to deal with really severe issues.  We love her and have beautiful moments with her every day, but then something like this afternoon happens and it reminds us how precarious our position with her is, and how if we don't find a means of making her understand that she can't act out against children for absolutely no reason, we're either going to have to rehome her or, in the worse-case scenario, put her down.
Posted by PrincessJas[/QUOTE]


I'm sorry you are going through this... I've housed dozens of aggressive dogs. Kid aggressive, dog or cat aggressive... it IS a huge pain in the ass and a LOT of work, but it can be overcome.

Have you looked into talking to the shelter or a local rescue?  Almost every major shelter has training programs that are reduced fee to ease aggression.  It does take a committment on your part... and it sounds like you have been working with her... just maybe not in the right ways.

I know not every dog is a fit for every family... trust me, I get it.  I just don't know how you go from calling her your baby, to deciding to give her away/rehoming her without doing consulting a professional of some sort. 

Keep looking.  If you are committed to her, tell me what city you are in, and I can see if I can find you some resources.  Of course, probably not until next week, cuz, I'm getting married in 2 days.

PrincessJas

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Giving up a dog. : I'm sorry you are going through this... I've housed dozens of aggressive dogs. Kid aggressive, dog or cat aggressive... it IS a huge pain in the ass and a LOT of work, but it can be overcome. Have you looked into talking to the shelter or a local rescue?  <strong>Almost every major shelter has training programs that are reduced fee to ease aggression.</strong>  It does take a committment on your part... and it sounds like you have been working with her... just maybe not in the right ways. I know not every dog is a fit for every family... trust me, I get it.<strong>  I just don't know how you go from calling her your baby, to deciding to give her away/rehoming her without doing consulting a professional of some sort</strong>.  Keep looking.  If you are committed to her, tell me what city you are in, and I can see if I can find you some resources.  Of course, probably not until next week, cuz, I'm getting married in 2 days.
Posted by cmgilpin[/QUOTE]

<div>This is a good idea - I hadn't considered looking into low-cost training, even though we use the city-sponsored clinic for her vaccinations.  Don't get the impression I'm giving up on this dog yet!  Re-homing her is the last thing I want to do - I promised to take care of her when I adopted her, and I'm going to do my best to fulfill that.  I have 3-4 years before we have to make a decision and act on it, and she's still only 2 years old - my sister has a dog aggressive shepherd who has mellowed out a lot, so I have high hopes that over the next 3 years we will be able to work with her and a trainer, find a solution, and that she will also calm down.  I'm in Austin, TX - if you know of any program targeted towards aggression, it would be an amazing help.</div><div>
</div><div>Congratulations on your wedding!   Have a beautiful, fun day!</div>

balletdawn

We had a dog for a month that peed every time H pet him, snapped at H, pooped on H's side of the bed repeatedly, ate H's shoes & clearly just had it out for him. I've had my other dog for 13 years and worked through all kinds of issues with her and was willing to do the same with this dog-whatever it took. Unfortunately, H was not in for the long haul. Luckily, one of the girls at the adoption agency missed him so much she ended up adopting him. He goes to work with her every day and I get to see him a lot. He's so much better off with someone who has lots of time to spend with him every day.

It was a learning experience. I know I made a mistake by adopting a young dog and I know now that my life can't handle that kind of addition. It would have been great if I figured that out in advance, but I didn't. We adopted another older dog (both of our girls are almost 14 y.o.) and have had her for 4 years now. She is a perfect fit and is so grateful to have a forever home.

I made a mistake, can admit it, and learned from it. But saying that because of this, I'm a terrible person and/or shouldn't raise children, is pure B.S. I have 4 rescued animals currently riding out their remaining years in style. My daughter is 18, gorgeous, smart, and very accomplished. I never forgot to feed her or anything or contemplated giving her away to strangers.

QueerFemme

In Response to Re:Giving up a dog.:[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Giving up a dog.:In Response to Re: Giving up a dog. : I'm sorry you are going through this... I've housed dozens of aggressive dogs. Kid aggressive, dog or cat aggressive... it IS a huge pain in the ass and a LOT of work, but it can be overcome. Have you looked into talking to the shelter or a local rescue?nbsp; Almost everynbsp;major shelter has training programs that are reduced fee to ease aggression.nbsp; It does take a committment on your part... and it sounds like you have been working with her... just maybe not in the right ways. I know not every dog is a fit for every family... trust me, I get it.nbsp; I just don't know how you go from calling her your baby, to deciding to give her away/rehoming her without doing consulting a professional of some sort.nbsp; Keep looking.nbsp; If you are committed to her, tell me what city you are in, and I can see if I can find you some resources.nbsp; Of course, probably not until next week, cuz, I'm getting married in 2 days.Posted by cmgilpinI'm not so sure you do.
Posted by LingerLonger1[/QUOTE]



I do actually. Like I said. Not every pet can fit in every household. I just think that before someone gives up a dog, they should exhaust their resources to try to fix the problem. And if they still can't fix it, they should rehome the pet themselves and not dump it at a shelter with a magic fairy princess dream that the dog will make it out of the shelter alive. We all know, most of them don't. But everyone who I have seen drop a pet off at the shelter says "oh. Well my dog/cat is purebred/sweet/tame/pretty/etc. He will get adopted for sure. "

Princess. Ill look into some services in austin next week and send you a message. :

PrincessJas

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[QUOTE]What is with Chit Chat and anti-dog posts?
Posted by cfaszews25[/QUOTE]

<div>What part of this thread is anti-dog?</div>

SJM7538

my pet peeve....

When people have animals and then have children  and then all of a sudden don't have time for their pets or don't care about them anymore. I have several friends who have done this in the past few months and are now trying to get rid of their dogs.  I love my friends dearly but I can't talk about this subject with them because it gets me so upset and peeved.

"I can't deal with the fur and it being all over the babies stuff"
"I don't have time"
"The dog isn't well trained enough"

They knew they wanted to start families when they adopted these pets.
You knew the dog had fur and sheds when you adopted it.
The reason the dog isn't trained is because you didn't put the time in effort into training it. And you're telling me you don't have time to fill your dogs food dish and open the door to let it outside to go to the bathroom? 

These excuses just don't fly with me. When you adopt a dog it's a 10-15 year committment. Not an "until I have kids and don't have time" committment.

Sorry I just totally ranted but I had to get it out. The only person that I ever tell this too is my fiance and he can only hear it so much.

J&K10910

Yup, definitely too big for my tiny little brain. 

Except that I never said I didn't get it.  I said you used to give decent advice but now all you seem to have to contribute are supercilious judgments.  But thanks for breaking it down for me.  I totally take it all back.

J&K10910

Oh Stage, you clearly missed her point because of the huge words she used like "celebrity" and "responsibility."

I know your tiny little dinosaur brain can't wrap around words with  more than two syllables (sorry, I don't have a shorter word for syllables, let me know if you need an explanation).

J&K10910

Yes, though I prefer the soothing crashing of cymbals.